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Jail For Medical Care

Lewis

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Man robs bank to get medical care in jail

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Some people who need medical care but can't afford it go to the emergency room. Others just hope they'll get better. James Richard Verone robbed a bank.
Earlier this month, Verone (pictured), a 59-year-old convenience store clerk, walked into a Gaston, N.C., bank and handed the cashier a note demanding $1 and medical attention. Then he waited calmly for police to show up.
He's now in jail and has an appointment with a doctor this week.
Verone's problems started when he lost the job he'd held for 17 years as a Coca Cola deliveryman, amid the economic downturn. He found new work driving a truck, but it didn't last. Eventually, he took a part-time position at the convenience store.
But Verone's body wasn't up to it. The bending and lifting made his back ache. He had problems with his left foot, making him limp. He also suffered from carpal tunnel syndrome and arthritis.
Then he noticed a protrusion on his chest. "The pain was beyond the tolerance that I could accept," Verone told the Gaston Gazette. "I kind of hit a brick wall with everything."
Verone knew he needed help--and he didn't want to be a burden on his sister and brothers. He applied for food stamps, but they weren't enough either.
So he hatched a plan. On June 9, he woke up, showered, ironed his shirt. He mailed a letter to the Gazette, listing the return address as the Gaston County Jail.
"When you receive this a bank robbery will have been committed by me," Verone wrote in the letter. "This robbery is being committed by me for one dollar. I am of sound mind but not so much sound body."
Then Verone hailed a cab to take him to the RBC Bank. Inside, he handed the teller his $1 robbery demand.
"I didn't have any fears," said Verone. "I told the teller that I would sit over here and wait for police."
The teller was so frightened that she had to be taken to the hospital to be checked out. Verone, meanwhile, was taken to jail, just as he'd planned it.
Because he only asked for $1, Verone was charged with larceny, not bank robbery. But he said that if his punishment isn't severe enough, he plans to tell the judge that he'll do it again. His $100,000 bond has been reduced to $2,000, but he says he doesn't plan to pay it.
In jail, Verone said he skips dinner to avoid too much contact with the other inmates. He's already seen some nurses and is scheduled to see a doctor on Friday. He said he's hoping to receive back and foot surgery, and get the protrusion on his chest treated. Then he plans to spend a few years in jail, before getting out in time to collect Social Security and move to the beach.
Verone also presented the view that if the United States had a health-care system which offered people more government support, he wouldn't have had to make the choice he did.
"If you don't have your health you don't have anything," Verone said.
The Affordable Care Act, President Obama's health-care overhaul passed by Congress last year, was designed to make it easier for Americans in situations like Verone's to get health insurance. But most of its provisions don't go into effect until 2014.
As it is, Verone said he thinks he chose the best of a bunch of bad options. "I picked jail."
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That was stupid of him. Just walk into an emergency room and they can't refuse you for lack of insurance. Lord knows when my kid broke bones, he had to wait in line behind kids with just sniffles brought by their parents that you know did not have any insurance. But we were well insured and waited IMO with a more serious situation. So it should work for him without getting the police record.
 
Yeah he could have did that Tim, and then he would have got hit with a bill that is out of this world. And if he had to be sent to a specialist, he could not see him without any insurance or money.
 
First a word-usage note. He is not in JAIL he is in PRISON. Jail is for those who are charged with a misdemeanor (less than 1 year). Prison is for those who are charged with a felony (more than 1 year). Entire article was using the word "jail" when he is is "prison". Kind of bugged me. :D

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Waiting for the "that poor man"-type remarks...

Doesn't matter his reasoning he broke the law. He was stupid. There are better ways to get medical help. Wonder if he knows that statistically he is more likely to increase his sentence than to get out on parole...
 
That was stupid of him. Just walk into an emergency room and they can't refuse you for lack of insurance. Lord knows when my kid broke bones, he had to wait in line behind kids with just sniffles brought by their parents that you know did not have any insurance. But we were well insured and waited IMO with a more serious situation. So it should work for him without getting the police record.

Reread your post and then reread it again.
Then look in the mirror.
Then imagine Jesus standing behind you.
Is your world so different that you do not even know about these things?
You have no idea what it means to not have insurance.
Kids with just sniffles.
 
Yup they are obligated to treat him and he isn't obligated to give them his billing or even his personal information. What a fool.

Obligated to do only the VERY LEAST amount of treatment to sustain his life.
Nothing more.
 
They would perform only life saving surgeries chronic conditions like those he would be ignored.
 
Obligated to do only the VERY LEAST amount of treatment to sustain his life.
Nothing more.


lovely. so i am hungry, i get to kill a man for food that makes it ok? its sad that he was in that situation but the law is the law.

look my step-daughter had emergency surgery on a tube that is from a doctor err 30 plus yrs ago and its always there. she has shunt from her head to relieve the fluid build up. it broke and she had it replace it cost the state 200k. she has a bill to pay but she is alive.

dont think the goverment wont ration?they do. i know, i have seen an article yesterday in the new york times on a disable vet who cant work as he lost his right leg and it awaiting va disablitly pay. FIVE yrs after his prothesis.i glanced it and it didnt say if he any way of being retrained for new type of work.

so if the govt cant take of vets, surely they will break their promises elsewhere. this is nothing new to me.i dont trust any promises for the us. govt till i have it in hand.
 
