Just a Question

[Tessa]

This is an honest question and I mean no offense to anyone but if you moods think it's too much, delete it.

That said , the question is, if a man simply looks upon a woman in lust, he has committed adultery with her in his heart, right?

So...if people who are not gay, sympathize with gays and practice tolerance and acceptance towards them...would that make them gay in their heart?

By simply tolerating gay people is not lusting after them. So how can it mean the same as lusting after the opposite sex?
You can love them without lusting - God loves everyone. I really can't see that it would make anyone gay at heart.

 

[Michael74]

Im not so sure about that! If a man didn't't have to physically interact with a woman to be guilty of same...then maybe (in keeping the same tone of the verse) men or women who practice tolerance or diversity or whatever. ..are lgbt in their heart too, to God? Maybe even never have had a gay-lesbian experience. ..! ?
Wasn't't Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed for thrypublic acceptance of it as much as for the sinners themselves?

Oh, we are definitely supposed to bring sinners back to the truth.

Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20 NKJV

Failure to warn sinners is a different sin than lust. It is still a sin.

When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Ezekiel 33:8 NKJV

Make sure to speak the truth in love. Speaking any other way is also sin.

but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— Ephesians 4:15 NKJV

 

[for_his_glory]

It doesn't make them gay, but tolerant in the sense they go against the word of God and accept that which is an abomination to God, Leviticus 18:22; 20:10-21; Romans 1:18-32.

 

[stovebolts]

No, I meant it how I said it. The scripture's talking about adultery or fornication is the tone I hear, what's in the heart and that's enough for guilt.

So I wondered if it may work the same way with lgbt friendly people. Would God consider them, gay in their heart? God looks at the heart.

Somebody could be gay, but not actively participating in that lifestyle. Think of it like this. Drinking is ok, but getting drunk is a sin. For an alcoholic, they can struggle with the desire to drink, and it is their own personal struggle. I'm not an alcoholic, so I dont understand that struggle but I know real. What also matters is that they control the urge to drink and not act on it.
In the same way, a homosexual may have desires that you or others dont have. It's their struggle and if we dont understand it, we shouldnt condemn somebody who is trying to get their life right.

In my heart, if I want what's best for the alcoholic, addict or homosexual then I dont think God is going to be upset with me. After all, Jesus spent the majority of his time with sinners calling them to repent, and showing them the way to the Kingdom.

 

[stovebolts]

It doesn't make them gay, but tolerant in the sense they go against the word of God and accept that which is an abomination to God, Leviticus 18:22; 20:10-21; Romans 1:18-32.

God hates divorce too, and there are more couples in the church that are divorced than not.
Imho, we need to take care of our own house before we start cleaning the house that isnt ours.

 

[Edward]

Somebody could be gay, but not actively participating in that lifestyle. Think of it like this. Drinking is ok, but getting drunk is a sin. For an alcoholic, they can struggle with the desire to drink, and it is their own personal struggle. I'm not an alcoholic, so I dont understand that struggle but I know real. What also matters is that they control the urge to drink and not act on it.
In the same way, a homosexual may have desires that you or others dont have. It's their struggle and if we dont understand it, we shouldnt condemn somebody who is trying to get their life right.

In my heart, if I want what's best for the alcoholic, addict or homosexual then I dont think God is going to be upset with me. After all, Jesus spent the majority of his time with sinners calling them to repent, and showing them the way to the Kingdom.

I'm not condemning anybody, I was just curious. I disagree with you that being gay is comparable to alcoholism.

Theyre both sins but vastly different

 

[Edward]

God hates divorce too, and there are more couples in the church that are divorced than not.
Imho, we need to take care of our own house before we start cleaning the house that isnt ours.

It sounds like you missed the point. Not, bad gay...but rather, I wonder if God sees sympathizers as gay in their heart? That was the point.

Oh the crazy stuff that goes through my head in the morning before enough coffee, lol.

 

[stovebolts]

It sounds like you missed the point. Not, bad gay...but rather, I wonder if God sees sympathizers as gay in their heart? That was the point.

Oh the crazy stuff that goes through my head in the morning before enough coffee, lol.

Yeah, that post you quoted me wasnt for you. ;-)

What do you mean as gay in their heart. I'm usually a pretty happy fellow lol!

Being gay isnt any more a sin than an alcoholic the way I see it. We all have something we struggle with.

I guess I need to understand how your using the word sympathise. Can you share an example?

Btw, my flight just got delayed... I hope I dont miss my connecting flight.