LBGT hide their identity.

[Northman]

Edward. You're barking up the wrong tree. Many homosexuals, prostitutes, strippers, adulterers or anyone else living a sexcentric life have suffered childhood sexual assault. Not all, but many. This creates a new normal and a very deep lasting impression. You are, in many cases, blaming victims who are doing their best to cope. Some have handed themselves over because they view it as normal. Others know it's not normal and come to terms as best they can. Still others were traumatized by childhood sexual assault and fully recognize they walk through life deeply injured. While we as Christians cannot accept homosexuality, we can show much more empathy instead of rebuke. Damaging the already damaged is not Christian. We do need to protect the kids though. This is where/when the harvesting takes place and where it needs to be stopped.

At this point everyone understands that Ed is barred from the conversation. Anything responding to him now is a cheap shot. Nobody is "getting in the last word". It's pure dishonour.

 

[Milk-Drops]

I don't care what Edward or anyone else likes to do, but will deal with the issue when it occurs as I have already done. I never said LBGT people are bad people so do not put words in my mouth. I'm against the physical practice of those who are LBGT and only try to share what God has already said about those who change the natural use of a man, woman and animals.

First you misunderstand me as I am against the act, not the person. I give evenifigoalone much credit for trying to abstain from the act per her love she has for the Lord. We all have areas we struggle in, but it does not give anyone the right to judge and condemn us when we try to talk about it.

This is a touchy subject, especially when you are a Christian talking about your feelings in a Christian forum. There will be opposition by those who do not listen and understand what she or anyone else is trying to say. Feelings are not an abomination to God, but the physical act is according to His word. No we no longer put them to death for the unnatural use, but we definitely need to show them grace and mercy as God shows each of us His grace and mercy within our own struggles.

So, are you going yo stop conflating lgbt the people with the act? Will you also stop using the term lifestyle instead of saying the act?

That is literally the very thing I ask every time we talk about this.

 

[daninthelionsden]

At this point everyone understands that Ed is barred from the conversation. Anything responding to him now is a cheap shot. Nobody is "getting in the last word". It's pure dishonour.

Don't start taking shots at me as this was a fast moving thread and I made my comment well before I knew he was banned from the thread. I did not read that far before I commented. I value Edward and his testimony of his walk. He is a big boy and he knows my heart.

 

[for_his_glory]

So, are you going yo stop conflating lgbt the people with the act? Will you also stop using the term lifestyle instead of saying the act?

That is literally the very thing I ask every time we talk about this.

Like I said, I am not against the people, but against the LGBT, against the unnatural use as they partake in these abominations against God. The unnatural use is the lifestyle they choose to put in action. Feelings are not actions. God loves the sinner, but not the sin and would only hope sinners like you and me would come back to Him to be reconciled and made clean again.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I don't care what Edward or anyone else likes to do, but will deal with the issue when it occurs as I have already done

The issue is he has a pattern of the same behavior over many, many threads. If it were just this thread, I would not have reacted as I did. He gets away with the antagonizing he does because he hides behind "genuine questions". Without looking at this as a pattern, it seems innocent.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Like I said, I am not against the people, but against the LGBT

For His Glory you literally said yes and no at the same time.

LGBT is the name of the demographic of people.

against the unnatural use as they partake in these abominations against God. ,

Then say you are against gay sex and identifying as a different gender.

The unnatural use is the lifestyle they choose to put in action.

That's manipulative language because thus implies that an action dictates a person's life, which is not true.

Feelings are not actions. God loves the sinner, but not the sin and would only hope sinners like you and me would come back to Him to be reconciled and made clean again.

FHg then when why use a dehumanizing term like lifestyle? The reason it'd dehumanizing is because you are assuming actions because I have certain feelings.

Seriously how hard is it to just say gay sex instead of lifestyle that implies more?

 

[for_his_glory]

For His Glory you literally said yes and no at the same time.

LGBT is the name of the demographic of people.




Then say you are against gay sex and identifying as a different gender.


That's manipulative language because thus implies that an action dictates a person's life, which is not true.



FHg then when why use a dehumanizing term like lifestyle? The reason it'd dehumanizing is because you are assuming actions because I have certain feelings.

Seriously how hard is it to just say gay sex instead of lifestyle that implies more?

I don't see it as a demographic of people, but that in which they chose to be identified like wearing a label. I call myself a Christian because that is what I am being labeled as by others. If I was a lesbian, Gay, bi-sexual or transgender then that is who I claim to be. evenifigoalone says she is gay, but until she acts on that it is only what she calls herself. Hope that makes sense.

Since you do not understand the scriptural basis of what I said I will put it in easier terms. I love all people, but hate the sin that they act upon. One's lifestyle is the way a person lives. If they live the life of the LGBT then that is who they are. If I live the life of being a Christian then that's who I am.

 

[Milk-Drops]

I don't see it as a demographic of people, but that in which they chose to be identified like wearing a label.

So a demographic of people. You just described. Demographic.

