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ISLAM IN THE WORLD

Why would anyone want a religion with no relationship with God no eternal future no eternal life no heaven. I read an article yesterday no link needed because its a known fact, when Muslims invade a country the killing doesn't stop until all resistance is eliminated.. Why? Satan makes promises he can't keep because he's a liar, he leaves a trail of murder and mayhem in his wake. How did that tune go there is none so blind than he that cannot see..

tob
 
Kaliani said:
Mr Haji's family is receiving threats from al-Shabaab. His brother is a counter-terrorism officer whose cover was blown. Yikes! Read about that here

His father, former Defence Minister Yusuf Haji, signed an agreement with Somalia's Defence Minister to collaborate against al-Shabaab.
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For every one of the Muslims in the world that defend against the barbaric horde there are 10,000 who "collaborate" with the murderous, evil Islamists. I feel for this man, and his brother! If they get any support from anyone it'll be a wonder. This world has become satan's playground and those who oppose him feel his wrath. Even so, Lord Jesus, come quickly!
 
turnorburn said:
Why would anyone want a religion with no relationship with God no eternal future no eternal life no heaven.
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Exactly, tob. And no God either. Not the One true God. A "god" who deceives his followers at every turn, teaches them to hate, steal, kill, destroy others at that. Who could that be but satan? Who IS no god at all but a lying trickster. A murderer from the beginning.
 
You can't say "Muslims" with no qualification, tob, and not insult the man in the above picture. He's a Muslim too.

So are the Ahmadi Muslims who believe that God sent Jesus to condemn bloodshed and fanatical beliefs and practices.

Believe that the coming into existence of the state of Israel is in accord with the Quran.

Shimon Perez attended a Ramadhan dinner on the invitation of the Head of the Israeli Ahmadiyya Community, where he spoke well of the community.

Not all Muslims are jihadists.
 
Kaliani said
Not all Muslims are jihadists.
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And i agree but all Muslims are without God eternal life and salvation..

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

tob
 
turnorburn said:
all Muslims are without God eternal life and salvation..

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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I'm all for them coming to the Father through Jesus. Yet who's going to bring them to Jesus while we're nursing our rage and moral superiority and ignorance of them?

That was the essence of Jonah's sin, I believe.
 
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

tob
 
Kaliani said:
turnorburn said:
all Muslims are without God eternal life and salvation..

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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I'm all for them coming to the Father through Jesus. Yet who's going to bring them to Jesus while we're nursing our rage and moral superiority and ignorance of them?

That was the essence of Jonah's sin, I believe.
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And the message of Jonah's story is that God is sovereign, and God will save whom He will save. Man's opinion is irrelevant.
 
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the world was till now flooded with tendency of false faith, many believers around the world hurried to follow one or another creed either after their liking or because of compulsion, but there is a need of right orientation in the faith, because there is only one true God, as well as only one true God's Word, and there accordingly is (also) a right faith which deliberately begins e.g. with the seeking of That Who really is the true God by invocation considering that the faithfulness is very important, so the faith is not an entertainment, but it is a show of pure love for all humans/souls unto abundant and everlasting life in the true Lord God, because Jesus Christ is the only visible appearance of the true God Father Who no one ever saw - that is why they the Two are the Lord God, or in more compact form, just the true God

Matthew 7:7-12 "Ask(viz. ask the true Lord God to provide the humans with the good things which they need according to His Will), and it shall be given you(i.e. and He will provide them); seek(viz. invoke That Who really is the true Lord God), and ye shall find(i.e. and He will come); knock(viz. solicit/insist for the true Lord God and His Good things which He prepared to give to the unprovided people), and it shall be opened unto you(i.e. and He will come and provide them much sooner than otherwise): For every one that asketh(viz. because everyone that wants the Good things from the true Lord God according to His Will) receiveth; and he that seeketh(viz. and every one who invokes That Who really is the true Lord God) findeth; and to him that knocketh(viz. and to that who solicits/insists for the true Lord God and His Good things) it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

so some people thought that the available/popular religion/spirituality is enough, but here is how the faith is a matter of faithfulness to That Who really is the true God

Blessings
 
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Kaliani said:
Not all Muslims are jihadists.
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Kaliani, they may not all be active in waging war on non-Muslims, but they are all lost and deceived. Plus they persecute those who believe in Jesus.

Jesus said clearly, "“But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven." (Mat 10:33) and Luke 12:9 "But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God." In 1 John 2:22-23, the writer says "Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antiChrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."

However "nice" and "non-violent" they may be, they are antiChrist. There are only two who may be served. One is God, the other is satan. Consequently Muslims serve satan. No one can have God without recognizing the Son of God, Jesus the Christ. That goes for Jews who do not believe in Him, Hindus who serve their "gods", whoever does not believe in Jesus.

By their own tenets, Muslims deny Jesus is the Son of God, let alone confessing He is God. Rev 19:13 says "He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God" and John 1:1 agrees saying "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
 
Kaliani said:
we're nursing our rage and moral superiority and ignorance of them?
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What "rage and moral superiority and ignorance" are you referring to, Kaliani? Our warfare, the Bible tells us, is not with "flesh and blood but principalities and powers in high places" (Eph 6:12). I am outraged by the behavior of those of the "peaceful religion"; I am angered by the persecution of my brothers and sisters, but if I am in dialogue with individual Muslims, I do not act on that outraged anger by lashing out at them. There is mercy in Jesus, and therefore in those of us who believe in Him.

This thread is not populated by Muslims; it is an information board for those who wish to know what the Islamists are doing. Hopefully it brings those of us who are saved to prayer for the ones being persecuted as well as for those who persecute us that they will be saved. And not only Christians are being persecuted but all those who are being murdered by the satanic cult's members because they will not convert to Islam.

We are told in the Christian Bible to "resist the devil". Not to cave in to his whims and doings. Submission to God DOES NOT mean we must lay our bodies in the streets for those who hate us to walk over! Nor to allow the haters to persecute us! Jesus said it for us, "No one takes My life, I lay it down (John 1 :18)! He died for the sins of the world so that we who believe in Him don't have to die whether from murderous persecution or any other form of death. (John 11:26) "Believest thou this", Kailani?
 
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tessiewebb said:
I feel for this man, and his brother! If they get any support from anyone it'll be a wonder.
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On the contrary, this much-beloved son of Kenya better not get so much as a splinter now. I think the uproar would be terrible, deafening.
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Not if the Islamists have anything to say about it. Especially since his brother "collaborated" against "Al-Shabaab" whoever and whatever that might be.
 
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