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Hunting the Whore of Babylon

Vic C. said:
Vatican City, which hosts the Vatican, is much like Washington, D.C., USA; it's an enclave.
It's the smallest country in the world. Have you ever heard of an Italian horn? It's a little horn worn by Pagans.
 
mdo757 said:
interpreter said:
mdo757 said:
Are you making a joke?
I'm serious as a heart attack. There are many cities that sit on 7 hills, but only one that sits on 5 seas.
Your to literal. The sea/ocean/ waters are people and nations. The word sea being used is not literal, but a parable.
Moscow was also the ruler over many peoples and nations during the great tribulation (WW II, which lasted exactly 3 1/2 years). And Moscow was breifly alligned with the antichrist (Hitler). Hitler's Third Reich, (or Third Reign of Rome) is the third six of the 666 trilogy -- with the Rome of John's day being the first head # 6, the Second Reich being the 2nd six, and Hitler being the third six.
Russia was once a Christian nation that became a whore by embracing atheism.
 
interpreter said:
mdo757 said:
interpreter said:
I'm serious as a heart attack. There are many cities that sit on 7 hills, but only one that sits on 5 seas.
Your to literal. The sea/ocean/ waters are people and nations. The word sea being used is not literal, but a parable.
Moscow was also the ruler over many peoples and nations during the great tribulation (WW II, which lasted exactly 3 1/2 years). And Moscow was breifly alligned with the antichrist (Hitler). Hitler's Third Reich, (or Third Reign of Rome) is the third six of the 666 trilogy -- with the Rome of John's day being the first head # 6, the Second Reich being the 2nd six, and Hitler being the third six.
Russia was once a Christian nation that became a whore by embracing atheism.
You are speaking of three different nations, where as the bible is speaking of one nation. There is only the one "little horn" nation with other nations around it. This is what our bible says about seas / waters. Revelation 17:15
Then the angel said to me, "The waters/seas you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
 
Revelation 2:13
I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives.
When John wrote the book of Revelation Pergamum was part of the Roman impire. Pergamum (pûr'g?m?m), ancient city of NW Asia Minor, in Mysia (modern Turkey), in the fertile valley of the Caicus. It became important c.300 B.C., after the breakup of the Macedonian empire, when a Greek family (the Attalids) established a brilliant center of Hellenistic civilization. The kingdom achieved major importance under Attalus I (d. 197 B.C.), Eumenes II (d. 160 or 159), and Attalus II (d. 138). These kings followed a pro-Roman policy through fear of the imperialism of Philip V of Macedon and of Antiochus III of Syria. The independence of Pergamum ended dramatically when Attalus III (d.133) bequeathed the kingdom to the Roman people.
 
Joe67 said:
Who was present when Cain killed Abel?

That is the one for whom we are searching.

Joe
Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
Do you know a parable when you see one?
 
--Elijah here: It appears that you asked for my take on this.
The TRUE ANTICHRIST CULT must have complete authority!! Notice his DOCUMENTED work. "All dogmatic decrees of [the Pope], made with or without his general council, ARE INFALLIBLE ... Once made, no pope or council can reverse them ... This IS THE CATHOLIC PRINCIPLE, that the CHURCH CANNOT ERR IN FAITH." --The Catholic World, pgs. 422-423.

OK: That is the first [TOP] priority. 's'atan has himself in charge of a number one human man! See Gen. 4:7's start & Rev. 3:9's ending. This is & ever was satin's antichrist denomination. (and who took over when Christ left Israel of old? See Matt. 23:38 when they BECAME DESOLATE OF CHRIST)

Number two: A CULT ANTICHRIST must have a 'SECOND' book held in high esteem that is opposite to the Bible! In this time frame, It IS THE 'CATECHISM! It even openly changes the Commandments of God! [ANTICHRIST!] See 1 Jn. 2:4 & Isa. 8:20.

Number three: Surely it MUST HAVE A LARGE BROADWAY WORLDWIDE CULT MEMBERSHIP! See Matt. 7 & Rev. 17:5!! To have DAUGHTERS this denomination was here FIRST, huh? Again, the TRUE LEADER of even the Pope, was seen working before the flood in Cain! (Gen. 4:7) Notice whose his 'DESIRE' now was!
A denomination has always been found by satan to 'FORM-or have them become a FOLD' that would do this [FIRST CULT LEADER'S WORK]. See Rev. 2:5. (well, who would now take over!?)

