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When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
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elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
Agreed. That's how a lot of cults start.mdo757 said:It is extremely rare for God to share things that are not written in scripture. As a matter of fact there is scripture somewhere that says we should not go beyond what is written. I presume that was said to prevent confusion or the Elect from being mislead.
are you talking about spiritual matters, if so, He can not contradict Himself, what He teaches has to be agree with the Word, He can not go against Himself. but if you are talking about worldy things, such as how to build a home, He will give you the skills and talents to do so. which one are you asking about?elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
Geo said:" Should you put your trust in a thing?"
Well if that "thing" is His word, yes you should. It is not about the packaging, it's the essence of the content.
Romans 10:17 Â So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
"The bible is very beneficial for instruction and knowledge when properly used."
It's actually more than that, these words are spirit and are life:
John 6:63 Â It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
and they are a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart:
Hebrews 4:12 Â For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
To the original question of knowledge beyond the Bible, everything MUST be tested and discerned in the light of Scripture. This is because there is an ocean full of "knowledge" and a good percentage of it has the purpose to deceive the saints. The extreme case is if someone declares that "God has told me that...." and the essence of the message speaks not only against what Jesus said but absolutely the opposite of it. Then we are faced with a choice, and that is whom to believe, the God of the Bible or the "god of the voice we heard". This is no simple matter, because there are many people that claim to have received higher revelation that is not compatible with the real gospel. And the sad thing is they do not know that they're deceived. Because they trust the "live experience" more than the everlasting word. Counterfeits can be so good that you would not know that they are counterfeits without an absolute authority. And God is God, and does not change. Neither does His word. So, yes we can trust in that and sould evalute everthing beyond based on that.
hi Adullam, i kind of see what you are saying, the Bible is misused, etc, in that sense when you are not reading the Word through the Spirit and sincerely seeking His guidance. we have put our trust in man's teaching of the Bible and that teaching could be false.Adullam said:The word testifies of the Spirit. It is only the Spirit that guides into all truth. There is too much confusion over the word. The bible is the most misused book in the world. The reprobate church has replaced the Spirit of God with a written book, or angels or any other created thing. The lie is the trust we put in created things. We would rather worship a created thing than walk in heavenly power as a true disciple of Christ. Can you say...golden calf!?
elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
The Philadelphia Eagles might not be in the scriptures, but there is evidence that God is a Penn State fan. Did you notice even the sky is blue and white!Dude named Louis said:elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
I can say with absolute certainty that the answer to the thread title is "YES". There is knowledge beyond the bible. The Bible for instance doesn't speak at all of microwave ovens, Google, The Philadelphia Eagles (sigh...).
mondar said:The Philadelphia Eagles might not be in the scriptures, but there is evidence that God is a Penn State fan. Did you notice even the sky is blue and white!Dude named Louis said:elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
I can say with absolute certainty that the answer to the thread title is "YES". There is knowledge beyond the bible. The Bible for instance doesn't speak at all of microwave ovens, Google, The Philadelphia Eagles (sigh...).
I assume you are speaking of things such as subjective experience, wisdom, or some special illumination about a subject?elijah23 said:When we develop a personal relationship with the Lord, does he teach us things that cannot be found in the Bible?
handy said:This is where the Berean call comes in. I will listen to anyone who is bringing forth a teaching, from God, about subjects that aren't necessarily mentioned in the Scriptures. But, then I will examine what they are saying in the light of the Scriptures. If they are truly speaking from God, then the Scriptures will bear out the truth of what they are saying. If not, then I won't hold their teaching as from God, even if there is a certain amount of wisdom to it.
Take for instance the issue of abortion. Now abortion isn't spoken of in the Scriptures, not the surgical removal of a very young fetus. Because abortion isn't mentioned in the Scriptures, some have tried to teach that it's OK. They even give examples like Exodus 21:22-23 and Eccl 6:3-5 as examples that God is OK with abortion. However, when I examine the whole counsel of Scriptures, I find that those "proof texts" do not hold water when it comes a mother intentionally killing her unborn baby, and a wealth of Scripture that supports life, including the worth of the life of the unborn. So, I reject the teaching that abortion is OK.
Now, keep in mind, the abortion thing was just an example OK. I know abortion is a heated topic and we don't want to derail the thread. The topic at hand is whether or not God teaches things that are not in the Bible. I think He does, but I cannot think of any substantive issue (microwave ovens not being particularly substantive) that, while not specifically mentioned in the Scriptures, wouldn't have foundational principles laid out.
Benoni said:I am not a supporter of abortion, by no means but it is far too political and there is no mention of abortion in God's Word. It is a religious agenda.
DarcyLu said:hi Adullam, i kind of see what you are saying, the Bible is misused, etc, in that sense when you are not reading the Word through the Spirit and sincerely seeking His guidance. we have put our trust in man's teaching of the Bible and that teaching could be false.Adullam said:The word testifies of the Spirit. It is only the Spirit that guides into all truth. There is too much confusion over the word. The bible is the most misused book in the world. The reprobate church has replaced the Spirit of God with a written book, or angels or any other created thing. The lie is the trust we put in created things. We would rather worship a created thing than walk in heavenly power as a true disciple of Christ. Can you say...golden calf!?
on the other hand, the Word of God is Jesus come in the flesh, when you are in the Word, you are, in fact, in Jesus. you are calling the Word of God a "thing", it is not a thing, it is a sacred, inspired Word of God, they are His thoughts, He speaks to us through His Word. of course, we can not always be reading the Word, but we can always be in the Word by walking in His Spirit.