There were giants in the earth in those days, and they bare children to them, and they (the children) became mighty men and men of renown.
I once upon a time believed as you do Edward, but I am no longer convinced that this was so, and in fact I rather doubt the whole fallen angel sex thing that is so often pushed. I believe what the Lord has given me to understand is the children are not "offspring" as a result of sex, but rather children in the sense of someone being mentored, or perhaps a disciple if you will. The angels who left their first estate taught the sons of men secret knowledge, and they became mighty men and men of renown because of it.
I have read the book of Enoch many years ago, and as I recall, the angels taught men things like metallurgy, war, etc.. and it was due to this that the world became wicked and violent and needed to be destroyed.
As a metaphor that we could relate to in today's world as someone who would be considered to be a might man and a man of great renown would be someone like Albert Einstein or Robert Oppenheimer. Both of whom thought of things that were outside the realms of men, and as a result we have nuclear energy and nuclear weapons, among many other inventions and discoveries. Were it not for Einstein, could we have put a man on the moon? Gene Roddenberry, where would the technology of the world today be without his vision that many of us watched as children 50 years ago. 3D printing and synthetic foods: who comes up with this stuff?
Good morning, Brother. It says they took wives, and they bare children to them. When I look back to the Hebrew for the Word bare, it doesn't say anything about mentoring at all, but refers to childbirth.
Bare H3205
to bear, bring forth, beget, gender, travail
- (Qal)
- to bear, bring forth
- of child birth
- of distress (simile)
- of wicked (behaviour)
- to beget
- (Niphal) to be born
- (Piel)
- to cause or help to bring forth
- to assist or tend as a midwife
- midwife (participle)
- (Pual) to be born
- (Hiphil)
- to beget (a child)
- to bear (fig. - of wicked bringing forth iniquity)
- (Hophal) day of birth, birthday (infinitive)
- (Hithpael) to declare one's birth (pedigree)/ (BLB)
In the book of Enoch, it says the same thing and also adds that they did indeed teach men how to make war, and women how to use makeup. It's hard to get around that for me. It is what the scripture says and the concordance seems to back up that notion.
Other cultures also have records of similar happenings. incubus and succubus having sex with people as they sleep, and the Greek mythological mighty men...would presumably be these nephilim hybrids? Perhaps so.
I remember another Brother, tried to explain to me that the mighty men or men of renown were as you say, men of great accomplishment, rather than giants...and I could wrap my mind around that notion. It brought me back down to earth a little...until I came across this scripture;
Numbers 13:31-33
31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.
32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.../
Remembering that any good study must align with the rest of scripture also, I had to let loose of the
men of great accomplishment notion, because it just doesn't jive with,
stronger than we, men of great stature, we were as grasshoppers in their sight. The Word giants in v33 took me back to H5303...(Giants, Nephilim) too, so it actually seems to support the Angel view.