Cain killed his brother. Cain was still a professor of worship! He brought an ANTICHRIST SACRIFICE! As does Rome in having Sun. for God's eternal Sabbath Day Covenant! (see Heb. 13:20) Rome, also is and was a MURDERER (from the beginning) as is DOCUMENTED in Fox Book of Martyr's. It states that is MIGHT EVEN BE A LOW ESTIMATE, OF UPWARD TO AN HUNDRED MILLION KILLED BY ROME, OF CHRISTIAN MARTYRS!!

Take note: This is satan's church! Look around you today! These LEADERS ARE [OPEN PARTAKERS] of ALL OF THIS EVIL! See Rev. 18:4! And in a quote that I posted a couple days ago about the Pope John Paul 11 suggesting that voodoo believers would not betray their traditional faith by 'converting to Christianity'. ('From the Los Angeles Times' 2/5/93)

CHRISTIANS?? Hardly can a person be [HONEST] calling an CULT ANTICHRIST denomination [CHRISTIAN!] And the Lord's CALL is for the [IGNORANT BABES IN CHRIST THAT HE HAS THERE, TO LEAVE]. Again SEE John 10:16!!

And NOW: We see satan still doing his evil work in suggesting that there is another antichrist?? Wow! what is new, God say's NOTHING!! See Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15. Yet, these ones ARE THE CULT LEADERS 'little' daughter's that are DOING the work of mommy. What is next?? Soon ex/Protestants will do the dirty work of having Caesar do what they can not do OPENLY. Kill their brothers!

Yet: ALL are missing the truth here! The Adventist denomination has gone the way of Israel of old before Christ comes the second time!! See Rev. 12:17!! They TOO have called the Great Whore & her Daughters Christian denominations! And they, as were Israel of old, to be JUDGED FIRST! See 1 Peter 4:17. ALL other's testing will be that of 666 & that is also just around the corner!
 
....and behold a great RED dragon (Rev 12:3), and his false prophet (Rev 16:13 - 19:20 - 20:10)

"And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet."

here 3 are "antichrist" - It's the counterfeit trinity of Satan, dad, son and spirit - yet there will be just 1 of them in the seat of receiving worship. The son.

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
Joe67 said:
Who was present when Cain killed Abel?

That is the one for whom we are searching.

Joe

It 'IS' there Joe! What spirit made Cain from past OBEDIENT to A MATURE KILLER! satan. :crying

[5] But unto Cain and to his offering he (Christ) had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

[6] And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

[7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

[8] And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up (satan's killing 'DESIRE') against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Who was in the Garden of Eden with Eve but satan. (Rev. 12 names!) Cain had never befor been signaled out as a mature sinner (James 1:15) & even here he was given this LAST FINAL MATURE DECISION to make. It is seen as a FATAL MATURE SIN AGAINST CHRIST IN PERSON!(Matt. 12:31-32) And Cain was satan's [FIRST] convert that led up to the reason for the the flood. But satan always had his church desired worship! and his final anti/Christ church to build up. Rome is just the VERY LAST of his bunch. Yet, REMEMBER that always yoked inside of these ones +, .. are Christ's few sincere ones that He is to reach! Rev. 18:4.

And as Saul, (Paul) we can [NEVER] read ones heart!!!
Nor do we TRY TO! OR FORCE WORSHIP!--Elijah
 
Vic C. said:
No, the "Jews" get blamed because the Bible points to them! They are the focus of much prophecy, but many people feel the need to interject extra Biblical sources that may compromise or contradict scripture altogether.

I know it's a quantum leap for many to accept this Biblical truth. It will cause you to reevaluate some or most of what you may believe about prophecy and end times.

Are you playing the devil's advocate? ;) That is a question. I can't get exactly where it is that you are standing? What we all need to realize is that this killing antichrist SATAN, WENT WAY WAY BACK BEFORE iSRAEL CAME ON THE SCENE [to Cain & Abel].

It seems that the modern ones use only from the pedigree of Israel on even to the point of the record of over the years as in modern times (?) of Fox Book Of Mytars which say that the 150 million Christian might be a low estimate from Acts on.

Whatever'??: Yet, there are numerous identifcational Truths recorded in Christ WORD alone!! (Not Jer. 17:5) :verysad Dan. 7:25 being a long thread full, huh?

By the way.. :wave !

---Elijah
 
I hope you guys know that Hebrew is a gendered language. Where it says "he" it should say "it" for the English language. [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth/waits at the door. And unto thee shall be his/it's desire, and/but thou shalt/should rule over him/it.
 
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