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Is Playing Mature Rated Games Alright?

There is always talk on whether or not christians should watch an R rated movie but what about playing a mature rated video game? Remember the song, be careful little eyes what you see? That's what I have been told by an old friend of mine all the time when I mentioned R rated movies and Mature rated games but was she right? After all what we watch can corrupt and warp our mind.

Here's what I think, as long the game don't contain extremely foul language or nudity I will play it, but we all have deferent convictions. I have known people who don't play any violent games at all or games with suggestive themes. The main why to tell is how do you act in life? Do you feel convicted while playing certain games? answer these questions and you should be able to find out what games to play.

So what do you guys and gals think?
 
Let's ask a few questions:

1) Why do you play these games?

2) How do these games benefit your walk with the Lord?

3) Would you drink a glass of water if that glass of water had just a pinch of dirt in it?
 
1) Because they're insanely fun.

2) Depends on the game. I'm of the opinion that great pieces of art, while they may not be directly 'Christian', can nevertheless be quite inspirational/valuable for the Christian walk, insofar as they are 'true'. For this, I cite Metal Gear Solid 4; an M-rated game, and among the more beautiful pieces of art I've experienced. For others (like Grand Theft Auto 4), it's just plain fun. I assume you have fun?

3) Sure.
 
What does it mean to have fun?

Adults can have "fun" mature relationships, but that does not mean that they should.

Paul cautions us that while we have freedom in Christ, not everything is profitable.

Should we "play" things that we should not do in our Christian walk? Should we listen to music that takes the Lord's name in vein when we are commanded not to?
 
Not sure how to respond to that.

I don't care enough to bother getting a video recorder, a glass of water, and a speck of dirt.

I do apologize, though, if my willingness to do this breaks down the implicit analogy. ;)

And no worries, you haven't pushed my buttons. Who knows; maybe I'll bust out a video recorder and prove you wrong. =)
 
Tissue said:
Not sure how to respond to that.

I don't care enough to bother getting a video recorder, a glass of water, and a speck of dirt.

I do apologize, though, if my willingness to do this breaks down the implicit analogy. ;)

And no worries, you haven't pushed my buttons. Who knows; maybe I'll bust out a video recorder and prove you wrong. =)
perhaps one day then, you should look at the what is the weirdist thing you ordered at mcd's thread in humor and jokes section and see what i have done and yes i did drink that coke with mustard / and also with ketchup in it, not a whole lot but a smidgeon.
 
Menno said:
What does it mean to have fun?

Adults can have "fun" mature relationships, but that does not mean that they should.

Paul cautions us that while we have freedom in Christ, not everything is profitable.

Should we "play" things that we should not do in our Christian walk? Should we listen to music that takes the Lord's name in vein when we are commanded not to?

Oh, sure, there are forms of 'fun' that are wrong. You haven't exactly proven that my enjoyment of M-rated games is wrong, though. It isn't. Perhaps it is for some, and I certainly wouldn't let my hypothetical toddlers play them, but I don't have a problem with them personally.

For this reason, I don't see any issue with playing a game in which my character acts in a way I wouldn't. It's interesting for me, as it allows me to, in a way, see how that line of action goes.

I'm mature. I can play games in which I engage in warfare without then having any inclination to be violent. I'm actually a very mellow and peaceful person.
 
jasoncran said:
perhaps one day then, you should look at the what is the weirdist thing you ordered at mcd's thread in humor and jokes section and see what i have done and yes i did drink that coke with mustard / and also with ketchup in it, not a whole lot but a smidgeon.

Hahaha

Now THAT, I wouldn't drink.

On a side note, I'd rather drink water with a pinch of dirt in it than any carbonated beverage. Except maybe beer.
 
Tissue said:
Menno said:
What does it mean to have fun?

Adults can have "fun" mature relationships, but that does not mean that they should.

Paul cautions us that while we have freedom in Christ, not everything is profitable.

Should we "play" things that we should not do in our Christian walk? Should we listen to music that takes the Lord's name in vein when we are commanded not to?

Oh, sure, there are forms of 'fun' that are wrong. You haven't exactly proven that my enjoyment of M-rated games is wrong, though. It isn't. Perhaps it is for some, and I certainly wouldn't let my hypothetical toddlers play them, but I don't have a problem with them personally.

For this reason, I don't see any issue with playing a game in which my character acts in a way I wouldn't. It's interesting for me, as it allows me to, in a way, see how that line of action goes.

I'm mature. I can play games in which I engage in warfare without then having any inclination to be violent. I'm actually a very mellow and peaceful person.


