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How Can The U.S.A. Reduse Mass Shootings?

Sister said:
If America wants to reduce mass killings, America needs to ask what truly stops temptation. Why does it happen? What is the common factor of the people doing this.
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To be honest this just sounds like more denial. More rationalisation. Making excuses. America will never admit they have a gun problem. They are gun addicts in denial.
And the mass shootings will continue. And there will be more pointing of fingers at maniacal mentally ill.
America , look in the mirror. Even if you don't like what you see.
 
humble soul said:
So how do you feel walking down the street knowing that everyone is packing a gun?
Hey that guy looked at me sideways......
Sorry kiwi. I don't want to live in the wild west .
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In the wild west where there was open carry there was also less crime.

2019 Darwin (Australia) mass shooting: Four men killed, one woman injured​


Since the 1997 passage of strict gun control laws in 1997, there have been 3 mass shootings from 1997 to 2019.
The myth that says taking guns from the law abiding insured no gun crime is just that. A myth.

In Scotland where there are strict gun control laws the weapon of choice for criminals is the knife.
 
humble soul said:
I feel protected in Australia. Because there are strict gun laws.
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A couple of years ago just before 19 come along i was travelling with work and i went to victoria and i had never seen such a presence. I was in a bar/restaurant very peaceful and relaxing everyone enjoying there daily lives and suddenly like 10 armed cops all geared up like they are just walked in and in miltary style order just walked around and then walked out. Was there no crime going on in the city or anything to investigate they had so much spare time that mulitple armed law enforcefment officers could just walk into a peaceful place and do a round then just walk out?. I mean what on earth is that. And it was not a one off. It was regular.
 
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Interesting word "myth" too. Did you know much of the Bible is myth?
People in those days loved stories. Whether they were real events didn't seem to matter. The spiritual truth was all that mattered. What can I learn from this story about my own life?
So we can say the Bible is a sacred book full of myth with a few facts thrown in here and there
 
humble soul said:
You have never heard of gun accidents?
That's a big statement sir. And I suspect it is invalid.
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Have you not heard of vehicular manslaughter? How about driving while drunk? A large majority of vehicle deaths involve someone driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Driving a vehicle isn't a right, it is a privilege and yet our society accepts that risk. Why is that?
 
The problem is, attacking gun owners and guns is not a solution. It's a band aid. That's why we don't outlaw motor vehicles. That too would be a band aid and not a solution. The solution to a problem has to be addressed at the source, not the end result.

Isn't that what God did? Think about it. God didn't teach follow the rules, he taught repentance or changing one's heart and attitude. That's what has to happen in our world. A revival.
 
Here come the excuses and the fake analogies and skewed rationalisations.
Just admit your main addiction. Guns are your false gods. You love your toys more than each other.
You worship guns more than JC. Because you will say anything. Absolutely anything to protect your treasure.
Comparing guns to fertiliser is faulty thinking. It's irrational. I don't care what you say. Your arguments are inferior and weak. And you know it.
 
Chocolate Roadrunner said:
In the wild west where there was open carry there was also less crime.

2019 Darwin (Australia) mass shooting: Four men killed, one woman injured​


Since the 1997 passage of strict gun control laws in 1997, there have been 3 mass shootings from 1997 to 2019.
The myth that says taking guns from the law abiding insured no gun crime is just that. A myth.

In Scotland where there are strict gun control laws the weapon of choice for criminals is the knife.
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Are you joking? The "wild" West was just that ... virtually lawless. People killed people for little or no reason.
 
humble soul said:
Weak analogy. Next ....
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Or....perhaps your motor vehicle is your god? See, it works both ways. I have hammers of various sizes and weights, hand saws, power circular saws, axes, a chainsaw, etc. All of which are tools and all of which are potential weapons. My firearms are tools and yes they too can be potential weapons. All of them depend on my attitude, my heart, and how I utilize those tools. I can use them for evil or I can use them for good. In the end it is me that is responsible for what I choose to do and God holds me accountable.
 
kiwidan said:
Well everyone is a law abiding citizen untill the government tells them they are not. One day a law abding citizen can wake up the next day and are suddenly classed as a criminal.
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Criminal commit crimes. Nobody is classified as a criminal until the committed and are found guilty of a crime. Your statement has no basis in reality.
 
humble soul said:
To be honest this just sounds like more denial. More rationalisation. Making excuses. America will never admit they have a gun problem. They are gun addicts in denial.
And the mass shootings will continue. And there will be more pointing of fingers at maniacal mentally ill.
America , look in the mirror. Even if you don't like what you see.
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Idk about that. You said you were from Australia right? Here is the crime index as far as June 2021, Australia compared to the United States. Like a 4 percent difference overall. Seeing that the United States has way more population then Australia, I really do not think there is much a difference between guns and no guns. In fact, Russia allows guns with stricter gun control laws, which I am not against. I think that is wise, and their numbers are lower then both the United States and Australia according to this. To get rid of guns completely is unwise, because there will always be short tempers and sinful nature in this world.

Crime Comparison Between Australia And United States. Safety Comparison.

www.numbeo.com www.numbeo.com

Plus I am also reading from quite a few places that Australia has more guns then ever with the gun ban... Like one in seven people... They don't just go away. Homemade guns can be made... There is no limit to evil in the world....it is as good idea as socialism. It doesn't work in the end.
 
Sister said:
There is no limit to evil in the world....it is as good idea as socialism. It doesn't work in the end.
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I agree that socialism is a great idea in a utopian society but due to the greed of mankind it doesn't work in real life. Somebody always benefits off the labors of others.

Vietnam was a great example. After the US pulled out and North Vietnam took over "the Vietnamese government introduced a socialist, centrally planned economy in the south. (This system was already in place in the north.) In such economies, people are often discouraged or forbidden from owning private property. Instead, property is “collectively” owned and controlled by the government, which makes decisions about what to produce and how much to distribute to different groups.

About half of all rural families in the south were organized into agricultural collectives. These collectives put several families together into a single unit that was expected to combine what they produced and turn over any surplus (anything above what they needed for their basic and immediate consumption) to the government. The government distributed this surplus to people elsewhere in the country. In collectivized farming, people were rarely rewarded individually for their hard work. Thus, while collectives were supposed to make the rural economy more productive, they often had the opposite effect. Says Goscha: “collectivizing agriculture and setting uncompetitive prices … erased incentives for production in the countryside. Rather than producing more, Vietnamese peasants … simply cultivated enough land upon which to live rather than have to turn over any surplus to the state at fixed prices (i.e. at a loss).”24

With decreasing productivity, the economy contracted. By the late 1970s, Vietnam, once a major rice producer, was experiencing cases of famine or near famine. It was becoming clear that the socialist economic experiment in the south was failing.

Some peasants who were forced to join rural collectives resisted in ways that were quiet and indirect. They did this in order to avoid punishment, a tactic anthropologist James Scott calls “weapons of the weak.” This includes small but persistent actions or inactions by those who lack formal power to push back against those who have formal power. These “everyday forms of resistance” included, for example, not putting forth one’s full effort to produce for the collective in order to save time and energy to grow food for one’s own family. Another example was delaying delivery of grain or livestock to government authorities.25 These tactics became increasingly common, and by the early 1980s there was a noticeable “southern resistance” to collectivized agriculture.26 It should also be noted that peasants in the north were also using these resistance tactics, and many eventually withdrew from collectives."

Source: https://asiapacificcurriculum.ca/learning-module/vietnam-after-war
 
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