Lindsey1980

[Hitch]

WE ARE THE GENERATION HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!

I say that because, unmistakably, for the first time in hgistory, all the signs are coming together at an accelerated rate.
What do I mean? Look around you and see;

* Earthquakes are increasing in frequency; the greatest period for quakes in history is forecast for 1982.

* Famine spreads as population explodes.

* Pollution threatens our survival.

* Israel has been miraculously reborn aa a nation

* The U>S> is fading as a superpower.

* The Red Chinese continue to build their awesome army.

* Arabs and all the worlds muslims threaten a war that would destroy the state of Israel.

* All the worlds powers appear ready to involve themselves in a Middle East war because of their need for oil.

* The European community of 10 grows stronger and begins to doubt the effectiveness of the U>S> as an ally.

* Nuclear holocaust seems more possible every day.

All these signs and many more which are just visible point to the fact that this generation is the one that will see the end of the present world and the return of Jesus Christ

Countdown To Armageddon, H Lindsey, 1980, pg 181. Emphasis in original.

 

[jasoncran]

now he is agaisnt global climate change and what we should do. the eu has been around the 50s and also well we havent really gone by the way side yet.

to name a few.

 

[freeway]

Now be honest. In the list above what do you see "not" happening in the world today.

 

[jasoncran]

simple man made global warming.

and also the eu is falling apart as its weakening and the nation of greece almost was booted.

and we have debated the earthquakes thing. we have to have reference to point to say this is low and this high and also when and if theres spurts of intense and lower intesity of quakes.

that isnt given.

 

[Hitch]

Now be honest. In the list above what do you see "not" happening in the world today.

What do I mean? Look around you and see;

* Earthquakes are increasing in frequency; the greatest period for quakes in history is forecast for 1982.

Complete failure

* Famine spreads as population explodes.

Complete failure

* Pollution threatens our survival.


Complete failure


* Israel has been miraculously reborn as a nation

Whether Israel is miraculous or not it existed in its modern state long before 1980, and it should be noted that according to the author a 'biblical generation is something like 40 years' so this is at least a 50% failure

* The U.S. is fading as a superpower.

The US is the only superpower, for those who missed it, the USSR has vanished from the super power list, complete failure



* The Red Chinese continue to build their awesome army.

As of today the PLA includes just shy of 2.5 million men. So ,,, Thats 1 1/4% of the needed 200 million, a 98.75 % failure

* Arabs and all the worlds muslims threaten a war that would destroy the state of Israel.

Hmmmm I see more civil war type conflicks among the Arab states, but Im sure most are official Israel haters 50% failure


* All the worlds powers appear ready to involve themselves in a Middle East war because of their need for oil.

Complete failure

* The European community of 10 grows stronger and begins to doubt the effectiveness of the U.S.as an ally.

LOL Until now I'd never witnessed a 200% failure, they depend on us as much as ever ,even decades following the demise of the USSR.

* Nuclear holocaust seems more possible every day.


When I was a boy we practiced Civil Defense air raid procedures and there were government television adds promoting back yard bomb shelters. . Complete failure

 

[jasoncran]

i didnt see that. a famine. that isnt new at all. dearths in the ot and extra bibbilical areas arent nothing new.

but if get to it will look into the four horsemen and these are spoken of in zechariah.

 

[Hitch]

i didnt see that. a famine. that isnt new at all. dearths in the ot and extra bibbilical areas arent nothing new.

but if get to it will look into the four horsemen and these are spoken of in zechariah.

The truth is Lindsey among a large cast of characters at the time were promoting massive numbers of deaths by starvation worldwide leading directly to WWIII.
Is there a Hebrew word for ooops?

 

[jasoncran]

The truth is Lindsey among a large cast of characters at the time were promoting massive numbers of deaths by starvation worldwide leading directly to WWIII.
Is there a Hebrew word for ooops?

no but i would say a yiddish word that isnt too nice but not curse word too. smuck or smendrake. when i acted stupid my dad would call me that.

 

[Hitch]

Ven er itz tsvey mol azoy klug ,volt er geven a goylem!

 

[Gazelle]

WE ARE THE GENERATION HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!

I say that because, unmistakably, for the first time in history, all the signs are coming together at an accelerated rate.
What do I mean? Look around you and see;

* Earthquakes are increasing in frequency; the greatest period for quakes in history is forecast for 1982.

* Famine spreads as population explodes.

* Pollution threatens our survival.

* Israel has been miraculously reborn as a nation

* The U>S> is fading as a superpower.

* The Red Chinese continue to build their awesome army.

* Arabs and all the worlds muslims threaten a war that would destroy the state of Israel.

* All the worlds powers appear ready to involve themselves in a Middle East war because of their need for oil.

* The European community of 10 grows stronger and begins to doubt the effectiveness of the U>S> as an ally.

* Nuclear holocaust seems more possible every day.

All these signs and many more which are just visible point to the fact that this generation is the one that will see the end of the present world and the return of Jesus Christ

I fail to find anything out of place, myself.

