Jesus & 144,000 Rev 14:4-5 Part 2

[Trees of Old]

Undefiled Virgin Jew Men
Rev 14:4 These are they (Virgin Jew Men) which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins (Rev 7:3,4). These are they (Virgin Jew Men) which follow the Lamb (title of Jesus) whither so ever he (Jesus) goes. These (Virgin Jew Men) were redeemed (by Jesus Rev 14:3) from among men, being the first fruits unto God and to the Lamb (two titles one being).
Ø Virgin Woman Isa 7:14 Matt 1:18-25 Mary
Ø Virgin Children Rev 12:17 6th Trumpet Kingdom Saints
The Virgin Jew Men

1. Rev 7:3 servants of God 2. Rev 7:3 sealed in foreheads 3. Rev 7:4 144,000 sealed 4. Rev 7:4 sealed from Children of Israel 5. Rev 7:4-8 12000 from each 12 tribes 6. Rev 14:1 stand on Mount Zion Jesus 7. Rev 14:1 Father’s name in foreheads 8. Rev 14:3 sing new song 9. Rev 14:3 no man can learn new song

10. Rev 14:3 redeemed from earth 11. Rev 14:4 not defiled with women 12. Rev 14:4 they are virgins 13. Rev 14:4 they always follow Jesus 14. Rev 14:4 redeemed from among men 15. Rev 14:4 first fruits to God and Jesus 16. Rev 14:5 no guile in mouths 17. Rev 14:5 no fault before God’s throne

Virgin Jew Men have no Deceit.
Rev 14:5 And in their (Virgin Jew Men) mouth (authoritative participation) was found no guile (deceit Rev 7:3,4): for they are without fault before the (heavenly) throne (Rev 14:3) of God.

Jesus is the Christ the Son of God (Matt 16:13-20 Acts 20:28 Heb 12:23​

1. Matt 26:63 Jesus held his peace. the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure you by the living God (Rev 11:3), that you tell us whether you be the Christ, the Son of God (God flesh and blood Gen 3:15 Acts 20:28).
2. Acts 10:43 To him (Jesus) give all the prophets witness (Isa 8:20), that through his (Matt 1:18-25) name whosoever believes in him will receive remission of sins (1Cor 3:11).
3. Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

The Good Witness
1. Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, and you shalt bruise his heel.
2. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
3. Joh 3:11-18 Verily, verily, I say unto you, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and you receive not our witness. Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? Joh 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

4. Luk 23:29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

 

[RandyK]

The 144,000 is most difficult in the Revelation, and appears to be symbolic, much as the Temple vision of Ezekiel in Eze 40-48 was. As Paul noted in 1 Corinthians 10.11 Israel was intended by God to be a model for the International Church. And so, her Salvation, despite the fact she was reduced to a mere remnant, provided a solid hope in Christ for all the world.

The Scriptures should be taken literally only when there is no evidence that it should be taken figuratively. In this case we know that Israel in history defaulted to the International Church and has temporarily laid aside her national hope. She is not yet Christian.

However, a remnant of Israel maintained her hope in Christian Salvation, and as such, successfully pointed the way for the continuation of the Kingdom of God in other earthly nations, namely Christian nations of the world. The fact the 144,000 represent exact numbers indicates this is imagery, and not the more random evidence of individual choice, which is really what Christianity is all about.

The fact that the 144,000 consists of 12 tribes also indicates this is imagery, or symbolism, because those 12 tribes were the original form of Israel, and largely ceased to be relevant when Israel evolved into nationhood, which was God's original plan for Israel regardless.

The fact 12 tribes are mentioned indicates that Israel has succeeded in utilizing all parts of her original calling to express God in her nationality. And it was all designed to represent a united association with Christ. They all now follow the Lamb, as opposed to their original calling under the Law to gather in Jerusalem 3 times a year.

It is all obviously symbolic, just as Ezekiel's Temple was a vision high on a mountain. It was making use of OT terminology to express Christian truth through the use of symbolism, in my humble opinion.

None of this is expressing the reality of Israel's literal national salvation, which I believe in regardless. The fact of Israel's eventual political salvation makes this symbolism even more relevant by showing that only a set apart remnant of Israel show the way to Christianity in the NT era. If Israel had been truly "replaced" by the International Church, there would be no point in drawing attention to a symbolic remnant of Jews who point the way to Christianity.