Husbands who fear their wives

[Jethro Bodine]

On our wedding night we had sex (if memory serves me 5 times2).

TMI

 

[Wrg1405]

Then you realized he couldn't have gotten that handsome all of a sudden and realized it was me.

To avoid future confusion I will be reverting back to my standard avatar soon.

Please do. I can normally tell who has posted by their avatar and when it's changed I gets confused. Mind you that's not difficult I'm easily confused.

 

[Wrg1405]

Which can not possibly be true since getting marriage is in no way shape or form a declaration of being a believer. It's a vow to be joined together in accordance with the male and femaleness God instituted. That's all.

If you are not a believer then it's irrelevant whether God instituted it or not. All you are doing is getting married under the institution of the government and its requirements to be known as husband and wife.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Please do. I can normally tell who has posted by their avatar and when it's changed I gets confused. Mind you that's not difficult I'm easily confused.

Here, this oughta get things heated up around here:

I am officially renouncing my prosperity gospel beliefs.

 

[Wrg1405]

TMI

Ok I've edited my post. I would not want to offend anyone and if you read it before my edit please accept my apologies.

So given the post I posted at what point were my wife and I in the eyes of God married. As believers.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

If you are not a believer then it's irrelevant whether God instituted it or not. All you are doing is getting married under the institution of the government and its requirements to be known as husband and wife.

But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.

 

[Wrg1405]

But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.

I'm not asking about adultery and I agree with what you are saying.

Just asking your thoughts when are a husband and wife considered as being married in the eyes of God. When vows are taken or when they become one flesh? Regardless of being believers or not.

 

[GodsGrace]

Which can not possibly be true since getting marriage is in no way shape or form a declaration of being a believer. It's a vow to be joined together in accordance with the male and femaleness God instituted. That's all.

Can't write now.
What is not true?
When taking a vow before God all stated must be true or the vow is not valid.

A marriage becomes a marriage when the priest or pastor declares it.

What God has joined together, let no man put assunder refers to both marriage AND the individual couple.
This is why divorce is not allowed, it would be man putting assunder.. Breaking what God has joined, breaking the oath.

Wondering
PS nice avatar.

 

[GodsGrace]

I'm not asking about adultery and I agree with what you are saying.

Just asking your thoughts when are a husband and wife considered as being married in the eyes of God. When vows are taken or when they become one flesh? Regardless of being believers or not.

You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness.
What if you could never consumate the marriage??
It's still a marriage.

 

[Wrg1405]

You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness.
What if you could never consumate the marriage??
It's still a marriage.

Ok I get what you are saying.

I do beleive that marriage occurrs when two people make a commitment, a commitment to leave and cleave with a view to spending the rest of their lives with each other, making a life long commitment.

Having sex does not constitute marriage.

As we know that Joseph did not sleep with Mary but took her as his wife.

Matthew 1:24-25

Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus.

However I can't understand where you are coming from "You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness"

So is God present regardless of whether being believers or not?

If the marriage vows are conducted with a disregard God (i.e a civil ceremony) and therefore to the couple taking those vows God does not exist, is he present as a witness? If a person doesn't want God in their lives does he say "Ok that's your choice and I will leave you with that choice?

People who are not believers can get marriage in church and make vows with disregard to God. Is God present as a witness?

If he is not then then are the people married?

 

[Wrg1405]

Here, this oughta get things heated up around here:

I am officially renouncing my prosperity gospel beliefs.

Quick change because I'm confusing you with you know who.

 

[GodsGrace]

Here, this oughta get things heated up around here:

I am officially renouncing my prosperity gospel beliefs.

You weren't a prosperity gospel believer.
What goes on?
What did I miss?
I always miss the important stuff...

 

[Barbarian]

Ask Lorena Bobbitt.

"Bobbitt." How apropos.

 

[Wrg1405]

You weren't a prosperity gospel believer.
What goes on?
What did I miss?
I always miss the important stuff...

He was. I wonder if he will renounce his OSAS belief

 

[GodsGrace]

He was. I wonder if he will renounce his OSAS belief

He already did.
I'm soooo confused.

But not about marriage.
Am home now.
Be here soon.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.

Hey, who's that in the picture?
And what did you do to Anton?
And why are you naked?
What am I missing here?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Reba did it.
Whatever happened to Anton, Reba did it.

 

[Wrg1405]

Sheesh

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Sheesh

Hey!
No swearing!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Quick change because I'm confusing you with you know who.

That's the point.
I'm having some fun at Mikey's expense.