Is this Divinely Inspired / or Divinely Retarded?

[Orthodox Christian]

Are you avoiding the topic, Gary? Please post my comments about the truth contained in the "Gita." :smt035

 

[Gary]

OC, have you or have you not read the Gita?

Secondly, you claimed "....I see the ultimate and final expression of Truth and He who is Truth within the Gospel- but I see great truths everywhere."
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 691#192691

By logical deduction, IF you had ever read the Gita, you would have found "great truths" there as well.

So stop ducking the issue.... have you or have you not found "great truths" in the Gita?

:D

 

[Gary]

P.S. The topic was "Is this Divinely Inspired / or Divinely Retarded?"

Why not stay on topic?

What do YOU say it is?

:wink:

 

[Orthodox Christian]

Why don't you show me where I specifically stated that I found truth "in Gita

You haven't done this yet, have ye, Gary?
I take this as a tacit admission on your part that you have mispoken (I won't introduce the phrase 'been pwned')

Ach.

Last time we discovered you had not even read the Quran nor even understood what was in the Hadith

You discovered what I plainly stated- I have not read the Koran, nor will I likely do so.

But I am still interested in what "truth" OC found in the Gita.

I have read a translation of the Bhagavad Gita. I found this truth

The mode of passion is born of unlimited desires and longings, O son of Kunti, and because of this the embodied living entity is bound to material fruitive actions.

This is reminscent of Paul's commentary on the advantages of being single, so as to not be absorbed in the world and pleasing one's spouse.

Einstein even uncovered the truth of E=MC(2)

This is not a truth, Gary, it is a relationship. It is a mathematical formula. It cannot even be labeled a constant, due to the apparent deceleration of C (speed of light) over time.
http://www.ldolphin.org/constc.shtml

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[Orthodox Christian]

P.S. The topic was "Is this Divinely Inspired / or Divinely Retarded?"

My answer is neither. I believe that this is man's wisdom, which actually is pretty lofty at times.

But God's foolishness is greater than the wisdom of men. I believe God's wisdom is found specifically in the recorded teachings of Christ, especially the Sermon on the Mount.

One will find many threads running between other religions and the Sermon on the Mount- but the Gospel is the pinnacle of Truth, in my estimation. I have read widely in philosophy and literature, but I have never seen anything that captured the transcendant wisdom of Christ.

Hence, the Anointed One.

Christ's teaching is authorative and binding, whereas the teachings of other religions are not. We will all stand before Him, not before Swami so and so. But if we think that adherence to some interpretation of the bible will save us, we are further from the truth than a Hindu who believes rightly that it is only God who saves- books do not save.

 

[Gary]

14:7
The mode of passion is born of unlimited desires and longings, O son of Kunti, and because of this the embodied living entity is bound to material fruitive actions.

Such a "great truth" deserves its twin...

14:15
When one dies in the mode of passion, he takes birth among those engaged in fruitive activities; and when one dies in the mode of ignorance, he takes birth in the animal kingdom.

:roll:

Find any others? I understand from you that they are "everywhere."

:D

 

[Gary]

One will find many threads running between other religions and the Sermon on the Mount.....

Really? Enlighten us. For instance, where in the Quran would you find the "Golden Rule"?

Why not give us a few other examples of similarities between Jesus' teaching in the Sermon on the Mount and what Muhammad taught.

What about "Love your enemies"..... a "thread" like that running through the Quran?

Try this....

O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for allies. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am Best Aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim? And whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way.
Source: Sura 60:1

:wink:

 

[DivineNames]

You don't agree with the bible.

God is not "in" everyone and everything...

Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. (KJV)

Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being (KJV)


What do these verses mean?

 

[Soma-Sight]

Hey come on Gary, have YOU read the Gita?

I think the only person here that has is Divine Names.

The Golden rule can be found in many different forms in the Gita and is expressed in many unique ways.....

At any rate I am glad you guys are willing to discuss this matter with an open mind......

Instead of the classic ignorance of proclaiming anything outside the Bible to be demon fodder.....

You are not forsaking Christ by finding Truth in science....

or the verses of the Gita for that matter!

 

[DivineNames]

... and OC claims to have found truth in the Gita. Why not show us what truth you found there OC?

Reincarnation is a possible truth for a start. Or can you prove it false?

 

[Orthodox Christian]

One will find many threads running between other religions and the Sermon on the Mount.....

Really? Enlighten us. For instance, where in the Quran would you find the "Golden Rule"?

Why not give us a few other examples of similarities between Jesus' teaching in the Sermon on the Mount and what Muhammad taught.

What about "Love your enemies"..... a "thread" like that running through the Quran?

Try this....

