Is it a sin to take medications?

[Dave Slayer]

Is it a sin to take medications? Should Christians take such things as Tylenol for headaches? NyQuil to help get to sleep when you are sick? Should we take cough drops when we have a sore throat? Should we go to the doctor if we break an arm?

 

[Relic]

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Did Jesus have to put mud on the eyes of the blind man? No.

Would the blind man have been healed if he did not have had to wash the mud off of his eyes? Maybe, but I think the aid helped increase the faith of the blind man and Jesus knew that the faith without works is dead. Jesus knew that in the case of the blind man that it was better for the blind man to have an action to go along with his faith. And who knows, it may have been that the mud mixed with the spittle of the Lord had healing biological properties. We know the waters already had medicinal properties. So certain types of medicine is an aide, not a sin. (these days, we need to be very careful as to what "medicines" we take... Some have side effects that are much worse than the sickness it is used to cure. In other words, many medicines these days MASK the ailment rather than aid it.

so, in some cases, taking medication does not decrease faith for a healing, it increases a persons faith. And also, there are biological benefits. To paraphrase, Wine as mentioned in the bible is soothing to the belly, but it also states that excess wine is foolishness.

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[Relic]

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Another thing I forgot to mention....

Luke was a physician. The bible states nothing against the practice of medicine.

But again, these days..... one must use descretion in they types of medicine we use (because of all the side effects and what I call quacks who are willing to hand out a drug to anyone who asks for them) And we must also be very careful in what who we place our trust in as being our health care provider. Too many quacks out there. But then there are also very good trustworthy doctors. Finding the good ones are not so easy anymore, that is, for some people who have little money to "buy" a good doctor.

Use common sense. when it comes to drugs (medicine) and in choosing a doctor/health care provider. That's all there is too it these days. Common sense. I'm very leary of medicine that has more side effects that are, so freaky that I'd rather just put up with the discomfort of what's bothering me in the first place, rather than take that junk dope some of these drug companies are coming out with. Not to dis- all medicine... Some are necessary and beneficial...


And anyone to not want to get their broken arm fixed is NOT using their common sense.

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[jasoncran]

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Another thing I forgot to mention....

Luke was a physician. The bible states nothing against the practice of medicine.

But again, these days..... one must use descretion in they types of medicine we use (because of all the side effects and what I call quacks who are willing to hand out a drug to anyone who asks for them) And we must also be very careful in what who we place our trust in as being our health care provider. Too many quacks out there. But then there are also very good trustworthy doctors. Finding the good ones are not so easy anymore, that is, for some people who have little money to "buy" a good doctor.

Use common sense. when it comes to drugs (medicine) and in choosing a doctor/health care provider. That's all there is too it these days. Common sense. I'm very leary of medicine that has more side effects that are, so freaky that I'd rather just put up with the discomfort of what's bothering me in the first place, rather than take that junk dope some of these drug companies are coming out with. Not to dis- all medicine... Some are necessary and beneficial...


And anyone to not want to get their broken arm fixed is NOT using their common sense.

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couldn't say it better myself

 

[handy]

On the general idea of whether or not to take medications, I think modern medicine is a great blessing. If someone doesn't think that we should take medications, then they might as well go all out and deny themselves electric lighting. After all, Jesus is the Light of the World, is He not? They probably also should forgo that loaf of Eddy's in the breadbox because Jesus is also the Bread of Life. And, let's not forget that Jesus gives us living water so that we will never thirst again, so no bottles of Evian in the fridge.

I do believe Christians should think twice about taking meds that are trying to cure "normal". If something is just part of the normal human condition is isn't ill health at all, one shouldn't try to cure it. I'm thinking of meds that women take to highly regulate and take away all the normal discomforts of the monthly cycle or meds that try to cure ADHD when the child the meds are being administered to doesn't have any disorder but instead a healthy energy level and curiosity level. (I've worked with countless children and it's horrible how many kids are on powerful neurological drugs simply because they are active kids.)