I am not attempting to prove that playing "mature" games are wrong... but rather, I am attempting to understand seeking enjoyment in them - or seeking "imaginative enjoyment" that might be in violation of Scripture.
 
Menno said:
I am not attempting to prove that playing "mature" games are wrong... but rather, I am attempting to understand seeking enjoyment in them - or seeking "imaginative enjoyment" that might be in violation of Scripture.

In playing a game that depicts a violation of Scripture, I am not actually violating Scripture, any more than watching a film in which a character violates Scripture constitutes a violation of Scripture. It isn't real.
 
Tissue said:
Menno said:
I am not attempting to prove that playing "mature" games are wrong... but rather, I am attempting to understand seeking enjoyment in them - or seeking "imaginative enjoyment" that might be in violation of Scripture.

In playing a game that depicts a violation of Scripture, I am not actually violating Scripture, any more than watching a film in which a character violates Scripture constitutes a violation of Scripture. It isn't real.

So watching porn would be acceptable?
 
The general argument against pornography is that it induces lust in the individual, not that sin is being displayed and observed.

If one can watch pornography without being induced to lust, then it is no sin.
 
The Bible tells us to think about what is noble and what is pure. It also tells us that whatever we do, we do for the glory of god. If a M-Rated game follows these guidelines, then I don't see how it can be a problem. I know there are M-Rated games that are very noble and pure in their thought, but have objectionable content. Let's take for example a game of mine that I find to be very great: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. It has an M Rating for the following reasons: Blood, Crude Humor, Strong Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence. So let me take them into consideration.

-Violence: Sure the game is violent, but you are encouraged in the game not to kill any one. You collect Drebin points throughout the entire game, and the lower your kill count, the more points you get. You can just use your tranquilizers on people and save the other guns for the robots. Nothing wrong with destroying evil things that man creates.

-Crude Humor: I can't remember much off the top of my head, but I don't remember anything too horrible in the game. Can someone back me up? Having said that, Crude Humor isn't my cup of tea, but I can manage with little amounts.

-Strong Language: This I find inexcusable. The one thing I did not care for in the game at all. I think this isn't even that necessary.

-Suggestive Themes: All of the female boss characters wall towards you in provocative ways. They also wear skin tights suits. Doesn't sound like something pleasant, but if you approach the females, your pretty much dead. It's very hard to fight them close range, and you'll lose nearly all your health. If they would have buttoned up Naomi's shirt, this would have not even been the smallest of problems with me.

-Blood: See violence section. This can be nearly skipped except for in cutscenes.

-Themes of the game: Self Sacrifice for others, learning there is always value in life, destruction of war on the world, and how the world may turn war into just another economy. This game has enormous value for me. Snake is a true hero, and I've felt for him in every Metal Gear game I have ever played.

In an M-Game or other rated one doesn't encompass good thoughts, stay away from it. Examples include Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, Saint's Row and Leisure Suit Larry. There are also games where you have to be cautious about your decisions, such as Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

I also don't really care for games where the violence is real gory where all they did was add buckets of blood for odd reasons. For example, I think Gears of War could have gone a tad easy with the chainsaws. I can play games like Silent Hill where it's more dark and blood is used to scare you than to just make a gory mess. I also think games like Dead Space aren't that bad in that when you shoot at the arms, the only thing that happens is that the arm falls off. Violence isn't bad unless it is glorified in a senseless way.

As for online shooter games, I don't have that many problems with them. Most of the time, you shoot someone, and they disappear, and respawn back into the field. Sounds kinda like, well, Football to me! I don't care for elements in the games where you can have cruel violence such as killzone 2. When you die, you are only mortally wounded, and someone can take a shotgun or machine gun and shoot you even more. I find this rather disturbing. I'd rather play one like Uncharted, where they just die, disappear, and respawn after you play. If you play these games, might I suggest a christian clan?

For closing remarks, I've said what I believe. You don't have to think like this, but take whatever you do up with God first. I prayed with him week after week if it's okay to play shooter games, and he keeps telling me not all of the shooter games out there are bad. In fact, he wants me to join a clan to be a witness for him in the gaming field.
 
Tissue said:
The general argument against pornography is that it induces lust in the individual, not that sin is being displayed and observed.

If one can watch pornography without being induced to lust, then it is no sin.

Totally agree. God looks more at the intent of the heart than anything else. Like you said, nudity itself is not sinful, but the only purpose of pornography is to inspire lust in people. It's also very addicting which I've unfortunately learned.

So, if anyone who is say nudity is sinful in itself, I have a question to ask. A few years ago for my high school junior history class, I watched a movie about slavery that showed naked slaves being thrown overboard. Did we sin?
 
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