is sola scripture (sp?) such a good idea?

[Christ_empowered]

Just thinking out loud. I mean, all these Protestant denominations have different ideas, so we have different denominations, then they split, on and on it goes.

 

[reba]

so What is the big deal? We all live in different houses.... some folks like carpet some like hardwood differences are not a bad thing.

 

[Gary]

Just thinking out loud. I mean, all these Protestant denominations have different ideas, so we have different denominations, then they split, on and on it goes.

1 Corinthians 1
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.


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[reba]

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[reba]

A husband and wife are to be joined together but there are not the same...

 

[jasonc]

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ze goose step, we shall march to that beat of wagner.

 

[Cturtle]

1 Corinthians 1
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
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We are the Body of Christ. If the world sees the Body of Christ divided and fighting, then they will not know we are Christians by our love and it will be less people for the kingdom of God. Thus hurting God.
Different denominations are people divided by man's interpretations of the Word.

 

[Obadiah]

Just thinking out loud. I mean, all these Protestant denominations have different ideas, so we have different denominations, then they split, on and on it goes.

You seem to be saying that the doctrine of Sola scriptura brought about all these different denomonations. Sola scriptura states that only the Bible is the supreme authority. If you add additional authorities on the same level of supremety as the Bible it seems that would simply cause even more reasons to divide.

 

[Cturtle]

Thanks Obadiah for clarifying. I suppose i should have done a google search on what sola meant. Blessings

 

[Christ_empowered]

yeah...but...The Catholic Church...the reformation was the big split. Other than that, nearly 2,000 years, and they're one big (kinda happy) family.

 

[jasonc]

yeah...but...The Catholic Church...the reformation was the big split. Other than that, nearly 2,000 years, and they're one big (kinda happy) family.

uhm, the orthodox was a break away before that and they don't believe in solo scriptura either.

so its good with the pope in rome calls cadence and the parishioner move in step to his beat? left, left, left.. the old book of genesis is a lie, " the book of genesis is a lie. left, left. god doesn't use magic, left, left, left.. while its not like that but since I have been under that type of we will tell you what it says its a good thing? the rcc does allow for the parishioner to read for himself but they cant exactly deviate to far. know what I mean?

 

[Christ_empowered]

but is that so terrible? I mean, the catholic church has this huge body of knowledge and wisdom that they've been building upon, refining, for centuries.

I dunno. Maybe its because I've seen and heard what happens when zealous, presumably well-intentioned, Born Again Christians just "go their own way" with interpretations and...

...ugh. Also, a lot of mainline Protestant denominations are dying. I grew up PCUSA, for instance. They're numbers are down, and its no wonder, lol. I think the Methodists have been losing members, too...the Episcopalians have gone so far from their roots that its sad, and frightening.

And then...there's the Catholics...lol. I dunno. Then again, The Pentecostals are growing rapidly, too, especially overseas. All is not lost within the Protestant side of Christendom.

 

[jasonc]

but is that so terrible? I mean, the catholic church has this huge body of knowledge and wisdom that they've been building upon, refining, for centuries.

I dunno. Maybe its because I've seen and heard what happens when zealous, presumably well-intentioned, Born Again Christians just "go their own way" with interpretations and...

...ugh. Also, a lot of mainline Protestant denominations are dying. I grew up PCUSA, for instance. They're numbers are down, and its no wonder, lol. I think the Methodists have been losing members, too...the Episcopalians have gone so far from their roots that its sad, and frightening.

And then...there's the Catholics...lol. I dunno. Then again, The Pentecostals are growing rapidly, too, especially overseas. All is not lost within the Protestant side of Christendom.

so I can find "family" in jewry which is big too, the chassidics are very large. doesn't mean its right. truth isn't determined by numbers. so its ok to have gambling sponsored by the church? bingo is a type of gambling. I don't see that as a good thing. the church might as well have a bar next to the alter.

