Is the Mark of the Beast Forgivable?

[Jake]

I wonder why everyone seems to be dodging the question. The closest we've come to the truth is that the mark and blaspheme against the spirit is the same. The question remains as to what is blasphemy against the spirit?

Someone who has the mark is someone who is not saved, they can not lose what they don't have. Never saved!

Blasphemy is denying what the Holy Spirit has done, see Mark 3.

 

[Jake]

No, accepting the mark of the beast is as good as signing your own second-death warrant. It is a covenant with the anti-christ.

The anti-christ is not a person, someone who has the mark is someone who has the spirit of the anti-christ. There are only 2 kinds of people - those with the Spirit of Christ and those with the spirit of the anti-christ (those taking the mark).

 

[precepts]

Action speaks louder than words, my friend.

 

[Jake]

Action speaks louder than words, my friend.

Precepts,
Could you please elaborate on what exactly you are referring to?
Thanks -

 

[Sam21]

Lost people do not have the mark of the Beast because we were all lost at one time,so that would mean we all had the mark of the Beast and the bible is definite that those who accept the mark of the Beast cannot be saved. There is a real individual coming who Revelation identified as the Beast and he will demand a mark...do not let anyone talk you out of this biblical truth.

 

[precepts]

Precepts,
Could you please elaborate on what exactly you are referring to?
Thanks -

What?

 

[precepts]

Lost people do not have the mark of the Beast because we were all lost at one time,so that would mean we all had the mark of the Beast and the bible is definite that those who accept the mark of the Beast cannot be saved. There is a real individual coming who Revelation identified as the Beast and he will demand a mark...do not let anyone talk you out of this biblical truth.

What?

 

[cHRISTIANpATRIOT(DOWN nwo]

All things are possible in the lord and judgment is the lords alone. So to say no things are unforgivable is contradictory to christian philosophies, if a child is bore with the mark unaware and comes to know truth and repents how can god damn them. The mark of the beast ,(RFID verichip) and one world currency are growing at an exponential rate, soon you will all have to wield the sword and shield of the lord, but fear not for we still have strength in the lord that is matched by none. So brothers of the true and one god, be blessed, and go out and take the fight to the Nefillim, and any entity that would press his evil rule on we the free people of the earth. You have strength in numbers and we let ourselves become weaker with ever battle we back down from, ours is The king of kings, lord of lords, and master of all, so it is better to stand for him even in death to protect love and good for our fellow man. Go out friend for you are to be salt and light, follow the one god, and fear not for not even the blackness of hell can hinder one carrying the will of the lord. Most of all remember of all things love is the most important, so go out help, love, care for those in need, and be righteous in the lord.

 

[Vic C.]

I wonder why everyone seems to be dodging the question. The closest we've come to the truth is that the mark and blaspheme against the spirit is the same. The question remains as to what is blasphemy against the spirit?

You asked but you may not like my answer. Hardly anyone is willing to accept this.

This sin cannot be committed by a born again, bought by blood, believer. This sin was against those who saw Jesus in the flesh, performing miracles in and through the Spirit, yet rejected them and accused Him of doing the work of the Adversary.

Those who took/take this mark were NEVER one of God's children. They are all children of lawlessness.

 

[D4Christ]

Is the mark of the Beast forgivable?

The question is, is anyone who accepts the mark of the beast asking to be forgiven?

Rev 13

8 And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life before the world was made—the Book that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered.

If only the people who belong to the beast accept his mark, then they don't belong to Christ and they wouldn't be asking for Christ's forgiveness. In fact, scriptures show us that they curse God and refuse to repent.

Rev 16

So the first angel left the Temple and poured out his bowl on the earth, and horrible, malignant sores broke out on everyone who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue.
8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, causing it to scorch everyone with its fire. 9 Everyone was burned by this blast of heat, and they cursed the name of God, who had control over all these plagues. They did not repent of their sins and turn to God and give him glory.
10 Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom was plunged into darkness. His subjects ground their teeth in anguish, 11 and they cursed the God of heaven for their pains and sores. But they did not repent of their evil deeds and turn to God.

