Justification vs Pardon

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FAQ: Was it really necessary to restore Jesus' crucified dead body to life?

REPLY: Jesus' crucifixion made it possible for everyone to obtain a pardon per Isa
53:6. However, his crucifixion alone doesn't clear anybody, viz: it leaves the record
of people's wrongs intact.

For example; former US President Gerald Ford pardoned former US President
Richard Nixon, but although the pardon kept Mr. Nixon out of prison, it did nothing
to clear his name, viz: he's still in the books for criminal conduct. So then; the
thing that Mr. Nixon really needed was exoneration which, though impossible in
most any of the world's normal criminal justice systems, is very possible in
Heaven's system by means of Jesus' resurrection.

Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised to life
for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" is dikaiosis (dik-ah'-yo-sis) which means
acquittal; defined as an adjudication of innocence: usually due to a lack of sufficient
evidence to convict.

That's comparable to Isa 53:11 wherein is said:

"By his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many; and he will bear their
iniquities."

The thing is: Jesus not only took the punishment for my sins, but he also bore
them, i.e. by some strange administrative process that I have yet to fully
understand, God removed my sins from me and transferred them to Jesus; in
effect making me a joint principal with him on the cross.

Col 3:3 . . For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

When Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life; he came back without those
sins. So, in the end, folks whose slates have been wiped clean by Jesus' resurrection
will have nothing on the books with which to accuse them at the great white throne
event depicted by Rev 20:11-15, viz: it will appear they have never been anything
less than 100% innocent their entire lives.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting
their trespasses against them. (cf. Jer 31:34)

The Greek word translated "counting" pertains to keeping an inventory, i.e. an
indictment. Well; without an indictment, the great white throne will have no cause
to proceed with a trial.

* I should emphasize that Jesus tasted death for everyone's sins, yet many are on a
road to the wrong side of things because their sins are still on the books.


FAQ: How does one go about obtaining that acquittal?

REPLY: By means of a simple RSVP. Find a private place, cover your face with your
hands for a sense of connection and tell God, in your own words, that you'd like to
take advantage of His son's resurrection to avoid the prospect of facing justice down
the road.
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FAQ: Was it really necessary to restore Jesus' crucified dead body to life?

REPLY: Jesus' crucifixion made it possible for everyone to obtain a pardon per Isa
53:6. However, his crucifixion alone doesn't clear anybody, viz: it leaves the record
of people's wrongs intact.

For example; former US President Gerald Ford pardoned former US President
Richard Nixon, but although the pardon kept Mr. Nixon out of prison, it did nothing
to clear his name, viz: he's still in the books for criminal conduct. So then; the
thing that Mr. Nixon really needed was exoneration which, though impossible in
most any of the world's normal criminal justice systems, is very possible in
Heaven's system by means of Jesus' resurrection.

Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised to life
for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" is dikaiosis (dik-ah'-yo-sis) which means
acquittal; defined as an adjudication of innocence: usually due to a lack of sufficient
evidence to convict.

That's comparable to Isa 53:11 wherein is said:

"By his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many; and he will bear their
iniquities."

The thing is: Jesus not only took the punishment for my sins, but he also bore
them, i.e. by some strange administrative process that I have yet to fully
understand, God removed my sins from me and transferred them to Jesus; in
effect making me a joint principal with him on the cross.

Col 3:3 . . For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

When Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life; he came back without those
sins. So, in the end, folks whose slates have been wiped clean by Jesus' resurrection
will have nothing on the books with which to accuse them at the great white throne
event depicted by Rev 20:11-15, viz: it will appear they have never been anything
less than 100% innocent their entire lives.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting
their trespasses against them. (cf. Jer 31:34)

The Greek word translated "counting" pertains to keeping an inventory, i.e. an
indictment. Well; without an indictment, the great white throne will have no cause
to proceed with a trial.

* I should emphasize that Jesus tasted death for everyone's sins, yet many are on a
road to the wrong side of things because their sins are still on the books.


FAQ: How does one go about obtaining that acquittal?

