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Life in the Millennium.

David505

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Biblical prophecy appears to predict an unsettling time of increasing political and financial upheaval, and religious persecution, leading to an Orwellian social order preceding the return of Christ, Christ’s millennial reign, and our ultimate induction to eternity.

Orwell’s copycats shouldn’t scare us. As for me, I’m not smart enough to conceive eternity; however, the Millennium fascinates me. What will life be like in Christ’s 1000-year Millennium?

Will we exist in resurrection bodies or will we be a lot like we are now—like Lazarus, for example, after Christ raised him? Will the Millennium be an era of renewed natural splendor and limitless clean energy? How will we get around—horse-drawn travel or teleportation?

What do you imagine?
 
That's something I enjoy thinking about too. I even believe today our Lord could be preparing the minds of His saints for it.

Rom 8:18-19
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
(KJV)

We know per 1 Cor.15 that we'll be changed to the resurrection body, and I think that type of body is much like the bodies we have now, while still not being of the earthly, but of the heavenly order. I suspect many limitations we experience today will be gone. I also suspect that mental limitations will be gone for everyone. We will all fully understand with no doubts.

Basically, I see it as the Heavenly dimension, which is behind a veil today, being revealed to all upon this earth, meaning the joining of this earthly dimension with the heavenly. We're going to find out just what and Who is behind the veil of the heavenly. In Isaiah 14 we're shown that we will look over into the pit at Satan and say, "Is this the man..."?
 
David505 said:
Biblical prophecy appears to predict an unsettling time of increasing political and financial upheaval, and religious persecution, leading to an Orwellian social order preceding the return of Christ, Christ’s millennial reign, and our ultimate induction to eternity.

Orwell’s copycats shouldn’t scare us. As for me, I’m not smart enough to conceive eternity; however, the Millennium fascinates me. What will life be like in Christ’s 1000-year Millennium?

Will we exist in resurrection bodies or will we be a lot like we are now—like Lazarus, for example, after Christ raised him? Will the Millennium be an era of renewed natural splendor and limitless clean energy? How will we get around—horse-drawn travel or teleportation?

What do you imagine?
I believe the word of God shows that the earth will be more wicked then it is now, and we in immortal bodies from thrones in heaven will reign over the nations of the earth with a rod of iron.- the creations freedom from sin and the curses thereof will not happen until the new heavens and earth after the millenial reign
 
David505 said:
Biblical prophecy appears to predict an unsettling time of increasing political and financial upheaval, and religious persecution, leading to an Orwellian social order preceding the return of Christ, Christ’s millennial reign, and our ultimate induction to eternity.

Orwell’s copycats shouldn’t scare us. As for me, I’m not smart enough to conceive eternity; however, the Millennium fascinates me. What will life be like in Christ’s 1000-year Millennium?

Will we exist in resurrection bodies or will we be a lot like we are now—like Lazarus, for example, after Christ raised him? Will the Millennium be an era of renewed natural splendor and limitless clean energy? How will we get around—horse-drawn travel or teleportation?

What do you imagine?
I dont think my life will be much different while the saints in Judea are being persecuted(tribulation).
But speaking of the mystery of God or what we shall be like all I can say is we dont know.We know when the mystery shall be finished through.


The mystery of God.
1 John 3;2
Beloved,now are we the sons of God,and it doth not yet appear what we shall be;but we know that,when he shall appear,we shall be like him,for we shall see him as he is.

When the mystery shall be revealed.

1Corinth 15;51-52
Behold I show you a mystery;we shall not all sleep,but we shall all be changed.
In a moment,in the twinkling of an eye,at the last trump;for the trumpet shall sound,and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed.

Rev 10;7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,when he shall begin to sound,the mystery of God should be finished,as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

At that time the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ.+The day of the redemption of the purchased possession.
Rev11;15
And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven saying,The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ,and he shall reign for ever and ever.
 
David505 said:
Biblical prophecy appears to predict an unsettling time of increasing political and financial upheaval, and religious persecution, leading to an Orwellian social order preceding the return of Christ, Christ’s millennial reign, and our ultimate induction to eternity.

Orwell’s copycats shouldn’t scare us. As for me, I’m not smart enough to conceive eternity; however, the Millennium fascinates me. What will life be like in Christ’s 1000-year Millennium?

Will we exist in resurrection bodies or will we be a lot like we are now—like Lazarus, for example, after Christ raised him? Will the Millennium be an era of renewed natural splendor and limitless clean energy? How will we get around—horse-drawn travel or teleportation?

What do you imagine?
The resurrected, and raptured saints will be in immortal bodies, but those that resist the antichrist , but do not receive Christ until after His return will enter the Millennium in mortal bodies. those born to mortals during the millennium will have mortal bodies as well. So there will be a mixture of mortal, and immortals living during the millennial reign.
 
