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Dave Slayer
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Is the mark of the beast on it's way to bring doom?
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Dave we are having this disussion in the "Have You Seen Our New Word Currency ??" forum..
I would be greatful if you would participate. It would be nice to hear from other members instead of the same three Preterists.
I would be greatful if you would participate. It would be nice to hear from other members instead of the same three Preterists.
Revelation 13: 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
What is the mark;;
What is the beast?
What is the 144,000
Buy or sell what?
Mark: it the mark; it spiritual or symbolic; seeing Revelation is the most symbolic spiritual book in the Bible; I see it as spiritual mark; and not literal. Right hand speaks of what you do, your forehead speaks of what you think. These verses are so pregnant with hidden spiritual meaning.
Beast: The beast is our carnal earthy nature, Hitler had it, so did George Washington and so do you and I. It is our fleshly mind; our intellect our human reasoning.
144,000: The JW love this concept tell their numbers got larger then144,000 then they had to change their doctrine. Twelve is a very spiritual number that is used all thought out the Bible and I do not think I could even begin to express how often it is used; BUT there is a spiritual pattern which I see as God’s Divine Government [12 Tribes, 12 Disciples, 12 apostles, 12 Gates of Jerusalem
144 (12x12=144) 12 is the perfect number, representing Devine perfection in the government in the kingdom of God
Buy or sell; does this have to do with money, or world government finances; or could their be something very spiritual.
Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Revelations is a book of symbolism; and is not literal. Yes there are literal Churches or assemblies; but there is a deep spiritual hidden message under the surface. Look closely at that first chapter and there are all kinds of foundations that establish revelations in this context. Many brother’s in the Lord try to spiritualize one part of Revelations, and then they will literalize another section when it fits their understanding; I see it totally as a spiritual book even when I am unsure of some of its meaning. Book of Revelations is the Revelation’s of Jesus Christ with in us; not without.
Revelations 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
This one little word is so reverent to the whole book Revelations; ‘signified†or signs and symbols. The Book Revelations can only be understood not as a book of prophecy, or literally; but as a very deep and awesome spiritual book by using signs and symbols that can only be found in the Bible.
I truly believe God’s Word is hidden for many reasons; that is why there are so many creed, religion and understandings in the Bible. Man can change meaning to scriptures in translation but the symbolism of scripture has an unchangeableness where religious unspiritual carnal men did not see or perceive; so they could not touch its deeper meaning
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
What is the mark;;
What is the beast?
What is the 144,000
Buy or sell what?
Mark: it the mark; it spiritual or symbolic; seeing Revelation is the most symbolic spiritual book in the Bible; I see it as spiritual mark; and not literal. Right hand speaks of what you do, your forehead speaks of what you think. These verses are so pregnant with hidden spiritual meaning.
Beast: The beast is our carnal earthy nature, Hitler had it, so did George Washington and so do you and I. It is our fleshly mind; our intellect our human reasoning.
144,000: The JW love this concept tell their numbers got larger then144,000 then they had to change their doctrine. Twelve is a very spiritual number that is used all thought out the Bible and I do not think I could even begin to express how often it is used; BUT there is a spiritual pattern which I see as God’s Divine Government [12 Tribes, 12 Disciples, 12 apostles, 12 Gates of Jerusalem
144 (12x12=144) 12 is the perfect number, representing Devine perfection in the government in the kingdom of God
Buy or sell; does this have to do with money, or world government finances; or could their be something very spiritual.
Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Revelations is a book of symbolism; and is not literal. Yes there are literal Churches or assemblies; but there is a deep spiritual hidden message under the surface. Look closely at that first chapter and there are all kinds of foundations that establish revelations in this context. Many brother’s in the Lord try to spiritualize one part of Revelations, and then they will literalize another section when it fits their understanding; I see it totally as a spiritual book even when I am unsure of some of its meaning. Book of Revelations is the Revelation’s of Jesus Christ with in us; not without.
Revelations 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
This one little word is so reverent to the whole book Revelations; ‘signified†or signs and symbols. The Book Revelations can only be understood not as a book of prophecy, or literally; but as a very deep and awesome spiritual book by using signs and symbols that can only be found in the Bible.
I truly believe God’s Word is hidden for many reasons; that is why there are so many creed, religion and understandings in the Bible. Man can change meaning to scriptures in translation but the symbolism of scripture has an unchangeableness where religious unspiritual carnal men did not see or perceive; so they could not touch its deeper meaning