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if you would have to guess when will jesus return
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I would not even try to hazard a guess. For all I know, it could happen this afternoon.
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."
Matthew 24:36-39 NKJV
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."
Matthew 24:36-39 NKJV
christian1724
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I think you might use, as a rough gauge, the perceived percentage of the population that you consider to be honest Truth seekers. At present, I think such people are fairly rare. Also, of those whom you consider to be such people, to what extent do you perceive them to be persecuted?
On the last day.
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40
We know for sure that He returns after the tribulation.
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 24:29-31
His coming is certainly not imminent.
“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:15-21
JLB
christian1724
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The great tribulation is 31/2 years... 1260 days, a times, time and half of time
The 70th week is a 7 year period.
His coming: His return
The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.
The rapture occurs just after the resurrection.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15
JLB
I start and finish on the knowledge that Jesus will return, everything else that is said on this subject is, as Paul said an endless disscusion about meaningless genelogies.
If you have to guess when Christ returns, would it not be better to be prepared foe when He does!!!
The Parable of the Ten Virgins
Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
The Parable of the Ten Virgins
Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Please point out the “endless genealogies” in this scripture where Paul s teaching the Church about this topic.
JLB
Please post the scripture where Paul associated teaching about the coming of the Lord as “endless genealogies” .
JLB
tim-from-pa
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I won't say when He will return, but I see the "chess pieces" falling into place for a final checkmate. I see unfulfilled things yet, but given how fast events have been avalanching these days, they could be fulfilled fast. I'm presently 62 at the time of this post. I'm not sure if I will live to see that day, but I don't think it will be long after my death. Sir Isaac Newton believed it would not occur before 2060 and could be later.
I noticed events that happened what I call a "duo-decade" being two decades. Early 60's was weird (cold war, communism, etc), so was 1979 had a similar apocalyptic feeling as that was a very evil year. Then 20 years later 2001 things changed forever here in the USA with 911. Now in 2020 things changed again as the pandemic is a vehicle for more and more government overreach and the start of technological monitoring and information on people. This is the start of how an eventual mark will be achieved IMO. They are priming people right now, but too many in these generations are resisting yet (even in nations where people do not have the traditional degree of freedom the USA claims to have-- and yet they can see their government overreach).
While my generation, the first one here in the USA that puts these older (perhaps Marxist) ideologies to work, the rest of us here had enough Sunday School, civics lessons and the like to somewhat know better so my gut feeling is they are waiting for us baby boomers and perhaps gen x to die off. Gen Y may be cranky old people until then but may still comply, while the generations after that will be more clueless. The best way to introduce these unconstitutional ideologies is to make the kids grow up hating America-- then ANYTHING will look better. And the antichrist can't function, even remotely, by a great nation that practices the constitution. It must be gotten rid of first. I don't see that happening in my lifetime, at least not overtly (maybe de facto).
If anyone here wants something more specific, let's say it will wrap up in another two, possibly 3 duo-decades.
I noticed events that happened what I call a "duo-decade" being two decades. Early 60's was weird (cold war, communism, etc), so was 1979 had a similar apocalyptic feeling as that was a very evil year. Then 20 years later 2001 things changed forever here in the USA with 911. Now in 2020 things changed again as the pandemic is a vehicle for more and more government overreach and the start of technological monitoring and information on people. This is the start of how an eventual mark will be achieved IMO. They are priming people right now, but too many in these generations are resisting yet (even in nations where people do not have the traditional degree of freedom the USA claims to have-- and yet they can see their government overreach).
While my generation, the first one here in the USA that puts these older (perhaps Marxist) ideologies to work, the rest of us here had enough Sunday School, civics lessons and the like to somewhat know better so my gut feeling is they are waiting for us baby boomers and perhaps gen x to die off. Gen Y may be cranky old people until then but may still comply, while the generations after that will be more clueless. The best way to introduce these unconstitutional ideologies is to make the kids grow up hating America-- then ANYTHING will look better. And the antichrist can't function, even remotely, by a great nation that practices the constitution. It must be gotten rid of first. I don't see that happening in my lifetime, at least not overtly (maybe de facto).
If anyone here wants something more specific, let's say it will wrap up in another two, possibly 3 duo-decades.
christian1724
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Who knows when Christ will come again but considering the direction the world is heading i hope He comes soon
Scripture doesn't tell us the year He was born, so I am saying 33AD would be most likely the latest ... If indeed He was born in the year 1 at the beginning.
We do know He was about 30 years old when He began His ministry.
Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, Luke 3:23
The Jewish calender has us at year 5782.
JLB
tim-from-pa
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