Taking the mark of the beast is a choice...forgiveness is not on the minds of those making that choice.

Blessings,
Dee

 

[precepts]

Wow! I think I'll leave these two last post for the readers to comprehend. It's so sad that this is what Christianity has come to. Where the carcass is is where you'll definitely find the vultures!

 

[D4Christ]

Wow is right for the scriptures say what they mean and mean what they say! I hope the readers understand that forgiveness comes with repentance.

Luke

47 It was also written that this message would be proclaimed in the authority of his name to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem: ‘There is forgiveness of sins for all who repent.'

The scriptures demonstrate that those who take the mark are far from repentant, even going as far as to curse God. Using the terms 'mark of the beast' and 'forgiveness' in the same sentence is a contradiction. To suggest that someone who takes the mark would ask for or seek forgiveness in order to be forgiven goes against what the scriptures tell us.

It is sad that so many will try to twist the words of scriptures to satisfy what their itching ears want to hear.

Blessings,
Dee

 

[precepts]

Wow is right for the scriptures say what they mean and mean what they say! I hope the readers understand that forgiveness comes with repentance.

Luke


The scriptures demonstrate that those who take the mark are far from repentant, even going as far as to curse God. Using the terms 'mark of the beast' and 'forgiveness' in the same sentence is a contradiction. To suggest that someone who takes the mark would ask for or seek forgiveness in order to be forgiven goes against what the scriptures tell us.

It is sad that so many will try to twist the words of scriptures to satisfy what their itching ears want to hear.

Blessings,
Dee

The scripture also says those with the mark are turned into apostles and ministers to decieve:

2Cr 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Cr 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Cr 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

[D4Christ]

The scripture also says those with the mark are turned into apostles and ministers to decieve:

No it doesn't. The scriptures you quoted talk about false and deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ. Nowhere in the passage does it say these people took the mark of the beast (an event that only occurs after the AC has been revealed and given authority to rule for a brief time).

Why are you adding words to the scriptures????

Matthew 7

15 “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. 16 You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act....

Dee

 

[precepts]

D's

The scriptures demonstrate that those who take the mark are far from repentant, even going as far as to curse God.

Where in scripture?


D's

Using the terms 'mark of the beast' and 'forgiveness' in the same sentence is a contradiction. To suggest that someone who takes the mark would ask for or seek forgiveness in order to be forgiven goes against what the scriptures tell us.

When did I suggest such a thing? The point was if the "mark" isn't unforgivable, is it the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit. That's exactly why I wrote what I wrote, to show you that that's what you're doing, twisting my and the bible words.


D's

It is sad that so many will try to twist the words of scriptures to satisfy what their itching ears want to hear.

Like the way you're twisting my words? Unfortunately, I didn't twist scripture, but merely interpreted what you and Christianity have yet to comprehend. The "mark of the Beast" is becoming a "child of the Devil," which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, possessing a familiar spirit, the 6th sense, esp. This was Christ's answer to the Pharisees and Saducces when he was accused of casting out demons by the power of a familiar spirit.

 

[jasoncran]

witchcraft is unforgivable?

wheres that in the bible. i have practiced that, and i dont do that anymore and i knew a few others that did that as well.

if you want to be that way on witchcraft the occult, then dont celebrate even your birthday(pagan beginning and that wish was a spell cast at one time if i'm correct).

 

[precepts]

witchcraft is unforgivable?

wheres that in the bible. i have practiced that, and i dont do that anymore and i knew a few others that did that as well.

if you want to be that way on witchcraft the occult, then dont celebrate even your birthday(pagan beginning and that wish was a spell cast at one time if i'm correct).

I don't use the Egyptian Roman solar Gregorian calendar. I use the original Genesis calendar of 12 months, 30 days. As for possessing a familiar spirit, it is the unforgivable sin, regardless of certain tampered scriptures that try to say otherwise.