O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for allies. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am Best Aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim? And whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way.
Source: Sura 60:1

:wink:

A better question, Gary, would be "where else do you find an earlier reference to the so-called 'golden rule.'" I'll give you a hint- it wasn't in Judaism.

Enlighten us.

I get a real kick out of the way that certain of you use the term 'us:'- specifically, you and CJ.
You have some kind of hive going?

Or is this just for dramatic impact?

By logical deduction, IF you had ever read the Gita, you would have found "great truths" there as well.

"By logical deduction"
LOL
almost the same as "you said"
only different

Now again, Gar bear, from your shaky fingers to the interwurb- did I or did I not specifically mention "the Gita" as having "great truths."
Hmm?

 

[bibleberean]

... and OC claims to have found truth in the Gita. Why not show us what truth you found there OC?

Reincarnation is a possible truth for a start. Or can you prove it false?

Reincarnation is not a possible truth for a Christian.

Christians believe the bible is the word of God by faith...

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

I didn't see God create the world in six days but I believe it by faith.

I don't believe in reincarnation because the bible doesn't teach it....

This is a Christian forum and Christians are under no obligation to the heathen to "prove" anything...

You have a Choice.

To believe or not to believe.

 

[Gary]

One will find many threads running between other religions and the Sermon on the Mount.....

Really? Enlighten us. (1) For instance, where in the Quran would you find the "Golden Rule"?

(2) Why not give us a few other examples of similarities between Jesus' teaching in the Sermon on the Mount and what Muhammad taught.

(3) What about "Love your enemies"..... a "thread" like that running through the Quran?

Still having trouble answering these? So do most Muslims.....

:wink:

 

[Orthodox Christian]

One will find many threads running between other religions and the Sermon on the Mount.....

Really? Enlighten us. (1) For instance, where in the Quran would you find the "Golden Rule"?

(2) Why not give us a few other examples of similarities between Jesus' teaching in the Sermon on the Mount and what Muhammad taught.

(3) What about "Love your enemies"..... a "thread" like that running through the Quran?

Still having trouble answering these? So do most Muslims.....

:wink:

Gary- don't you remember your words to me earlier today?

P.S. The topic was "Is this Divinely Inspired / or Divinely Retarded?"

Why not stay on topic?

/pwned by your own words-
Why not stay on topic, Gary?

:

 

[Gary]

So you can't even defend/substantiate your own diversion.

I thought so.

 

[aiki]

OC:

You wrote:

Now again, Gar bear, from your shaky fingers to the interwurb- did I or did I not specifically mention "the Gita" as having "great truths."
Hmm?

Gary has you pinned, OC. If I can see this, you can bet others do, too. None of your slippery attempts to deflect Gary's point can obscure the fact that the word "everywhere" that you used necessarily includes the Gita.

In Christ, Aiki.

 

[Orthodox Christian]

OC:

You wrote:

Now again, Gar bear, from your shaky fingers to the interwurb- did I or did I not specifically mention "the Gita" as having "great truths."
Hmm?

Gary has you pinned, OC. If I can see this, you can bet others do, too. None of your slippery attempts to deflect Gary's point can obscure the fact that the word "everywhere" that you used necessarily includes the Gita.

In Christ, Aiki.

Put down the pom-poms, Aiki, you shameless sycophant. I've already answered that yesterday- on this thread.

But I am still interested in what "truth" OC found in the Gita.

I have read a translation of the Bhagavad Gita. I found this truth

Chapter 14, text 7:
The mode of passion is born of unlimited desires and longings, O son of Kunti, and because of this the embodied living entity is bound to material fruitive actions.

This is reminscent of Paul's commentary on the advantages of being single, so as to not be absorbed in the world and pleasing one's spouse.

Now you're pwned also. Anything else?.

 

[Orthodox Christian]

So you can't even defend/substantiate your own diversion.

I thought so.

Actually, Gary, the Islam diversion is yours.
Go back and look at the tape.

While you're at it, go back and show me where I said that every truth contained in the Sermon on the Mount is found in every religion. A "thread" is not the whole cloth, now is it Gary.

This bears repeating:

Christ's teaching is authorative and binding, whereas the teachings of other religions are not. We will all stand before Him, not before Swami so and so. But if we think that adherence to some interpretation of the bible will save us, we are further from the truth than a Hindu who believes rightly that it is only God who saves- books do not save.

Now why don't you answer Soma's question, Gary: Have YOU read the B.V.?

 

[Khaine]

I don't believe in reincarnation because the bible doesn't teach it....

The Bible does not teach about, or even mention, Madagascar. However, having been there, I can tell you that it is real.

 

[Gary]

So which "thread" in the of the Sermon on the Mount is found in the Quran?

Care to highlight any "threads" from the Gita found in the Sermon on the Mount?