I wonder what drives your fear in this...and why you insist upon making fun of those who believe the Bible does say this, and that Christ actually did give us these signs to know the timing of His return?

I already showed, in another thread, how the charts do show not only an increase in number but also in strength of earthquakes. If their forecast for 1982 was wrong, that was on them, not Lindsey, imo.

Famine does continue to spread, even today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine There could not have been the famines we have today back then because we didn't have the population we have today. We just hit 7 billion residents!

Pollution has just this year I think, been found to have polluted our oceans at a far greater depth than imagined... for instance... land fills...who doesn't live "near one" ?

To make fun of someone who is quoting a prophecy by Christ, just because it happened (to us some years ago) is ludicrous. It was still in the future, until 1948, when Christ prophesied it. Or are you doubting Christ now?

Th US IS fading as a superpower. We have a president that thinks he needs to bow and apologize for our former greatness and who is bent on taking us a few notches lower... and China is becoming the most powerful.

The Red Chinese has the largest army in the world, now with numbers that are prophesied in the Bible of the land from the north that attacks Israel. They have also built a vast highway, just for moving that army south.

Arabs, Persians and all muslims have surrounded Israel with vitriol and hatred, even more pronounced in today's world than before. Iran (Persia) is so confident that the USA is so weak, that it outwardly states it will soon blow Israel to bits. All the "arab spring" results have brought about muslim rule, and eliminated any ruler who was even semi-friendly to the US and Israel. That sounds pretty strong to me.

While those countries don't want to play nice with the USA, secretly they want US to take care of Iran so they can take all the oil...and Iran of course is biding it's time to take the Iraqi oil...

The European community does continue to increase in power, whether it has financial issues or not. It had Pres Clinton sign all our rights to private property ownership away, Bush reinstated them, Obama, if he hasn't already agreed with the EU, wants to sign that agreement again (no sovereign rights of citizens to own land.) Obama continues to ask the EU to determine things for us, going by their laws instead of Constitution's. The EU has the world divided into 10 regions. Remember the Amero? That was to be our region's money. There isn't any one I know who didn't think the United Nations was this prophecy fulfilled, and then as it expanded without all the other prophecies...we scratched our heads. .. and then with the continued development and the EU... well it's one of those things that God enlightens as events unfold. This "group" of people (obviously not the same living persons all along) have from the inception determined to have a One World Government...even from before it was the World Council of Nations etc.

But again, why the hatred of those that believe Christ is returning? I personally think it's fear that drives it....and I can understand that, if one isn't ready for Christ to return. Fear often drives sarcasm.

So try and take down another preacher. You can also try and pick apart what I've posted. No problem with me... your issues are with God, imo.

I'm done.

 

[reba]

Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Not afraid of failed prophets prophecies.

 

[jasoncran]

I fail to find anything out of place, myself.

I wonder what drives your fear in this...and why you insist upon making fun of those who believe the Bible does say this, and that Christ actually did give us these signs to know the timing of His return?

I already showed, in another thread, how the charts do show not only an increase in number but also in strength of earthquakes. If their forecast for 1982 was wrong, that was on them, not Lindsey, imo.

Famine does continue to spread, even today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine There could not have been the famines we have today back then because we didn't have the population we have today. We just hit 7 billion residents!

Pollution has just this year I think, been found to have polluted our oceans at a far greater depth than imagined... for instance... land fills...who doesn't live "near one" ?

To make fun of someone who is quoting a prophecy by Christ, just because it happened (to us some years ago) is ludicrous. It was still in the future, until 1948, when Christ prophesied it. Or are you doubting Christ now?

Th US IS fading as a superpower. We have a president that thinks he needs to bow and apologize for our former greatness and who is bent on taking us a few notches lower... and China is becoming the most powerful.

The Red Chinese has the largest army in the world, now with numbers that are prophesied in the Bible of the land from the north that attacks Israel. They have also built a vast highway, just for moving that army south.

Arabs, Persians and all muslims have surrounded Israel with vitriol and hatred, even more pronounced in today's world than before. Iran (Persia) is so confident that the USA is so weak, that it outwardly states it will soon blow Israel to bits. All the "arab spring" results have brought about muslim rule, and eliminated any ruler who was even semi-friendly to the US and Israel. That sounds pretty strong to me.

While those countries don't want to play nice with the USA, secretly they want US to take care of Iran so they can take all the oil...and Iran of course is biding it's time to take the Iraqi oil...

The European community does continue to increase in power, whether it has financial issues or not. It had Pres Clinton sign all our rights to private property ownership away, Bush reinstated them, Obama, if he hasn't already agreed with the EU, wants to sign that agreement again (no sovereign rights of citizens to own land.) Obama continues to ask the EU to determine things for us, going by their laws instead of Constitution's. The EU has the world divided into 10 regions. Remember the Amero? That was to be our region's money. There isn't any one I know who didn't think the United Nations was this prophecy fulfilled, and then as it expanded without all the other prophecies...we scratched our heads. .. and then with the continued development and the EU... well it's one of those things that God enlightens as events unfold. This "group" of people (obviously not the same living persons all along) have from the inception determined to have a One World Government...even from before it was the World Council of Nations etc.

