Scotth1960
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Dear A Christian,Wow, that's some twisted history brother, but I'm glad you acknowledged that councils are the ones that authoritively interpret with the guidance of the Holy Spirit or course, the teachings of the Church.
Buy the way, the Catholic Church was calling itself the Catholic Church long before 1014 friend. See below:
Ignatius of Antioch
"Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he ordains [i.e., a presbyter]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church" (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).
The Martyrdom of Polycarp
"And of the elect, he was one indeed, the wonderful martyr Polycarp, who in our days was an apostolic and prophetic teacher, bishop of the Catholic Church in Smyrna. For every word which came forth from his mouth was fulfilled and will be fulfilled" (Martyrdom of Polycarp 16:2 [A.D. 155]).
The Muratorian Canon
"Besides these [letters of Paul] there is one to Philemon, and one to Titus, and two to Timothy, in affection and love, but nevertheless regarded as holy in the Catholic Church, in the ordering of churchly discipline. There is also one [letter] to the Laodiceans and another to the Alexandrians, forged under the name of Paul, in regard to the heresy of Marcion, and there are several others which cannot be received by the Church, for it is not suitable that gall be mixed with honey. The epistle of Jude, indeed, and the two ascribed to John are received by the Catholic Church (Muratorian fragment [A.D. 177]).
Tertullian
"Where was [the heretic] Marcion, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago—in the reign of Antonius for the most part—and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherius, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 30 [A.D. 200]).
The same Catholic Church in Constantinople I in 381 AD, with 318 Church Fathers, said "who proceeds from the Father". Later popes denied the application of this Council, and amended the Creed according to the false Council of Toledo, Spain, from 589 AD. This is preferring a local council's authority above that of this ecumenical council which was AT ONE TIME ENDORSED BY THE POPES OF ROME, but NOW the POPES OF ROME NO LONGER BELIEVE IN CONSTANTINOPLE I of 381 AD.
In Erie PA Scott Harrington