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[__ Prayer __] I pray to recover

I'm 30. I have a diagnosis of Bipolar I w/psychotic features. My community has declared me "schizophrenic." The difference between my BP I and schizophrenia? Mainly the meds....I take stuff for mood on top of the (overpriced) antipsychotic. I receive disability, go to Liberty Online, and live with my (thankfully, comfortable) parents.

If you've read any of my many, many posts on my situation, you know the story...destroyed by shrinks, spent a long time being decidedly un-smart and obviously brain damaged, and I had physical health problems. All that has resolved now...and I'm only 2 years into being truly Born Again!

Its strange...at 23, I had a nervous breakdown. I guess since I was sickly and un-smart anyway, they figured hey, why not electroshock him back to the stone age? Yeah...7ish years later, I've recovered from "treatment..." and now I have to deal with the underlying issue, lol.

I think with psychiatric treatment, there's a balancing act: too many meds you hinder, rather than facilitate, genuine recovery (same goes for electroshock, obviously); too few, and the person can't recover, either. Throw in social class issues (read: lower and working class people don't receive the same level of treatment as middle and upper class folks) and such, and...well...I just didn't matter.

Now that my people have moved up the totem pole and they've decided to support and protect me, I get better treatment. People actually listen to what I say, its crazy. My shrink is sort of assinine, but...whatevs...most psychiatrists don't care for me. Actually, most mental health pros I've encountered haven't much cared for me.

Anyway, its like this....I'm smart for the first time in about 11 years. I'm physically healthy for the first time in about the same amount of time. "Everything you need for life and for godliness..." yes...that and then some, apparently. I think God has given me what I need to recover and pursue a life of my own, maybe somewhere away from here (here's hoping, lol).

I'm starting to realize that I don't deserve the grace shown me. I don't mean that in the false humility sort of way (I hope...), I just mean that I realize that God doesn't owe me or anybody anything. The amazing thing isn't that I went through it; the amazing thing is that I've been saved, set free, and now I have what I need to move forward.

So...yeah...bipolar I w/psychotic features or schizophrenia. I read an opinion piece by some shrink that said they're the same thing, just schizophrenia they use higher doses of antipsychotic and lots of antidepressants. In my "condition," apparently the approach is low-to-moderate doses of a couple different kinds of meds. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen the other to me, but the essay I read said there can be a huge difference. Oh, that and BP I isn't as stigmatized.

Anyway you look at it, moving forward won't be easy, but it has been and I pray will be rewarding. Mentally ill people these days apparently have to "know our place." I don't think its just the south, either. Its weird...we have TV ads for Abilify, Seroquel, all that, but when you're bona fide mentally ill, you're out of the picture. Done. Over. Society rejects you. That's it.

So, I don't know what happens from here on out. I'm doing well in school and I transferred in 70 credits, so I was a bit more than 1/2 there from the get go. I get along well with my parents. They love me, I love them. Thanks to disability, I'm not a huge burden on them, and my (like I said, overpriced) meds have a low co-pay.

Ugh. I want to recover, I want to have a life, I want...a lot of things. I don't know what's realistic and what's not. I was kind of hoping to do counseling because I'd be able to work without too much supervision, I know the mental health system, and I think I could do some good and also earn enough $$$ to live simply, on my own. But then I think about stigma against the mentally ill amongst counselors. Its like...I'd be crossing the line, you know? I might have to move to do it, if I end up getting the credentials.

But, yeah...I pray for recovery, whatever that looks like, whatever it "really" is. :)
 
Thanks Christ_empowered.
A very inspiring post.
In a way I can relate to your story. Please let me share two stories in my life with you.

About recovery, it is at that moment, regardless of how long or short it is, were you feel loving and loved from within.

My first glimpse of recovery was when I genuinely thanked a shop attendant for serving me. Suddenly I felt good, it was like, seeing for the first time, a prick-hole of light in a darkened room. That tiny beam of light was a realization of what recovery was like. It gave me hope. However, it only lasted a few seconds. When it vanished I was desperately trying to re-experience that moment of unconditional love. I walked around saying "thank you, thank you,..." in the hope of getting that light hole back into my heart. My wish/prayer was to be able to widen that hole so there will be no more darkness in my closed room/heart.