GodspromisesRyes said:
I believe the word of God shows that the earth will be more wicked then it is now, and we in immortal bodies from thrones in heaven will reign over the nations of the earth with a rod of iron.- the creations freedom from sin and the curses thereof will not happen until the new heavens and earth after the millenial reign

Thanks GodspromisesRyes,

Gosh, are you sure about that? I was hoping the Millennium would be a lot of fun.

Isaiah’s richly descriptive prose may shed light. Isaiah appears to paint a beautiful literary portrait of the Millennium.

Jesus Christ, “the stone which the builders refused (Psa. 118:22; Matt. 21:42; Mark 12:10; Luke 20:17),†at His Crucifixion, will reign “in Zion for a foundation…a precious cornerstone (Isa. 28:16) [and] the rock of our salvation (Psa. 95:11).â€

Finally, all the peoples of the world will enjoy peace, impartiality, and prosperity in the company of the “Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6).†Our Lord will preside at Jerusalem over a renewed Earth of holy natural splendor, “and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands (Isa. 55:12).â€

What a beautiful and bountiful world the kingdom will be, “for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea (Isa. 11:9.â€
 
During the thousand year reign people will live to be hundreds of years old. There will be both electric and horse drawn vehicles. No one will prophecy during that thousand years because it will be outlawed. Land and homes will be given and not sold. No one will be homeless or without food. Everything will be recycled and there will be no waste.
 
Since 70AD we have been living in the Millennium. Yet as Christians we still have work to do in fulfilling the great commission. :yes

  • Rom 5:17 - For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.
 
In the Millenium, Jesus will rule through 24 Christian nations. They are represented by the 24 elders, who sit on thrones and wear a crown. They are also represented by the 24 fruits borne by the 2 trees of life in the new Jerusalem.
 
Sinthesis said:
Since 70AD we have been living in the Millennium. Yet as Christians we still have work to do in fulfilling the great commission. :yes

  • Rom 5:17 - For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

I agree with this though.
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Hi,

The Bible says a few things about what the Millennium will be like. Everything else is unfounded speculation.

Firstly, of course, it will last for 1000 years. During this period Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit, and unable to deceive the nations anymore. Clearly, we are NOT in the Millennium at the moment!

Revelation 20:1-3: Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Those of us who have been given our new bodies (i.e. the saints resurrected/raptured at Christ's Second Coming) will have bodies like Jesus' resurrected body. I would guess that they will exhibit the same properties as His - able to eat and drink, but not needing to, able to appear and disappear at will, move through locked doors, etc. (see Luke 24:28-43, for example)

Philippians 3:21: ... [Jesus Christ] will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.

Naturally, they will be immortal, sinless bodies.

1 Corinthians 15:51-53: Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Some of the effects of the Curse will be reversed, but not all. The lives of those who enter the Millennium in mortal bodies, and their offspring, will be dramatically extended, but people will still die (eventually). The animals will be tame, not dangerous, safe for even toddlers to be around. Todays predator/prey relationships (e.g. the wolf and the lamb) will be rendered null and void. Animals will be vegetarian again, e.g. the lion will eat straw.

Isaiah 65:17-20: For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; for behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing, and her people a joy. I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in My people; the voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her, nor the voice of crying. “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; for the child shall die one hundred years old, but the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.

Isaiah 11:6-10: The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.

Jesus Himself will reign from Jerusalem, and war will be a thing of the past. There will finally be true peace, and righteous government.

Isaiah 2:2-4: Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the LORD’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it. Many people shall come and say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths.†For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He shall judge between the nations, and rebuke many people; they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.

All of Earth will keep, at the very minimum, the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles. Those who refuse will be punished accordingly.

Zechariah 14:16-19: And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

With Satan not around to deceive anyone for the thousand years, and a perfect, just government that rules with absolute authority, I imagine life will be pretty peaceful. However, sin will still be present in those with mortal bodies. People will still be sinful, or they wouldn't rebel against celebrating the Feast of Tabernacles, and they'll still be susceptible to deception from within and by others. They'll be open to Satan's deception once he's released at the end of the thousand years.

Revelation 20:7-10: Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 
David, well that is what revelation says.

The thing is I have come to believe that MOST scriptures that people believe to be about the millenial reign are truly about the kingdom of God that is IN US now, that we enter into by faith in Christ. Where WE have already been seated in heaven, come to mt zion, to the spirits of just men made perfect. WHere creation becomes more and more free of its vanity around us as we walk in faith and the power of His might.
 
There is only one passage in the Bible that everyone can agree is what happens during the millennium(Rev.20:1-7). Nowhere can we be sure it speaks of the same event, any other verse that someone claims happens during the millennium is pure speculation.

So I propose the most logical way to find other potential millennial references, is to examine Rev.20:1-7. We then try and find the same images, phrases, etc.. and see if anything looks similar.

I see so many people just arbitrarily pulling out large amounts of scripture and claiming it's during the millennium. Yet, there is nothing from Rev. 20:1-7 that corroborates it.

