I do not believe that abortion is ever okay, and I believe that the argument that it is in certain cases is the wool being pulled over our eyes. I had a lot of thoughts as I read through the posts here.
First of all, peace ,and Quath, have very conservative answers for not being believers, in my opinion. Also, Quath, good to see you...you have been gone a while.
Secondly, I think prevention of abortions is extremely important, but we can not appeal to unbelievers about this because immorality concerning sex, and abortion, are so accepted now. People no longer feel badly about these acts, and use science to justify disobedience to their own consciences, and ultimately God. Science, in the form of a contraceptive (or abortifacient) also helps eliminate the immediate consequences of such immoral behavior before anyone even has to consider a surgical abortion. Though, because of the pill, they may have unknowingly already had one. The thing is, to call it murder is offensive to the world, because they do not see this child as a child (a living soul), but as a chemical blob. Sin prevails in a sinner, and that is why it is seemingly prevailing in the world, because it is filled with the lost. If we really want to prevent abortion, then we need to be beacons for Christ by living what we believe, and serving others in need, and spreading the Gospel at every opportunity. Practising the true religion that Christ taught us.
What I find interesting about the whole topic, is that there are people making tons of money off of this (as solo mentioned), and young girls are the ones getting exploited for this cash cow. Now, why are the feminist organizations not standing against this? Even if they believe that women have the right to choose, is not the exploitation of women, and children, something that should be battled for by such organizations...and others like them? I believe it is because these very organizations are built on the same kind of exploitation themselves, and have no true compassion corporately, but have only power in their heads, dollar signs in their eyes, and the promotion of hatred of men, and families, in their fists.
Think about it. We tell a young girl that she has to be supermodel beautiful, wear expensive clothes, stay thin, tan, and blond no matter what she needs to do to achieve it. We do not protect her at all, except that she went to a clinic at age 11, or so, and received "protection". Or, she received some free condoms at school, or something. Then, we allow her to be led by her young, and developing, emotions that are controlled by any boy who tells her a good lie. She puts herself at risk of being used, of contracting a disease, and possibly getting pregnant and ruining the life of a child, herself, and the young man. Then, "we" counsel her into either aborting the baby...at the risk of her own health (physical), and her own emotional health, and at the price of the life of a child....or, we tell her the right thing to do could be giving the baby up for adoption, which also has another whole series of ramifications even though she is at least not committing murder. These girls are, in part at least, from the good homes that have enough "money" to raise a child. I am sure that some of their parents limited their families in order to provide a "good" home. I would say that even believers have had daughters, and sons, who have done these things. This is sad, and there is no one who will be an advocate for these girls, unless it is their own parents, because no one else can prevent this scenario...not even prolife groups. God is the only one who can intervene and make a real difference by either saving the parents, and convicting them of not protecting their children from the ravages of the world, or by saving these children and preventing them from doing such things by His divine protection.
Gabby, I thought your testimony was amazing. It reminded me of Janice McBride...maybe you have heard of her...she was also a child of rape, and her mother actually attempted to abort her, but she lived. She lived only to be prostituted out by her mother in Scotland during the war. Bombs were everywhere, and food was scarce, but she survived. I don't want to give satan any glory, but her testimony does not need a lot of details, really. She married eventually, and her husband and her were on the verge of divorce when God touched her life. She knows why God spared her, as do many other families who benefit from their ministry.
There is probably more that I could say on this topic, but the bottom lines is that I can not see any real benefits to abortion outside of the ability to be promiscuious, and the ability of others to make a lot of money. That is the ugly, crude, truth of it.
The Lord bless you all.
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remember, i deal with adult males) I never advise anyone to have an abortion; BUT, I never advise them not to, either. If they say they're having one, I remain silent. I make the suggestion of adoption---and get looked at as if I have 2 heads. In this population, there are 2 ways to deal with an unexpected pregnancy: either have it or not have it. There is no middle ground, seemingly. Abortion in the second or third trimester? NO. And trying to get guys to practice abstinence???? Well, you might as well ask for snow in July. These guys start a sexual career in early teens and keep right at it. I have one now who has 3 people pregnant at the same time. Try mentioning abstinence in a group setting!! :o Why, that's the most unheard of thing in the whole world.