One day I was cycling with a friend, and expressed that I cannot race at 40 km/h (25 mph). He said, "sure you can, just follow me". He rode off and I was chasing after him, we soon were riding at 40 km/h. After half a minute of this I was exhausted and out of breadth, and quickly dropped done in speed. My friend said see, you did race at 40 kph, all you need to do now is to train and stretch that half minute to an hour or so. My friend pricked a hole in my darkroom of doubts.
 
Part of the beauty of the future is that the one single fact we each know for certain: our Lord loves us dearly and cherishes us!

Outside of that lone truth, we don't have a clue what's up next for us. Sure, we can make plans.... we can set short- and long-term goals. Still, we have no idea just what path our feet will be walking in future.

Life is an adventure which is led by our Lord!
 
Thanks Christ_empowered.
A very inspiring post.
In a way I can relate to your story. Please let me share two stories in my life with you.

About recovery, it is at that moment, regardless of how long or short it is, were you feel loving and loved from within.

My first glimpse of recovery was when I genuinely thanked a shop attendant for serving me. Suddenly I felt good, it was like, seeing for the first time, a prick-hole of light in a darkened room. That tiny beam of light was a realization of what recovery was like. It gave me hope. However, it only lasted a few seconds. When it vanished I was desperately trying to re-experience that moment of unconditional love. I walked around saying "thank you, thank you,..." in the hope of getting that light hole back into my heart. My wish/prayer was to be able to widen that hole so there will be no more darkness in my closed room/heart.

One day I was cycling with a friend, and expressed that I cannot race at 40 km/h (25 mph). He said, "sure you can, just follow me". He rode off and I was chasing after him, we soon were riding at 40 km/h. After half a minute of this I was exhausted and out of breadth, and quickly dropped done in speed. My friend said see, you did race at 40 kph, all you need to do now is to train and stretch that half minute to an hour or so. My friend pricked a hole in my darkroom of doubts.

Great examples, Hermit!

Welcome to CFnet :wave2
 
thanks, hermit and airdancer.

Its crazy. I thought about it today. People like me are often dead at a young age, in prison, in and out of jail, on skidrow, living in abject poverty with no escape. I don't count much to the world around me, but...I live in safety and comfort, I go to school online and do well, and I have freedom. God is good.
 
I'm 30. I have a diagnosis of Bipolar I w/psychotic features. My community has declared me "schizophrenic." The difference between my BP I and schizophrenia? Mainly the meds....I take stuff for mood on top of the (overpriced) antipsychotic. I receive disability, go to Liberty Online, and live with my (thankfully, comfortable) parents.

If you've read any of my many, many posts on my situation, you know the story...destroyed by shrinks, spent a long time being decidedly un-smart and obviously brain damaged, and I had physical health problems. All that has resolved now...and I'm only 2 years into being truly Born Again!

Its strange...at 23, I had a nervous breakdown. I guess since I was sickly and un-smart anyway, they figured hey, why not electroshock him back to the stone age? Yeah...7ish years later, I've recovered from "treatment..." and now I have to deal with the underlying issue, lol.

I think with psychiatric treatment, there's a balancing act: too many meds you hinder, rather than facilitate, genuine recovery (same goes for electroshock, obviously); too few, and the person can't recover, either. Throw in social class issues (read: lower and working class people don't receive the same level of treatment as middle and upper class folks) and such, and...well...I just didn't matter.

Now that my people have moved up the totem pole and they've decided to support and protect me, I get better treatment. People actually listen to what I say, its crazy. My shrink is sort of assinine, but...whatevs...most psychiatrists don't care for me. Actually, most mental health pros I've encountered haven't much cared for me.

Anyway, its like this....I'm smart for the first time in about 11 years. I'm physically healthy for the first time in about the same amount of time. "Everything you need for life and for godliness..." yes...that and then some, apparently. I think God has given me what I need to recover and pursue a life of my own, maybe somewhere away from here (here's hoping, lol).

I'm starting to realize that I don't deserve the grace shown me. I don't mean that in the false humility sort of way (I hope...), I just mean that I realize that God doesn't owe me or anybody anything. The amazing thing isn't that I went through it; the amazing thing is that I've been saved, set free, and now I have what I need to move forward.

So...yeah...bipolar I w/psychotic features or schizophrenia. I read an opinion piece by some shrink that said they're the same thing, just schizophrenia they use higher doses of antipsychotic and lots of antidepressants. In my "condition," apparently the approach is low-to-moderate doses of a couple different kinds of meds. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen the other to me, but the essay I read said there can be a huge difference. Oh, that and BP I isn't as stigmatized.