 

[jasonc]

I guess a history lesson of why martin luther started to reform the rcc in his mind. he didn't want to break away but they refused him and defrocked him.
1) the simplicity of believing in jesus as the savior(by faith alone)isn't taught by the rcc as we say it.
2) the fact of corruption of paying for penance was tolerated by the rcc in his day and he wanted to fix that
there is more but I would have to dig them up, and learn more myself. luther was a priest in the rcc.

purgatory implies that the cross isn't enough that you can if you aren't "holy" enough that you must be purged in a place like sheol/hades. that the faithful alive can pray you in even if you are damned to heaven. that involves a ritual similar to the jewish mourners kaddish.
nevermind the other books they have and the status of god hood given to mary. n

not all churches are nice. you as a pauper wouldn't be allowed into the catholic church on the beach here. im a local and I wouldn't be welcome either. they refused a cop, that was in front of their church directing traffic for their use, to allow them to use their restroom!

 

[Jesse]

but is that so terrible? I mean, the catholic church has this huge body of knowledge and wisdom that they've been building upon, refining, for centuries.

I dunno. Maybe its because I've seen and heard what happens when zealous, presumably well-intentioned, Born Again Christians just "go their own way" with interpretations and...

...ugh. Also, a lot of mainline Protestant denominations are dying. I grew up PCUSA, for instance. They're numbers are down, and its no wonder, lol. I think the Methodists have been losing members, too...the Episcopalians have gone so far from their roots that its sad, and frightening.

And then...there's the Catholics...lol. I dunno. Then again, The Pentecostals are growing rapidly, too, especially overseas. All is not lost within the Protestant side of Christendom.

The Catholic Church is built upon the Nicolatain system, which the Lord detests. They have people over people over people, it's a control tactic.

Did you know the congregation had to pay the priests to pray their people out of purgatory? They were actually charged for prayer, and their belief was/is that if they weren't prayed for, they would remain in purgatory forever - no wonder the Catholics were rich. haha

They also did not allow the people to read the Bible because the priests thought they were too stupid to understand what it meant and the only people who understood were the priests.

Christ came to get rid of that system and the Catholics brought back the very system Christ's hates, putting people underneath them and using power and guilt to control the masses. Another issue were the cathedrals, they were temples that church spent millions of $$s; on and still do, people were very poor and were in need but the church spent on money on elaborate buildings. It was all about appearance.

Then of course all the man made rules, much likes the Pharisees made up, these were unnecessary, but the Catholics made them up and claimed these were necessary.

These were the very reasons Luther stood up against the Catholic Church and the reformation happened.

 

[jasonc]

to be fair, a lot of non catholic churches have done the same with church buildings.

 

[Jesse]

to be fair, a lot of non catholic churches have done the same with church buildings.

That is true, but I also think this "tradition" is from the Catholic church. I think a lot of what churches do today is a direct result of what the Catholics taught. The protestants in many ways, left the Catholic church but took with them unnecessary traditions.

That's what I have studied about it. There is a ton more but I'd have to dig out my notes. lol You probably know way more than I do about it.

 

[turnorburn]

yeah...but...The Catholic Church...the reformation was the big split. Other than that, nearly 2,000 years, and they're one big (kinda happy) family.

Don't let appearances fool you CE they are not one big "kinda happy" family as they would have you think..

tob

 

[Gary]

...ugh. Also, a lot of mainline Protestant denominations are dying. I grew up PCUSA, for instance. They're numbers are down, and its no wonder, lol. I think the Methodists have been losing members, too...the Episcopalians have gone so far from their roots that its sad, and frightening.

And then...there's the Catholics...lol. I dunno. Then again, The Pentecostals are growing rapidly, too, especially overseas. All is not lost within the Protestant side of Christendom.

Our journey isn't going to be defined by which group we belong to. It's gonna be defined by the relationship we have with Christ.

That's what God looks at. The sincerity of our efforts to walk in the footsteps of Jesus.

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[jasonc]

That is true, but I also think this "tradition" is from the Catholic church. I think a lot of what churches do today is a direct result of what the Catholics taught. The protestants in many ways, left the Catholic church but took with them unnecessary traditions.

That's what I have studied about it. There is a ton more but I'd have to dig out my notes. lol You probably know way more than I do about it.

greed, that is nothing more. or whatever the word for it. locally we had a case of it here. I can post pics of what im talking about.