You are trying to hold/convey contradicting statements. Lgbt = people

You can't be both against LGBT and not against the people.who are lgbt

I call myself a Christian because that is what I am being labeled as by others. If I was a lesbian, Gay, bi-sexual or transgender then that is who I claim to be. evenifigoalone says she is gay, but until she acts on that it is only what she calls herself. Hope that makes sense.

So we circle back around again. You are not against LGBT, you are against gay sex. You are not against the L person EvenifIgoalone, you are against her having gay sex.

Since you do not understand the scriptural basis of what I said I will put it in easier terms. I love all people, but hate the sin that they act upon.

So you are not against The LGBT, you are against gay sex.

Look the problem isn't that I don't understand the scriptural basis. The problem is you say lgbt when youean gay sex. An acronym for a group of people.

One's lifestyle is the way a person lives.

Yes, and people in a demographic dont all live the same way.

If they live the life of the LGBT then that is who they are.

So my entire way I and EvenifIgoalone live our life is gay sex?

You're why I keep holding you to this? By using the word lifestyle here you are boiling both of us down to the action of gay sex as our entire lives. It's insulting. The fact you can't understand this is maddening.

If I live the life of being a Christian then that's who I am.

That's because that's the name of a religion with rules, beliefs, and rituals.


I'll spell it out more. How would you feel if someone said you are bad because of your white lifestyle?

Would you not be offended that someone condensed your life down to skin color?

 

[for_his_glory]

You can't be both against LGBT and not against the people.who are lgbt

Once again, I am against the unnatural acts that even God called an abomination to Him as it goes against His design and purpose of man and women.

So we circle back around again. You are not against LGBT, you are against gay sex. You are not against the L person EvenifIgoalone, you are against her having gay sex.

Please get it through your head. evenifigoalone has said so many times she is gay, but abstains from sleeping with another woman. This is a struggle for her she is dealing with.

So you are not against The LGBT, you are against gay sex.

Look the problem isn't that I don't understand the scriptural basis. The problem is you say lgbt when youean gay sex. An acronym for a group of people.

LGBT is not all about gay sex. It stands for: lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender. These are what I am against. Can't make it any clearer.

So my entire way I and EvenifIgoalone live our life is gay sex?

You're why I keep holding you to this? By using the word lifestyle here you are boiling both of us down to the action of gay sex as our entire lives. It's insulting. The fact you can't understand this is maddening.

sex is something that has to be acted upon, other than that it is just a word. Feelings are not actions unless they are acted upon, they are just feelings.

That's because that's the name of a religion with rules, beliefs, and rituals.


I'll spell it out more. How would you feel if someone said you are bad because of your white lifestyle?

Would you not be offended that someone condensed your life down to skin color?

Christian is not a religion. Christian means to be Christ like as we are followers of Christ.

It has nothing to do with the color of ones skin as there is no comparison with that and the LBGT

 

[Milk-Drops]

Once again, I am against the unnatural acts that even God called an abomination to Him as it goes against His design and purpose of man and women.

Yes, the English words for that is gay sex. The acronym LGBT is a demographic of people that experience attraction to either the same sex or don't identify as the gender they were assigned by birth or chromosomes.

Being against gay sex =Christian
Being against the LGBT = Being against the people.

Please get it through your head. evenifigoalone has said so many times she is gay, but abstains from sleeping with another woman. This is a struggle for her she is dealing with.

Yes, that's means she is a lesbien. The L in LGBT. Get that through your head. A person's virginity or abstaining from sex status doesn't not include or exclude them from being LGBT.

LGBT is not all about gay sex. It stands for: lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender. These are what I am against. Can't make it any clearer.

You understand you can be those things and not have sex right? So it literally makes no sense to say you are not against the people but against lgbt. It literally makes no sense

sex is something that has to be acted upon, other than that it is just a word. Feelings are not actions unless they are acted upon, they are just feelings.

Yep, and that does not mean LGBT people are having sex. It's just the lable for what kind of feelings you have. Why is this so hard?

Christian is not a religion. Christian means to be Christ like as we are followers of Christ.

You are part of the religion Christianity.

It has nothing to do with the color of ones skin as there is no comparison with that and the LBGT

Yes it's a lable for a demographic of people. If you are gay, that means you have the feeling of attraction to the same gender as yourself. The attraction is not the act of sex. Being Gay on its own is not a sin. Having sex with the same gender is the sin. The attraction is not a lifestyle.


Just like your skin color is not a lifestyle.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Since I put some people on ignore, there are some posts I missed that I've become curious about.
And now that I've finally viewed them, I'm guessing even the members that have been here for years actually aren't aware that I had a username change a couple years back? I used to be questdriven. I was a mod on here from 2012 to 2020. Edward was a mod at one point, too. We were on the same staff.
I actually changed my username (or rather, asked the admins to change it), specifically because I had come out about experiencing same sex attraction on this forum, and I didn't want my family to find my account and therefore find out my secret. But now that I'm no longer hiding that, it's a non-issue.