Anyway you look at it, moving forward won't be easy, but it has been and I pray will be rewarding. Mentally ill people these days apparently have to "know our place." I don't think its just the south, either. Its weird...we have TV ads for Abilify, Seroquel, all that, but when you're bona fide mentally ill, you're out of the picture. Done. Over. Society rejects you. That's it.

So, I don't know what happens from here on out. I'm doing well in school and I transferred in 70 credits, so I was a bit more than 1/2 there from the get go. I get along well with my parents. They love me, I love them. Thanks to disability, I'm not a huge burden on them, and my (like I said, overpriced) meds have a low co-pay.

Ugh. I want to recover, I want to have a life, I want...a lot of things. I don't know what's realistic and what's not. I was kind of hoping to do counseling because I'd be able to work without too much supervision, I know the mental health system, and I think I could do some good and also earn enough $$$ to live simply, on my own. But then I think about stigma against the mentally ill amongst counselors. Its like...I'd be crossing the line, you know? I might have to move to do it, if I end up getting the credentials.

But, yeah...I pray for recovery, whatever that looks like, whatever it "really" is. :)
Your just as "normal" as all of us, Sir. We are all recovering. Your bold and have said things on this forum that, I and most others would not confess to others. And we do not need to in the Christian way of life as long as we are honest with ourselves.

Here is a Grace paper on the recovery of a Christian. Gods word has ALL the solutions to your problems. Drugs,counseling and all the worlds solutions are bandages and do not cure. Gods word does.

I think all of should read this, and it is not an indictment on you personally. We all have been so influenced by the world that most of us don't think that Gods word has ALL of our solutions in it.

I have read most of your posts and think that you are figuring out Gods word and that is why you are on the way to recovery. And in your POSITION in Christ you are completely recovered. But in this life we all have our condition to contend with.

I am just as sick as you think you are. And Gods word is our only TRUE cure. I read this paper for myself and hope it is a benefit for you also. The name of the paper is in no way intended to condemn you, It is for ALL of us. And how this world has suckered us into their way of "treatment" for our problems. Gods word is the treatment for our messed up thinking and heads.

http://www.versebyverse.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/rehab.pdf
 
Christ_empowered, your story could be a strong testimony for others suffering through the same illnesses and "treatments."

Sometimes we have near-impossible trials to make us strong, but also that we may be a witness who can reach those who have seen better days.

How does the saying go? "A man with experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion."

God bless you, man. I'll keep praying for you!
 
thanks, hermit and airdancer.

Its crazy. I thought about it today. People like me are often dead at a young age, in prison, in and out of jail, on skidrow, living in abject poverty with no escape. I don't count much to the world around me, but...I live in safety and comfort, I go to school online and do well, and I have freedom. God is good.

God counted you to be worth saving (as He has with us all). He loves you soooooo very much! You have come a long way, and as you continue to grow in the Word and with Christ....His burden removing, yolk destroying anointing will encompass you...because He loves you and desires for you to be safe, secure (in Him), and totally relying on Him as your source of everything that you are, and for just the air that you breathe.

Jesus was not very popular with the world either. Time is getting short, and there are those who were called to preach or even just to share with the world what God has done for them, that failed or didn't show up......but here you are telling God Yes Sir, i am willing to obey You, and follow You, because I love You and believe in You....and because you are willing, you will be used.

As Paul said in 1 Timothy 1:16 "God had mercy on me so that Christ Jesus could use me as a prime example of His great patience with even the worst of sinners......this applies to you and me and all of us as well.

So as you have a desire to be fully recovered....do some research on the scriptures that convey wholeness or healing. And meditate on them. Proverbs 4:20-27 comes to mind....and all of the scriptures in the new testament where Jesus healed whomever....these promises are available to you as well. But you have to believe (you have to settle this within you) that God loves you and desires to heal you, and cause you to succeed. (Jeremiah 29:11)

And as for the future.....God has gotten you this far, and because You are now His Son His Favor goes before you. And so if God can be for you who can be against you. When you go in God's favor, no one can shut the doors that He opens. And as you follow His plans for your life, you will be successful.

Blessings my friend! Be blessed in all that you do!
 