This post was not about killing or hunger.
its the same thing in god's eyes. stealing is sin without respect to circumstances. nowhere in the ot or nt is one to steal for this, instead we ought to look to god.btw i used to steal and convive because i felt that i needed something as i was poor and they were richer. it was never about large amounts of money just enough to get by.

yet when i become a christian that stopped. it took a year to get the bad influence out of my life.
here in florida he would be treated. my stepdaughter was treated in north carolina on the goverment.

you also will find that rich or those that werent widowed were to allow gleaning by the poor, the fatherless and widows. interesting command in leviticus. that is in fact what ruth and naomi were doing when they met hebrew man who later married ruth as he redeemed her land and her husbands seed.
 
its the same thing

It is not the same thing, Jason.
Again, look in the mirror and behind you.
Do you also have ANY idea what it is like to live with no medical insurance?
Do you REALLY know what it is like to look a doctor in the eye and say that you can not afford the next test?
Have you ever went to the emergency room with no insurance?
 
It is not the same thing, Jason.
Again, look in the mirror and behind you.
Do you also have ANY idea what it is like to live with no medical insurance?
Do you REALLY know what it is like to look a doctor in the eye and say that you can not afford the next test?
Have you ever went to the emergency room with no insurance?
yes i have!not once but twice.all minor but were treated, look , my wife is disabled and has had a times no medicine yet our doctor donated her meds from samples and also we went to the church and also went to medicaid. there was no stealing needed.

show one verse in the bible where it says thou may steal if you lack food, water and medicine, what our God too weak? he cant heal or send a man to give you the money, i know a family who where the husband lost his and one of them worked , he had no insurance so either had to rely his wife for support who worked part time, as bus driver.

i am sorry,what this man did was wrong. plain and simple. God never tell us a christian go though steal for you healing does he? he instead pray to get healed!

you have no case if you cant find any bible verse where stealing is ok in the bible under any circumstances. its not, yes we all do that buts its wrong.i have been convicted over taking pens and other things.

so please. spare me i dont know this stuff, i was raised as a kid whose family had no water at times nor electricity and no ac in the hot florida summers and we were on welfare at times. so i do know a bit on this fact.

he had a heart attack ahd got the help he needed.pray and his own blood mother who had MONEY helped him out.
 
yes i have!not once but twice.all minor

This is not your post.
This is not my post.
But I can do this all night till the cows come home.
The man was not stealing.
He meant no harm to any person.
He shows how he can not get legal medical care in the USA.
I have a joint disease.
I have no health insurance.
An PCP office visit is $150.00
An follow-up specialist visit is over $500.00
An MRI is about $1500.00 per joint.
Of course they want more. always more blood work.
I am sorry about your wife and will give a prayer.
But you are side stepping the issue that even if a person has health insurance in the USA, that person can not afford to go to the doctor.
 
This is not your post.
This is not my post.
But I can do this all night till the cows come home.
The man was not stealing.
He meant no harm to any person.
He shows how he can not get legal medical care in the USA.
I have a joint disease.
I have no health insurance.
An PCP office visit is $150.00
An follow-up specialist visit is over $500.00
An MRI is about $1500.00 per joint.
Of course they want more. always more blood work.
I am sorry about your wife and will give a prayer.
But you are side stepping the issue that even if a person has health insurance in the USA, that person can not afford to go to the doctor.
lets see if he saw me and i had a bigger build them him and he needed me to give him money what is he going to do? ask nicely? intent of no harm doesnt justify the crime. the court could be lenient but that doesnt make it right.oh i know what i cost

my wife spends with insurance 200 plus a month on her meds at a minumim. well we can thank lawyers and also obamacare for that problem as people are being dropped by their employers left and right.my insurance doubled if i wanted to keep the same levels of care. so i lowered it.

yes the fact that medical care is an issue but justifying sin is something we shouldnt do. sorry that is what it is.
 
lets see if he saw me and i had a bigger build them him and he needed me to give him money what is he going to do?

He did not want money.
He did not care if you are macho or not.
He asked for one dollar.
Besides the emergency room, how many clinics/doctors will see the uninsured without cash/credit card up front?
None that I know of in Oregon.
 
He did not want money.
He did not care if you are macho or not.
He asked for one dollar.
Besides the emergency room, how many clinics/doctors will see the uninsured without cash/credit card up front?
None that I know of in Oregon.
so why is he charged then for a crime? how does one steal if one doesnt ask by force or take unlawfully. yes in florida one can see a doctor without paying first. i have done that numerous times here and had them bill me. with or without insurance. and here we have a ton of low cost clinics.i find this sad, liberal oregon havin higher taxes and yet i think a public option or health care system yet the costs are higher and fewer can afford it. not so in florida.
 
Jeez Oregon must really hate the poor...

Anyways... The guy broke the law and he was banking on that fact. I don't see how you can argue otherwise...
 
so why is he charged then for a crime? how does one steal if one doesnt ask by force

Of course it is a crime. That is why he is in jail.
That is what he wanted because the state must take care of it's prisoners so not to face an abuse charge later.
I could google it but I bet you money that Florida also wants insurance information at time of check-in.
You might squeeze by the first time, but not on the 2nd visit for any ailment.
His conditions were not immediately life threatening.
But you or I might think so if waking up morning after morning and in pain and not able to afford a good doctor visit.
The whole point to this story is that anyone who can afford to go to the emergency room and pay the bill when it arrives in the mailbox does not understand why this man did what he did.
My guess is that Jesus understands.
 
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