2Cr 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Cr 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Cr 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Act 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
Act 13:9 Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
Act 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

 

[Sinthesis]

I don't use the Egyptian Roman solar Gregorian calendar. I use the original Genesis calendar of 12 months, 30 days.

Really? What then is today's date according to the original Genesis calendar of 12 months, 30 days?

 

[precepts]

Really? What then is today's date according to the original Genesis calendar of 12 months, 30 days?

With all due respect, you're not worthy, but here's some information you can use. The 1,260 days, prophecied in Daniel, equals 3 1/2 years or 42 months, if divide by 30 days.

 

[D4Christ]

D's

The scriptures demonstrate that those who take the mark are far from repentant, even going as far as to curse God.

Where in scripture?

I quoted this before but I will restate it again here.
Rev 16

So the first angel left the Temple and poured out his bowl on the earth, and horrible, malignant sores broke out on everyone who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue.
8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, causing it to scorch everyone with its fire. 9 Everyone was burned by this blast of heat, and they cursed the name of God, who had control over all these plagues. They did not repent of their sins and turn to God and give him glory.
10 Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom was plunged into darkness. His subjects ground their teeth in anguish, 11 and they cursed the God of heaven for their pains and sores. But they did not repent of their evil deeds and turn to God.

The scriptures show specifically that those who had the mark, who were hit with the wrath of God, cursed God and did not repent. Scriptures also state that those who belong to this world worshipped the beast and refuse to accept the truth. Because of this disobedience, God allows them to be deceived and beleive the lies of the beast.

Rev 13

8 And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life before the world was made—the Book that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered.13 He did astounding miracles, even making fire flash down to earth from the sky while everyone was watching. 14 And with all the miracles he was allowed to perform on behalf of the first beast, he deceived all the people who belong to this world.

2 Thess 2

9 This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. 10 He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. 11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.

D's

Using the terms 'mark of the beast' and 'forgiveness' in the same sentence is a contradiction. To suggest that someone who takes the mark would ask for or seek forgiveness in order to be forgiven goes against what the scriptures tell us.

When did I suggest such a thing? The point was if the "mark" isn't unforgivable, is it the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit. That's exactly why I wrote what I wrote, to show you that that's what you're doing, twisting my and the bible words.

You suggested this contradiction in your opening post:

The question is, is the mark of the Beast forgivable, and if not, does that make it the unpardonable sin against the holy spirit?

Is the mark forgivable??? But I just showed where those who take the mark, worship the beast and refuse to repent, therefore refusing to seek forgiveness in order to be forgiven. It is a moot point since forgiveness is not being sought in the case of those who take the mark, and whether it could be given is irrelevant.

Btw, you contradict yourself when you wrote,

The point was if the "mark" isn't unforgivable, is it the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit.

Unforgivable means to be unable to pardon for a mistake. Therefore, your sentence is actually reading, "if the "mark" is not unable to be pardonned [unforgivable].....creating a double negative. If the "mark" is NOT unable (to be pardonned), then it means it is able (to be pardonned).

D's

It is sad that so many will try to twist the words of scriptures to satisfy what their itching ears want to hear.

Like the way you're twisting my words? Unfortunately, I didn't twist scripture, but merely interpreted what you and Christianity have yet to comprehend. The "mark of the Beast" is becoming a "child of the Devil," which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, possessing a familiar spirit, the 6th sense, esp. This was Christ's answer to the Pharisees and Saducces when he was accused of casting out demons by the power of a familiar spirit.

You have said taking the mark is becomming a child of the devil, and being a child of the devil is blasphamey against the HS, which is the unforgiveable sin.

1. No where does scriptures state that taking the mark is becoming a child of the devil.
2. Matthew 12 never says that possessing familiar spirits is the same as blasphemy against the HS. If this were true then Acts 16: 16-18 would be false.

Dee