 

[Sanitarium]

reminds me of a joke

The river in the village a priest lived in was about to burst its banks and drown everything. A car pulled up to the church and shouted to the priest, "Father, we can squeeze you in. Hop in!" The priest replied, "No, you go my children. Save someone else. God will save me!" The water level kept rising and some people in an inflatable boat rowed to the church and shouted to the priest, "Father! Hop in! You're going to drown!" The priest replied, "No, go save someone else. God will save me!" Now the whole town was under water. The priest made it to the roof of the church where a helicopter hovered nearby and shouted to him, "Father, grab the rope!" to which the priest replied, "No, don't worry about me. God will save me!"

Our poor friend the priest drowns and he goes to heaven. When he met God, he asked him, "I've been your humble servant all my life. I helped the poor and did good deeds. Why didn't you save me?" And God replied, "Whatever do you mean? I sent you a car, and you said no; I sent you a boat, and you refused; and when I sent you a helicopter, you still said no."

 

[Cornelius]

Gal 5:20 Idolatry,G1495 witchcraft,G5331 hatred,G2189 variance,G2054 emulations,G2205 wrath,G2372 strife,G2052 seditions,G1370 heresies,G139

G5331
ÆαÃÂμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacyâ€Â), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.

 

[GojuBrian]

Cornelius,

I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting you actually believe what you just wrote.

 

[Cornelius]

Cornelius,

I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting you actually believe what you just wrote.

I was not aware that I wrote anything of myself ? I only posted a scripture with its Greek meaning . Are you saying that the scripture is wrong?

 

[turnorburn]

Matthew 11:10And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of
the mouth, this defileth a man.


turnorburn


:yes

 

[Cornelius]

Jer 17:5 Thus saith Jehovah: Cursed is the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from Jehovah.

 

[handy]

Cornelius,

I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting you actually believe what you just wrote.

I was not aware that I wrote anything of myself ? I only posted a scripture with its Greek meaning . Are you saying that the scripture is wrong?

Don't insult our intelligence by implying you weren't trying to compare taking medications with witchcraft. Looking at the roots of Greek words has nothing to do with the discussion at hand which is whether or not there is anything inherently sinful in taking medications and there isn't.

 

[Cornelius]

Cornelius,

I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting you actually believe what you just wrote.

I was not aware that I wrote anything of myself ? I only posted a scripture with its Greek meaning . Are you saying that the scripture is wrong?

Don't insult our intelligence by implying you weren't trying to compare taking medications with witchcraft. Looking at the roots of Greek words has nothing to do with the discussion at hand which is whether or not there is anything inherently sinful in taking medications and there isn't.

Interesting, so we cannot look at the original Greek, because it insults you when the translators translated the word sorcery from what the Greek says is medicine?

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousies, wraths, factions, divisions, parties,


Here is it again, we can all read and Google it for ourselves. Its not insulting , its reality.

You will see that the Greek word is the word that we get Pharmacy from in the English:

G5331
ÆαÃÂμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacyâ€Â), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.


God wrote this, not me. So be angry with Him, not me.I am just quoting what is written. Sorry if it disturbs you.

C

 

[handy]

I'm not angry with anyone, just keep the discussion honest. I simply don't like it when someone deliberately interjects something into the discussion then goes " ".

Yes, the Greek word "pharmakeia", which was translated as witchcraft is the root of the modern word Pharmacy. What does this have to do with the current discussion as to whether it is a sin take medication for legitimate health issues?

 

[Cornelius]

I'm not angry with anyone, just keep the discussion honest. I simply don't like it when someone deliberately interjects something into the discussion then goes " ".

Yes, the Greek word "pharmakeia", which was translated as witchcraft is the root of the modern word Pharmacy. What does this have to do with the current discussion as to whether it is a sin take medication for legitimate health issues?

So you cannot make the link yourself here? I am going to take a chance here and say that you will tell me that scripture cannot mean pharmakeia = medicine, but that it can only mean the use of illegal drugs. If you do, then you have to convince me, because that Greek word is the general word used for ordinary medicine .