But again, why the hatred of those that believe Christ is returning? I personally think it's fear that drives it....and I can understand that, if one isn't ready for Christ to return. Fear often drives sarcasm.

So try and take down another preacher. You can also try and pick apart what I've posted. No problem with me... your issues are with God, imo.

I'm done.

and i posted that counter argument and why that site was wrong on quakes and also the creationist site icr whom by the is leaning to your style of eschatology denies that the quakes are increasing.

show me the verses on isreal being attacked from the north please?

is that in daniel? that is done as that was in reference to the selucid empire.

and what exactly is the aod to you?

 

[reba]

Jason i believe the Lord is returning do you hate me? You believe He is returning and i dont hate you! Gazelle believes He is returning and i dont hate Gazelle! There really is no need for such talk when ones argument is sound.

I think there are only a couple posters here that do not believe He is returning and only one who claims to be Christian says that!

 

[Hitch]

I fail to find anything out of place, myself.

Thats pathetic

I wonder what drives your fear in this

yawn

...and why you insist upon making fun of those who believe the Bible does say this, and that Christ actually did give us these signs to know the timing of His return?

Return ?? You mean rapture dont you LOL

I already showed, in another thread, how the charts do show not only an increase in number but also in strength of earthquakes. If their forecast for 1982 was wrong, that was on them, not Lindsey, imo.

Even more pathetic

Famine does continue to spread, even today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine There could not have been the famines we have today back then because we didn't have the population we have today. We just hit 7 billion residents!

Pollution has just this year I think, been found to have polluted our oceans at a far greater depth than imagined... for instance... land fills...who doesn't live "near one" ?

Anyone you know died from pollution ?

To make fun of someone who is quoting a prophecy by Christ, just because it happened (to us some years ago) is ludicrous. It was still in the future, until 1948, when Christ prophesied it. Or are you doubting Christ now?

Chapter and verse please

Th US IS fading as a superpower. We have a president that thinks he needs to bow and apologize for our former greatness and who is bent on taking us a few notches lower... and China is becoming the most powerful.

LOL You're a case

The Red Chinese has the largest army in the world, now with numbers that are prophesied in the Bible of the land from the north that attacks Israel. They have also built a vast highway, just for moving that army south.

Like i said, at 2.5 million they need 197 million more men to reach Hal's numbers

Arabs, Persians and all muslims have surrounded Israel with vitriol and hatred, even more pronounced in today's world than before. Iran (Persia) is so confident that the USA is so weak, that it outwardly states it will soon blow Israel to bits. All the "arab spring" results have brought about muslim rule, and eliminated any ruler who was even semi-friendly to the US and Israel. That sounds pretty strong to me.

While those countries don't want to play nice with the USA, secretly they want US to take care of Iran so they can take all the oil...and Iran of course is biding it's time to take the Iraqi oil...

The European community does continue to increase in power, whether it has financial issues or not. It had Pres Clinton sign all our rights to private property ownership away, Bush reinstated them, Obama, if he hasn't already agreed with the EU, wants to sign that agreement again (no sovereign rights of citizens to own land.) Obama continues to ask the EU to determine things for us, going by their laws instead of Constitution's. The EU has the world divided into 10 regions. Remember the Amero? That was to be our region's money. There isn't any one I know who didn't think the United Nations was this prophecy fulfilled, and then as it expanded without all the other prophecies...we scratched our heads. .. and then with the continued development and the EU... well it's one of those things that God enlightens as events unfold. This "group" of people (obviously not the same living persons all along) have from the inception determined to have a One World Government...even from before it was the World Council of Nations etc.

Do you wear a tin foil hat? Interesting you have dropped the notion of the fabled Revived Roman Empire and replaced it, as of the writing of this work Hal was still confident enough to entitle a chapter The Rise of the Roman Empire II. You obviously missed the memo.

But again, why the hatred of those that believe Christ is returning?

Your tactics are as sinful as they are disgusting, you should be ashamed

I personally think it's fear that drives it....and I can understand that, if one isn't ready for Christ to return. Fear often drives sarcasm.

Sin drives false witness

So try and take down another preacher. You can also try and pick apart what I've posted. No problem with me... your issues are with God, imo.

Your opinion is worthless

I'm done.

 

[jasoncran]

clinton signed our rights to the eu? where do you get this.look in general the democrats are center left not left!

learn from the aussies here and canadians and the real communists and socialists that we have here! before making that statement.

 

[Hitch]

But again, why the hatred of those that believe Christ is returning?

Time to back up your charge jr.

Back it or or be exposed


You can use any of my posts here or from any other site anywhere on the web. I only post under this handle.

 

[Hitch]

I knew this would happen. I wrote in the Late Great Planet Earth that' ... as the United States loses power western Europe will be forced to unite and become the standard -bearer' It appears the U.S. is now a second class military power and we can no longer challenge Russia in each troubled area.
This became painfully evident during Russia's recent uncontested invasion of Afganistan

pg 118


Well Hal, you're off there by matter of degrees, about 180 of them.:toofunny