is there a distiction between appearing and coming?

[kingdavid]

I'll go with the rocket theory.



"The fact is, this cloud is not a vapor cloud at all. It is a cloud of smoke and the remains of rocket fuel from a Thor rocket that had been launched the afternood of 2/28/1963 at 1:52PST at Vandenburg, California. The rocket was blown up at 147,000 feet because of a malfunction. At this height there was a west to east wind blowing around 130mph. The smoke from the explosion formed the circle shaped cloud. The jet stream winds carried the cloud due east from Vandenburg toward Flagstaff, Arizona. Because of some lower clouds this one was not observed in Arizona until around sunset. The cloud remained sunlit for 28 minutes after official sundown in Flagstall. Giving account for the curvature of the earth and it being seen as far away as Elpasso, Texas it was estimated to be 140,000-147,000 feet high exactly on the same level as the smoke and vaporized rocket fuel of the destroyed Thor rocket."

this cloud was observed over flagstaff all day and did not move and no other clouds were present.

you say your cloud was moving with winds of 130 mph in the jet stream and then mysteriously just decided to stop and hover over flagstaff? that would make that an even greater miracle then. that is hogwash. plus, it stated in the article that the rocket was on march 28. the cloud in life magazine was captured on feb 28th and published in Life magazine may 17th.

as i stated earlier, the scientist mr. mcdonald researching this photograph found no evidence of rockets or bombs being tested. the space shuttle exploded at a similar altitude and you didn't see a cloud lingering all day long from the burning of fuel or that did not show evidence of burning fuel. much less carry a cloud hundreds of miles without dissipating or diminishing.

 

[kingdavid]

bro branham did say in the vision that he thought he saw five angels but corrected it in a later sermon that it could have been seven angels. it turned out to be seven angels. so no discrepancy exists as the minister boasts in the article on the number of angels in the vision


55 I didn't see the lightning. I just heard that great blast that went forth that sounded like it was south from me, towards Mexico. But it shook the earth, and when it did, I was still looking westward. And way off into eternity I saw a constellation of something coming. It looked like that it might've been little dots. There could've been no less than five, and not more than seven. But they were in the shape of a pyramid, like these messengers coming. And when it did, the power of Almighty God lifted me up to meet them. And I can see it. I... It's never left me. Eight days is gone, and I can't forget it yet. I never had anything to bother me like that has. My family will tell you. I could see those Angels, those shaped-back wings traveling faster than sound could travel. They come from eternity in a split like a twinkling of an eye, not enough to bat your eye, just a twinkle. They were there. I didn't have time to count. I didn't have time, no more than just look. Mighty ones, great powerful Angels, snow white, wings set in head, and they were "whew wheeew," and when it did, I was caught up into this pyramid of constellation. And I thought, "Now, this is it."
IS_THIS_THE_SIGN_OF_THE_END_SIR JEFF_IN 12-30-62 Evening

 

[Shilohsfoal]

David
The man appears to be an older version of benny hinn.
I really have no reason to believe anything he says and he doesnt seem to understand scripture very well.His attack on denominations only seems to be a way to get people to follow him ,insted of going to other churches.His interpretations of prophecy are probably one of the worst ive ever seen.
If your happy following the man then Im sure you will continue to follow him but dont expect everyone to do the same.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

"Sinthesis"

Right you are. But if you look closely you might see Jesus blowing up Thor. :biglol

Here are a couple of links:
http://www.cephas-library.com/evangelists/evangelists_branham_1.html

http://people.delphiforums.com/JohnK63/Attraction.htm

http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/...=0&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES

http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/...=1&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES

I guess Im just not one of those special people that can see Jesus in that cloud.

 

[kingdavid]

"Sinthesis"

Right you are. But if you look closely you might see Jesus blowing up Thor. :biglol

Here are a couple of links:
http://www.cephas-library.com/evangelists/evangelists_branham_1.html

http://people.delphiforums.com/JohnK63/Attraction.htm

http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/...=0&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES

http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/...=1&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES

I guess Im just not one of those special people that can see Jesus in that cloud.

that was the sign that jesus told his disciples of when he came. that an aduterous generation seeketh signs but they would be given a sign of the Son of Man being lifted up. that was the sign of the Son of Man being lifted up as prochecied to an adulterous generation and modern day sodom and gomorah

 

[Shilohsfoal]

"kingdavid"
that was the sign that jesus told his disciples of when he came. that an aduterous generation seeketh signs but they would be given a sign of the Son of Man being lifted up. that was the sign of the Son of Man being lifted up as prochecied to an adulterous generation and modern day sodom and gomorah

I think we need to install padded walls in this forum.

 

[Vic C.]

I think we need to install padded walls in this forum.

:biglol That's an understatement!

David
The man appears to be an older version of benny hinn.
I really have no reason to believe anything he says and he doesnt seem to understand scripture very well.His attack on denominations only seems to be a way to get people to follow him ,insted of going to other churches.His interpretations of prophecy are probably one of the worst ive ever seen.
If your happy following the man then Im sure you will continue to follow him but dont expect everyone to do the same.

Yup, a basic search and perusing of some of his quotes had me wondering if he 100% ok in the "upper room"

nope, wrong again. the scientist questioning this photo looked and questioned the military and other government agencies to see if they were flights that may have been testing or explosives that day and all answers were negatory.

I don't trust them to admit to anything.

chemtrails don't make a closed loop

They do if the jet in question flew in a circle.

Anyway, we are getting WAY off topic here. Someone want to take another stab at this?

is there a distinction between appearing and coming?

 

[Joe67]

Anyway, we are getting WAY off topic here. Someone want to take another stab at this?

is there a distinction between appearing and coming?

Vic,

I believe Cornelius started a thread that was similar, a few months past.

Joe

 

[Vic C.]

I believe he did, Joe. I'll bump it up if I come across it.

But I want to post this in the meantime. I wasn't even looking for it when I stumbled upon this:

http://jesus-messiah.com/html/cloud-hoax.html

 

[kingdavid]

I believe he did, Joe. I'll bump it up if I come across it.

But I want to post this in the meantime. I wasn't even looking for it when I stumbled upon this:

http://jesus-messiah.com/html/cloud-hoax.html

a guy already posted that previously so you didn't just stumble upon it. it is basically the same article accessed thru a different portal

 

[kingdavid]

this cloud was observed over flagstaff all day and did not move and no other clouds were present.

you say your cloud was moving with winds of 130 mph in the jet stream and then mysteriously just decided to stop and hover over flagstaff? that would make that an even greater miracle then. that is hogwash. plus, it stated in the article that the rocket was on march 28. the cloud in life magazine was captured on feb 28th and published in Life magazine may 17th.

as i stated earlier, the scientist mr. mcdonald researching this photograph found no evidence of rockets or bombs being tested. the space shuttle exploded at a similar altitude and you didn't see a cloud lingering all day long from the burning of fuel or that did not show evidence of burning fuel. much less carry a cloud hundreds of miles without dissipating or diminishing.[/quote]

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this reckart guy is just a jealous liar. you can write to any miltary government agency and they will confirm that no rocket or nothing was detonated or exploded on the day of this photograph.

you don't have to have to have winds going from east to west when it is not a natural cloud to begin with. it is 7 angels according to bro. branham's vision he had 6 months earlier and dispersing back into eternity, revealing the Lord jesus christ. as the scripture states, to you who are troubled, rest with us when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his might angels...all seven of them. it is the sign of the Son of Man to this adulterous generation that was prohecied to come