C

 

[Cornelius]

Rev 18:23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.

So if ALL the nations were deceived with pharmakeia , were all of the nations on illegal drugs?

Kind of an important word, to be used as the method of deception to the nations don't you think? Think about it, ALL the nations partook of pharmakeia and God calls them deceived. Maybe this is important enough to give a second thought too ?
C

 

[handy]

I do think that while the words have a common root, witchcraft, drug abuse and legitimate medications have nothing to do with each other, other than the fact that the words have a common root.

Tying witchcraft with taking a medication for a health issue is really reaching. If you are convinced in your heart that taking an ibuprofen when one has a headache is akin to witchcraft, so be it. But, I would do a lot, LOT more studying on the issue before trying to teach that as any kind of Biblical truth. The only Biblical truth that you've brought up so far is the fact that of the common root with the words. Nothing more.

 

[Cornelius]

I do think that while the words have a common root, witchcraft, drug abuse and legitimate medications have nothing to do with each other, other than the fact that the words have a common root.

Tying witchcraft with taking a medication for a health issue is really reaching. If you are convinced in your heart that taking an ibuprofen when one has a headache is akin to witchcraft, so be it. But, I would do a lot, LOT more studying on the issue before trying to teach that as any kind of Biblical truth. The only Biblical truth that you've brought up so far is the fact that of the common root with the words. Nothing more.

Well that's a good start and its something that I have done a LOT of studying on in the past three years.
So much in fact, that I can tell you that God is gracious , but His perfect will is to heal you without medication. In fact He says so Himself: Exo 15:26 and he said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of Jehovah thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his eyes, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases upon thee, which I have put upon the Egyptians: for I am Jehovah that healeth thee.

Please also know, that Jesus came to take your curse (including your sickness) upon Himself, so that you do not have to carry it anymore.

Does this take a step of faith? Of course it does. When we want to walk in faith, we will be tested and if we endure the test of faith, we will get that which we have had faith for.

C

 

[handy]

I'm not angry with anyone, just keep the discussion honest. I simply don't like it when someone deliberately interjects something into the discussion then goes " ".

Yes, the Greek word "pharmakeia", which was translated as witchcraft is the root of the modern word Pharmacy. What does this have to do with the current discussion as to whether it is a sin take medication for legitimate health issues?

So you cannot make the link yourself here? I am going to take a chance here and say that you will tell me that scripture cannot mean pharmakeia = medicine, but that it can only mean the use of illegal drugs. If you do, then you have to convince me, because that Greek word is the general word used for ordinary medicine .

C

I'm not even going to make the connection between pharmakeia and the use of illegal drugs. We are talking a Greek root of a word in which we gain a variety of word in our modern language.

Take for instance our word "drug". It means a variety of things as well. It can be both noun and verb. It can mean both legitimate medicine and illegal narcotics. One is totally lawful the other isn't, but the same word is used for both.

 

[handy]

Well that's a good start and its something that I have done a LOT of studying on in the past three years.
So much in fact, that I can tell you that God is gracious , but His perfect will is to heal you without medication. In fact He says so Himself: Exo 15:26 and he said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of Jehovah thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his eyes, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases upon thee, which I have put upon the Egyptians: for I am Jehovah that healeth thee.

Please also know, that Jesus came to take your curse (including your sickness) upon Himself, so that you do not have to carry it anymore.

Does this take a step of faith? Of course it does. When we want to walk in faith, we will be tested and if we endure the test of faith, we will get that which we have had faith for.

C

Good. I'm glad that you are studying! And I agree with you that Jesus can heal anyone at anytime without medications. Whether or not He will do so is between Him and the individual and has nothing to do with how much faith that individual has. Sometimes, His grace is sufficient for one. It also has nothing to do with whether or not taking medications is a sin.

If one has a legitimate health issue and takes a medication for it, there is no sin involved.