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He is humble.That is what I like to see for a Pastor teaching God's Word.I don't remember for sure but if my memory is accurate I think our pastor's salary is less than $30,000.00 and we recently celebrated his 30th years as our pastor. He doesn't want any more than what we pay him. His explanation is that he doesn't feel he needs any more than an entry level pastor would make so he's content with what we pay. At first one might think $30K is not much but when you factor in that he doesn't pay for his home, maintenance on his home, retirement, his own health insurance, and he gets a mileage allowance his income probably adds up to a pretty fair amount.
Never watched the show myself, but I think pastors that drive Bentlys and such are really a small minority and far from the norm. Considering what is required of the job, the education requirements most churches stipulate, and the amount of hours and such that is demanded, most pastors in the U.S are far underpaid. I agree 100% that for the average full time pastor, the congregation should pay him an amount that lets him live a similar lifestyle to what is average for that congregation. If they are a small or new congregation that can't afford to do that they really need to rely more on volunteers to fill in where possible and hire a part time pastor. This is done in a lot of rural communities all the time, and many of the jobs a pastor does can and maybe should be done by other congregation members anyway.Or even non-mega's. :shades Have you ever watched that show, Preachers of LA? One pastor in that reality series has numerous high end cars, including a Bentley. (Would Jesus drive a Bentley? I'd love to ask that pastor this.) They're not anywhere near to the capacity as Joel Osteen. Who is reported to not accept a salary, but what would be that income, is put back into the church.
While he survives himself and his family on his publications.
I think a pastor should certainly be in line with what his parishioners can afford so that he lives with them, not above them. While his private income, that what is like unto what Osteen accomplishes in publishing royalties, should be his or her own. Because the more one has the more they can do for those who have so very little.
I'd like to test drive one of those. For about a week.
I would too, they would probably have to kill me to get me out of it.Do his congregants drive one of those?
I'd like to test drive one of those. For about a week.
I wouldn't go that far. Considering the price tag on a 2015 Rolls could save, if one had the cash in hand, the lives of countless poor in and around the area where a pastor who could buy such a car lives.I would too, they would probably have to kill me to get me out of it.
I guess that is between that Pastor and God.
What's your point? Surely your not implying this is a typical pastor's car in the United States, are you? This picture wasn't even taken in the US. How do you even know this belongs to a pastor?
As with the car, what's your point?
I got it. I just don't think you are being realistic.The point is should a pastor be rich enough to purchase these things, I am surprised that you didn't get that.
Very well, I didn't know this. Please show me evidence of how many own these things then. Or show me what percentage of pastors worldwide own these things and paid for them from their salaries as a pastor. When you say "many of them" I'm expecting you to have some evidence available showing a pretty convincingly high number of them considering just how many pastors there are in the world.No bro I don't think you get it, because pastors own these things many of them own these things....