The most basic image I see from that passage is; saints sitting on thrones, judging and reigning with Christ. That is apparently one of the only sure things we can determine will happen during the millennium.

After searching every passage that spoke of sitting, reigning, judging, saints, with Christ, thrones, etc... What's below is what I found that appeared potential matches. Do your own search you may find something I didn't, but I think there is a pattern below. What do you think?
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Rev. 20:4 And I saw THRONES, and THEY SAT UPON THEM, and JUDGMENT WAS GIVEN UNTO THEM: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and THEY LIVED and REIGNED WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS.

1Cor. 6:2 Do ye not know that THE SAINTS SHALL JUDGE the world? and if the world SHALL BE JUDGED BY YOU, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Cor. 6:3 Know ye not that WE SHALL JUDGE angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Rev. 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but THEY SHALL BE PRIESTS of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS.

Mat. 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall SIT UPON twelve THRONES, JUDGING the twelve tribes of Israel.

Luke 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table IN MY KINGDOM, and SIT ON THRONES JUDGING the twelve tribes of Israel.

Luke 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall SIT DOWN IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Mat. 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall SIT DOWN with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Psa. 122:3-5 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together: Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the LORD. For there are set THRONES OF JUDGMENT, the thrones of the house of David.

Dan. 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and JUDGMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE SAINTS of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

1Cor.4:5 Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COME, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Adam
 
GodspromisesRyes said:
David, well that is what revelation says.

The thing is I have come to believe that MOST scriptures that people believe to be about the millenial reign are truly about the kingdom of God that is IN US now, that we enter into by faith in Christ. Where WE have already been seated in heaven, come to mt zion, to the spirits of just men made perfect. WHere creation becomes more and more free of its vanity around us as we walk in faith and the power of His might.

When Apostle Paul talks in that manner, he's talking about a literal fulfillment of it also that is still yet to come. An example would be the future glory he speaks of in Romans 8. The Heavenly Jerusalem is written that it will one day literally come down out of Heaven to this earth (Rev.21-22). Those in Christ today are given that promise as manifested already by The Spirit, but it's to have a future literal application also we are to still be in hope for. Like Paul showed in Romans 8, "For we are saved by hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for what a man seeth, why doeth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it." (Rom.8:24-25).

In 2 Peter 3, he showed how God literally ended a previous world age upon this earth with waters of a flood, cleansing the surface of this earth of man's works. In relation to that, Peter declared a future cleansing of this earth of man's wickedness off it, the next time with a consuming fire. The end result is to be true righteousness of a new heavens and a new earth period. That's not referring to humanist ideas where mankind on earth slowly over time creates a salvation on earth of their own doing. If left up to man, it would never happen. That's why the next cleansing is going take the wicked by surprise, and they will be destroyed off the earth, for God is a consuming fire, and He will burn man's works up at an instant.
 
veteran said:
In 2 Peter 3, he showed how God literally ended a previous world age upon this earth with waters of a flood, cleansing the surface of this earth of man's works. In relation to that, Peter declared a future cleansing of this earth of man's wickedness off it, the next time with a consuming fire. The end result is to be true righteousness of a new heavens and a new earth period. That's not referring to humanist ideas where mankind on earth slowly over time creates a salvation on earth of their own doing. If left up to man, it would never happen. That's why the next cleansing is going take the wicked by surprise, and they will be destroyed off the earth, for God is a consuming fire, and He will burn man's works up at an instant.

Very well put,
Adam
 
Sinthesis said:
Since 70AD we have been living in the Millennium. Yet as Christians we still have work to do in fulfilling the great commission...

If the Millennium lasts a thousand years, then how have we been living in the Millennium since 70 AD?
 
David505 said:
Sinthesis said:
Since 70AD we have been living in the Millennium. Yet as Christians we still have work to do in fulfilling the great commission...

If the Millennium lasts a thousand years, then how have we been living in the Millennium since 70 AD?

Can't deny that logic. :yes
 
David505 said:
Sinthesis said:
Since 70AD we have been living in the Millennium. Yet as Christians we still have work to do in fulfilling the great commission...

If the Millennium lasts a thousand years, then how have we been living in the Millennium since 70 AD?
The Millennium is not a literal '1000yrs'. Nor is it a literal '1 day'.

  • Psa 50:10 - For every beast of the forest [is] mine, [and] the cattle upon a thousand hills.

    Psa 105:8 - He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word [which] he commanded to a thousand generations.
 
Sinthesis said:
The Millennium is not a literal '1000yrs'. Nor is it a literal '1 day'.

Thanks Sinthesis,

Premillennialism appears pretty straightforward:

Revelation 20

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,


Does John's repetition (six times) of the phrase "thousand years" emphasize a literal interpretation?

In contrast, in the same passage, John refers to the Devil being "loosed a little season (Rev. 20: 3)" to indicate an indefinite time. If the Millennium is nonliteral (timewise), would John have chosen a similarly indefinite term?
 
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