Job and the purpose of suffering.

[lovely]

Paul wrote that love edifies and that it's the bond of perfectness.

 

[jasoncran]

Hello, brother, let me ask you: If we cannot be as God (notice I said "as God". I'm not implying we can BE God) how can Scripture tell us to "be perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect" and that "as He (Jesus) is so are we also in the world"?

while i am not a calvinist nor an osaser were talking about justification vs sanfictation.

the later is what i meant. we grow more like jesus not a mini jesus.

 

[tessiewebb]

while i am not a calvinist nor an osaser were talking about justification vs sanfictation.

the later is what i meant. we grow more like jesus not a mini jesus.

hmmm, not sure I see the difference, and I certainly don't want toget into calvinism or "osaser". Doesn't the Bible say "you were sanctified" in <TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 125%" id=table_bible class=table_bible border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR id=1Cr_6_11_1068011><TD class=td_bible_verse_heading vAlign=top width=68 align=left>1Cr 6:11</TD><TD class=td_bible_text vAlign=top>And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Were is past tense. Just as is justified. Maybe you are thinking along the lines of "being" sanctified as in as we live through our days we are more and more separated to God's purpose?

 

[Christ_empowered]

hey. What's with the deleted posts? Is this thread taking a turn for the worse?

I've always found Job interesting. In the OT, there's a lot of focus on God's rules and the consequences (in this world) of violating them. Violating God's rules equals poverty, destruction, "the grave." The here-and-now is emphasized over the hereafter. In Job I see God as more than a law-giver and judge, both of which are important roles, but also are aspects of God that fall relatively easily into human understanding. I see a glimpse of the dynamic, eternal, creative, all-consuming God who came long before us and will exist long after us. Job puts human existence into perspective. Also, I find Job's restoration to health and wealth to be something of a metaphor for the joy believers experience after a life filled with trials and tribulation. Its like a sneak peek at what's in store for those who "fight the good fight" and continue to "run the race."