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daynayee said:awaken said:daynayee said:I think that Salvation and the baptism are two very different things. All of us already have God's spirit inside of us. Because in Genesis when God was creating Adam it says that he breathed on Him. And the original hebrew translation used the word "Ruach" [im probably spelling that wrong though. haha.] and that word has two meanings. One of them is breath. And the other is Spirit. So not only has God breathing life into him, but also breathing his spirit into him. We are all sons and daughters of Adam, therefore, we have it already too. But the Holy Spirit is often referred to in the New Testament as "The Advocate" and the word advocate means, "A person who pleads for, on behalf of another; intercessor." So this leads me to believe that when we were created with God's breath and spirit inside of us it's something different than the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Yes, it's all from the same God, and part of the same trinity. But, they serve two different purposes. One was to give us life. And the other was to communicate to us directly from the Father, the Holy Spirit brings us knowledge, wisdom, discernment, prophecy, speaking in tongues, adn more.
this is all just my opinion.
i'm always up for debate. Not for arguments sake, but because i like hearing other's opinions and having to stand for my own.
~Daynayee
Interesting opinion...
I am still learning about the difference in the spirit breathed in man at the garden..and the spirit that indwells us now. So are you saying that Adam had the indwelling Spirit at creation..and he lost it?
Define what you're meaning by "Indwelling Spirit"??
Well..this is what I am hoping to resolve by this thread..
I see the indwelling Spirit and the baptism.. different experiences...
If Adam received the Holy Spirit in him during creation...then did he lose it when he fell?
What did Jesus die on the cross to reconcile?