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loosing faith

Oats

Oats

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I know that I'm not the most unfortunate person in the world, nor am I the most important. some of you know the situation with my brother and it has been slowly eating me alive.

For those of you who don't know he and I are schizophrenic. I am not sure how this exactly manifest itself in him, but I know the results, He is completely out of touch with reality. He hasn't always been like the because it starts to take place during puberty, at that time he was incarcerated for a strong armed robbery, he was locked up for 6 years and never had any visits until the very end.

At that time I was doing similar things and my schizophrenia started to set in. Not to soon afterwards I was taken into the group home where I was put on medicine, I hardly saw my family....

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My brother was recently locked up again and will be once again soon....

it is really hurting my faith because i feel like no one cares....i get so confused, and frustrated....

i am at my wits end and just want to leave religion alone altogether :nono2


people care about your problems, as long as you dont talk about them
 
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For what it's worth, in the short few months that I have been visiting this site I can say that what I know of you I like and I do care. I enjoy your posts and discussions on this site and I've learned to respect you.

Don't lose heart. God certainly cares and he is in control. Always remember that no matter what. He will never leave you. He will never forsake you. Lay your troubles at His feet and let Him take them from you.

"Come unto me all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." This is a promise from Jesus himself and he never lies.
 
hello oats.

i dont think i have red any of your posts.
i am diagnosed paranoid schizofrenic for the past seven or so years i have been locked up by free will for as far as you or i can call it that.
been on drugs been beaten up been separeted been banned(right now i am a bit emotional due to another issue from another forum for people with schizophrnia)

not to long ago i posted a topic at another christian forum for as far as it can be called christian' it had the title "concrete faith" i was told there is no such thing as that.

lately my mind has strongly changed opinion or came back to as it was and my faith is concreet as it can be. with all that comes to look with that..

what allways kept me strong is tha thought that it is not gode's fault: all of the pain and terror down here on earth. cause if you go to think ogf it it is people hurting people and not god. but offcourse god did created human kind.

what am i saying?

i lots of times told myself "noone said that it would be easy"

listening to you reminds me of all the ones who were locked up, put on a cross, bitten in the hand, cappitated. and such. i allways see a relation to people with schizoprenia in that directly..

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my brother about a half a year ago ended up at the intensive care due to an overdose of drug(ghb) nearly died. when he told me i first thought he was kiddin me and still now it doesnt reallt seem to get through to me :'

i gues there is a lot of text in the bible that you could associate with schizophrenia such as: "torn from the foundation of the world", "walked in ridicule" and i am sure there are many more.

i wonder here why you should loose faith or hope in "religion" (or life?) actually i think you should be seeking it more now then ever, and then i dont mean all the horrostories. but the oners you can relate to. like the letters from peter and paulus. and make sure that you do not blaim god for the things happenin here on earth

sry i rest this here./ i hope you is ok and know that you are not alone, not to get you crazier:nod.

last. i seriously think that if you go check out why you have all these negative things in your life that the cause(s) of that lay much closer to the humans lving today around you today opr in the past then with god. for as far as i know the only thing god did is create all or is allif it was never created..

i wish you all you need.
 
Oats said:
it is really hurting my faith because i feel like no one cares....i get so confused, and frustrated....

i am at my wits end and just want to leave religion alone altogether :nono2
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My youngest son is paranoid schizophrenic, he was diagnosed at age 14, that was 15 years ago.

I often thought people didnt' care. To some extent, maybe they dont (each life has enough troubles of it's own).

But even those who DO care, just don't know what to do to help. And face it, schizophrenia is a scary term. I found it best to NOT tell people of Bryan's diagnosis, instead I'd just tell them that he had some troubles. He was also learning disabled to a degree as well as developmentally delayed - those things I'd tell them. I'd save the "s" word for later, after they got to know him.

But I totally understand your feelings. If ya want to give up on religion, fine. Just don't give up on Christ. ;)
 
Oats, try to slow down the momentum of these thoughts of yours. They can snowball and leave you despondent to the point of making a tragic decision. You know the Truth. It is in you. He is in you. You know you need to cling to Him in times like these. I can't say anything that you don't already know, but it needs to go from your head to your heart.

You've shared a lot with us on this board, and I know that many of us have tried to help you feel loved and accepted. You've got to believe that we care about you.
 
i understand, but i wish i could be healed

i get voices that tell me i'm God or the devil...they wont go away...

i'm not sure of minds outside my own

i think God has shown himself to me but the voices hurt and suck
 
My son's meds are very effective in stopping that. BUT, 15 years of those meds have taken a toll on his liver - nothing bad yet, but the doctors are watching it.

Try to remember that those voices are not to be listened to... I have a similar problem with voices, the voices of one or two people in MY life who have a similar effect on me.
 
Oats, never give up on God. Jesus knows what you are going through. Remember His own family accused Him of being "beside Himself"/mentally unstable. So He knows what it feels like to be treated as being mentally unstable. He also knows what it feels like to be treated like the worst of criminals. He has been there, but He pressed on and He wants you to press on too. This life is short so keep a focus on the life and blessings to come. There is a day coming Oats when you are going to be totally healed forever. You will experience no more voices, no more pain, no more troubles, and no more fears, but until that day comes we are asked by God to just hold on and trust Him. This world is filled with all sorts of troubles, but there are also a multitude of joys. Look for the joys around you.

From your posts you sound like a very mature, good hearted young man. Oats that is worth more than all Bill Gates, Donald Trump or any other "sound minded" rich man has. You have a treasure, a wonderful treasure. Remember it is the heart that counts to God.

It sounds like you also have a "thorn in your side" just as Paul did and you want rid of it just as he did. But this is what he said about it, "Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. <SUP id=en-NKJV-29028 class=versenum>9</SUP> And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. <SUP id=en-NKJV-29029 class=versenum>10</SUP> Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong." 2Cor. 12:8-10.

Oats, I can`t imagine the struggles you have. I know it must be extremely hard, but don`t give up! I don`t know how to deal with the voices since I have never experienced that before but just keep praying for a healing but also if medicine helps take that. I`ve read that high doses of a vitamin B complex help, so it might be worth experimenting, but I think that may just help ease the symptoms rather than provide a cure, but some relief is good.

I used to have a neighbor who had paranoid schinophrenia and I cared about her a lot. It`s been many years ago but I still think about her, but as Pizzaguy said, it is often difficult for people to know how to help so even though people DO care, it is sometimes hard to know how to show it. When my neighbor was on her medication, it was much easier for people to communicate and relate to her, but when she got off her medication, it was difficult to communicate with her. Yet, I understand from her experiences that medication has strong and undesirable side effects so she would sometimes go off it, but I think to maintain communication with other people and to stay out of the hospital, it may be good to stay on the medication for your own benefit.

Oats, I will pray for you, my dear brother!
 
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