We all can have a med issue. I hear those who say they do not take drugs. Really. There are an extreme number of things in our bloodstream from creation. Not having all the knowledge to handle all the issues, I just look at two (kind of bi- polar drugs).

Adrenalin. The upper that has to be managed. Anger, pride, etc., can release massive doses. Not on drugs? How many times has anger been an issue? How many times have you sought the thrills of carnal life?

Endorphins. Ever been depressed? Pain (both physical and emotional can release endorphins).

The word of God became a man. Jesus is the word. We all face the danger of addiction to these uppers and downers. Some of us admitt our years of addiction and the treatment the word / Jesus is for us. Others deny any problems at all.

So. Although we may not be addicted to legal or illegal drugs we are all close to problems that can develop internally. Bitterness etc.

I much prefer relating to others from this thought process. We all need treatement for sin. I can relate to all people.

eddif
 
Thanks for all the input!

Its so strange. Now that I'm smart (not a genius, just...I can finally hold my own w/ college-level courses), healthy, and increasingly n-o-r-m-a-l, people 'round here insist that I'm "schizophrenic" because of "poor life choices." Oh well.

Its weird, because 8-10 years ago (small, southern area), I definitely needed medical help. Physical, definitely (unhealthy and crazy burned out) and probably psychiatric, too. Now...I'm amazingly, miraculously healthy, etc. etc., and I'm now labeled "schizophrenic." Now that I think about it...kind of predictable, all things considered.

I have some growing up to do. Definitely have a good bit of growing up in The Lord to do. Sometimes, I feel like I just became a Christian. I mean, its only been 2 years+ , but...I dunno...maybe because I did the Teen Challenge thing, I thought I'd have it down by now, lol.

Life goes on. I just got a 200 out of 200 on a research paper. I praised God for that one! I mean, its not just the grade, its what the grade really means...that I can handle the work, that I can make progress, that I can, in fact, do somesthing with my life, now that I've been forgiven, saved, and set free.

Because one of my many labels was "narcissism," I always remind myself: "It is no longer I who lives, it is Christ who lives in me." Whoever I was, whatever my problems were, Christ has been working and continues to work in my heart and in my life. That hot mess of a human being I used to be doesn't define me anymore.

And the psychiatric stuff...I dunno. I mean, my counselor is a Born Again Christian (he even has a M.Div). Its a public health place, so they can't talk about their beliefs unless you give them the go ahead. Now, I only see him every 4-8 weeks (Public health....gotta save money!). My shrink, man oh man...not a believer. This is how I know I'm incompatible, and becoming ever more incompatible, with psychiatry. He basically encouraged me to go gay again and get in a relationship, even though I told him I'm Born Again and have to be celibate for this season in my life. I only see him every 12 weeks, so...whatevs, right? I get the sense that a lot of what they treat is misery and sin, plus social stuff (racism, poverty, mistreatment of women, child abuse) that they put diagnoses on. I guess its a lot easier for society as a whole to say "oh, he has (bipolar, schizophrenia, severe depression)" than to say "yeah...isn't poverty terrible?" or "yeah...sin really messes with you," or "our society messes people up." See what I'm saying?

Anyway...thanks again. :)
 
One of the problem solving devices in bible doctrine is a personal sense of destiny. This is why eternal security is so very important for the believer. Once we KNOW that He will never forsake us and we will never be plucked from His hand. And we can do nothing to lose our eternal life in Him. We will have a personal sense of destiny in our everyday problems,victories and directions in our life.

Dump the Shrink.
 
Because one of my many labels was "narcissism," I always remind myself: "It is no longer I who lives, it is Christ who lives in me." Whoever I was, whatever my problems were, Christ has been working and continues to work in my heart and in my life. That hot mess of a human being I used to be doesn't define me anymore.
:amen
 
My friend, thank you for sharing your heart and desire with us. God is a God of wonderful miracles which still exist today. Keep your eyes on Christ, as the Apostle Peter learned he could walk on water while he stayed fixed on Jesus.

May the grace of God abound in your life today.

My God, who art in heaven. Look upon us and have mercy. We believe Lord, we still believe in miracles. Send forth Your angels to strengthen to heal to recover. God remember Your Son, why he died and is now interceding on our behalf. Father we thank You. We honor You. To You be all the glory forever and ever, we ask all these things in Jesus name, Amen.

Believe in Him.
 
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