REPLY: By means of a simple RSVP. Find a private place, cover your face with your
hands for a sense of connection and tell God, in your own words, that you'd like to
take advantage of His son's resurrection to avoid the prospect of facing justice down
the road.
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It was sinful human nature that was condemned by God through Christ. Because Christ shared our nature.
It is the acceptance of Christ’s sacrifice by God whereby the condemnation of all in Adam is reconciled.
 
It was sinful human nature that was condemned by God through Christ. Because Christ shared our nature.
It is the acceptance of Christ’s sacrifice by God whereby the condemnation of all in Adam is reconciled.
Your response is a bit vague. Are you agreeing, but adding more information or are you disagreeing?
 
Your response is a bit vague. Are you agreeing, but adding more information or are you disagreeing?
I suppose I was addressing the question of restoring Christ’s crucified body back to life.
When Christ was raised from the dead it is said that he dies no more.
The body he was raised with is immortal.
The body he was first born with was mortal.

If the body he was first born with was mortal, it means he was a son of Adam.
It means that the death that passed to all man from Adam, passed to Jesus.

The death that passed to all man is a condemnation of the nature of man. The nature Jesus shared with us.

Jesus’ death is therefore not a substitutionary death but a representative death.

By sharing our nature and overcoming it without sinning, God accepted his sacrifice as the means whereby all others who have been condemned to die may be granted life through Christ.

Christ is the conquering hero. Not only did he save himself but all those in him.
 
Jesus died in our place baring our sin, our guilt our shame and taking our punishment.

How do we know he did all this?

Because he rose from the dead.
That is why he resurrected as prove that he had achieve this, that he had fulfilled the laws requirements, to show that he truly is the Son of God.
 
We are justified and pardon of our sin by God's grace and mercy to all who will come to Him admitting they are a sinner needing God's grace to be made Spiritually renewed again. John 3:5-7.


SALVATION – delivered from sin, promise of our welfare

Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. Grace pardons us and mercy loves us unconditionally. Let’s start with the conversation of Jesus and Nicodemus to get a better understanding of what it is to be born again and how to shed this old sin nature through repentance and then we will move on to learn how grace and mercy works in our lives.
(John 3:1-7)

Jesus was teaching Nicodemus that it was a Spiritual rebirth or renewal of our spirit that through Gods spoken word we can reconcile our past sins through repentance to be made sinless again before God. We are all born with a sin nature because of sin being introduced into the world through Satan’s deceit when he told Eve it was alright to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil even though God forbid them to eat of it. Our flesh will always sin because that is our nature and God can not see our flesh because of our sins nor can he hear the prayers of a sinner.
(John 9:31; Romans 8:6-8)

Sin separates us from God because God is a spirit and can only recognize his own children by what spirit is living in their hearts. We have to renew, rebirth - born again, Gods Spirit within us in order to be called a child of God and see the kingdom of heaven. We now put off the old man (flesh) and put on the new man (Spirit). We are renewed by the word of God and through the Holy Spirit teaching us of all things.
(John 14:26; Colossians 3:1-17)

We now have an intercessor (Jesus) who sits at the right hand of the Father and hears our confession that we are sinners and need his salvation as we believe in our heart that he was truly sent from God as the living word that we can indeed become righteous again not of our own righteousness, but that righteousness that is God whom through his Spirit is promised to dwell in us. All we have to do is believe and confess that we are sinners and allow Gods righteousness to cleanse us and renew our spirit man. Jesus wants us to come as we are and allow him to make the changes that need made in our hearts. People want to clean the fish before they catch them, but Jesus says come as you are I will clean you from the inside out.
(John 10:9; 1:14; 14:6 Romans 10:9-10)

It is not by our works or good deeds that save us for if that was all it would take then Gods word would be made void in our lives and Jesus would have died in vain, but because we are all sinners, it is by Gods grace and mercy that forgives our sins and washes us clean by the atoning blood of the Lamb (Jesus) so we can be made renewed again and free from our old sin nature.
(Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5-7)