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minnesota said:
JoJo said:
I completely disagree. If I were a chatterbot and didn't exist in the real world, it would be impossible to have a real relationship with me. We couldn't talk on the telephone or meet in person. We would be limited to forum chatting. That is not a true relationship. You simply cannot have a love relationship with someone you don't 100% believe exists. You can play-act or fantasize, but you can't have a solid relationship.
This is called the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

JoJo said:
I just find it illogical.
Yes, as I expect. It is because your perspective makes certain assumptions which necessitate the conclusion. My perspective does not share some of these assumptions. Therefore, if you wish to criticize my perspective you must show those assumptions are valid and reasonable.

The central assumption deals with belief. Your perspective assumptions belief is necessarily binary. Why is belief necessarily binary?

I've never heard of the "No True Scotsman" and so therefore have no idea what you're talking about. Please don't elaborate, though, because I stand by what I said.

This isn't about my perspective or your perspective, or my framework or your framework, it is about a simple concept based on logic: It is impossible to have a true loving relationship with someone you don't 100% believe exists.

I've said all I had to say. I am not interested in debating with you further on this matter, minnesota. As was pointed out earlier, it would be impossible to "win an argument" with you, though I have no interest in winning any argument. I simply am saddened that a Christian would entertain doubts about his Lord and Savior. I pray your faith will increase and you will be able to enjoy a true solid and loving relationship with the Lord.

I'm outtie!
 
coelacanth said:
but I agree with him
Thanks.

2 Corinthians 6:14 said:
Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
However, you have just further condemned me. ;)
 
It has become apparent we have gotten as much as we can out of this. People are getting offended and instead of coming together, I see further division. This topic is closed. Anyone who wants to continue may appeal. :yes

Did you know there is a faith that is listed as a spiritual gift? 1 Cor 12:9
... and Paul speaks of a faith that can be increased? 2 Cor 10:15

...just something to think about.
 
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