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Lords Supper - Communion

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Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Rom 3:25 God sent Christ to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
(NOTE: Propitiation = to make reconciliation via atoning sacrifice)

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(NOTE: KJV Dictionary Definition: remission = Forgiveness; pardon; that is, the giving up of the punishment due to a crime; as the remission of sins. Matt 26)

Lk 22:
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Jesus implements Lord's Supper/Communion ordinance

Jn 6:
47 Verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

48 I am that bread of life.
(NOTE: Spiritual bread)

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
(NOTE: They ate the heavenly manna EVERYDAY! And when it was their time, died)

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
(NOTE: Spiritual bread)

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
(NOTE: He Pre-exisited as God Jn 1:1. Christ is from everlasting Micah 5:2)

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
(NOTE: If you don't partake in this Christ given communion ordinance, You'll have "NO LIFE" in you)

1 Cor 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: "this is my body, which is broken for you": "this do in remembrance of me".

1 Cor 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
(NOTE: In the Lord's Supper/communion we "Remember" the past. The covenant that brings us the forgiveness of sins was ratified, or "cut," by the shedding of Jesus blood & His broken body. And forever sealed in resurrection power. When we partake, we look forward to the future: "you do show the Lord's death until he comes")

We are saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus Finished sin payment & resurrection. The sacraments themselves do not save us. Communion spiritually "nourishes & sustains" those already born again, "His Church/Body".

Psalms 105:37 They ate the LAMB & the next day: Although many were old ""NOT 1 WAS FEEBLE AMOUNG THEM""

Question: Are you a believer? Are you sickly or feeling ill? Have you been partaking in Communion REGULARLY?

Question 2: If you had were hungry & close starvation, would 1 meal completly restore your health?

The longer its been since you last partook in the Lords Supper or the sicker you are right now. The more often you should enter into Communion with the Lord!

The Temple Priests ate the showbread weekly Lev 24:
8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
9 And it shall be Aaron's and his sons'; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
 
Are you suggesting that communion is some sort of faith healing tool?
 
Are you suggesting that communion is some sort of faith healing tool?

KJV Dictionary Definition: COMMUNION, n.

1. Fellowship intercourse between two persons or more; interchange of transactions, or offices; a state of giving and receiving; agreement; concord
(NOTE: I believe partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion is a sacred undertaking)

1 Cor 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
(NOTE: My view here is: The Lords Sinless body was, BROKEN, for the spiritual & physical restitution of every believer. And thru Faith we appropriate these blessings)

1 Cor 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
(NOTE Other like verses Mat 26:28, Mk 1:4, Acts 10:43. I believe scripture proclaims thru faith in His spilled, BLOOD, we receive remission/pardon from our sins)

1 Cor 11:30 For this cause many are weak & sickly among you, & many sleep.
(NOTE: Some were sick, some had died. Why? Because they had sinned? NO! Because, they missed understanding the spiritual & physical blessing that comes from partaking in this Christ given ordinance)

Matt 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
(NOTE Christ took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses. The question now becomes: How do we appropriate Esaias promise? I believe the answer is thru Faith. Partaking in the Lords Supper is one of many faith actions)

Isaiah 53:4 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
(NOTE: Isa written PRE-death ARE healed. Thru Faith in His broken body, we are healed)

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
(NOTE: Peter written POST-death WERE healed)

I close with these verses:
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
(NOTE: It's impossible to please God without faith)

Mat 8:13 And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
(NOTE: Jesus told the centurion: As you/ve believed, so be it done unto thee. Without the faith action nothing can be received)

Proverbs 4:
20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.

22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

So, my shout answer is:

YES! I believe there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion

As sure as I am, that there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper. I'm just as certain, if a person believes there isn't, they will receive as they believe. Peace
 
KJV Dictionary Definition: COMMUNION, n.

1. Fellowship intercourse between two persons or more; interchange of transactions, or offices; a state of giving and receiving; agreement; concord
(NOTE: I believe partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion is a sacred undertaking)

1 Cor 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
(NOTE: My view here is: The Lords Sinless body was, BROKEN, for the spiritual & physical restitution of every believer. And thru Faith we appropriate these blessings)

1 Cor 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
(NOTE Other like verses Mat 26:28, Mk 1:4, Acts 10:43. I believe scripture proclaims thru faith in His spilled, BLOOD, we receive remission/pardon from our sins)

1 Cor 11:30 For this cause many are weak & sickly among you, & many sleep.
(NOTE: Some were sick, some had died. Why? Because they had sinned? NO! Because, they missed understanding the spiritual & physical blessing that comes from partaking in this Christ given ordinance)

Matt 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
(NOTE Christ took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses. The question now becomes: How do we appropriate Esaias promise? I believe the answer is thru Faith. Partaking in the Lords Supper is one of many faith actions)

Isaiah 53:4 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
(NOTE: Isa written PRE-death ARE healed. Thru Faith in His broken body, we are healed)

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
(NOTE: Peter written POST-death WERE healed)

I close with these verses:
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
(NOTE: It's impossible to please God without faith)

Mat 8:13 And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
(NOTE: Jesus told the centurion: As you/ve believed, so be it done unto thee. Without the faith action nothing can be received)

Proverbs 4:
20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.

22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

So, my shout answer is:

YES! I believe there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion

As sure as I am, that there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper. I'm just as certain, if a person believes there isn't, they will receive as they believe. Peace
I agree that communion is nourishment for our spiritual being...that part of us that communes with God.

I don't know about the physical,,,but I liked Truthfrees post.
 
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KJV Dictionary Definition: COMMUNION, n.

1. Fellowship intercourse between two persons or more; interchange of transactions, or offices; a state of giving and receiving; agreement; concord
(NOTE: I believe partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion is a sacred undertaking)

1 Cor 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
(NOTE: My view here is: The Lords Sinless body was, BROKEN, for the spiritual & physical restitution of every believer. And thru Faith we appropriate these blessings)

1 Cor 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
(NOTE Other like verses Mat 26:28, Mk 1:4, Acts 10:43. I believe scripture proclaims thru faith in His spilled, BLOOD, we receive remission/pardon from our sins)

1 Cor 11:30 For this cause many are weak & sickly among you, & many sleep.
(NOTE: Some were sick, some had died. Why? Because they had sinned? NO! Because, they missed understanding the spiritual & physical blessing that comes from partaking in this Christ given ordinance)

Matt 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
(NOTE Christ took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses. The question now becomes: How do we appropriate Esaias promise? I believe the answer is thru Faith. Partaking in the Lords Supper is one of many faith actions)

Isaiah 53:4 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
(NOTE: Isa written PRE-death ARE healed. Thru Faith in His broken body, we are healed)

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
(NOTE: Peter written POST-death WERE healed)

I close with these verses:
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
(NOTE: It's impossible to please God without faith)

Mat 8:13 And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
(NOTE: Jesus told the centurion: As you/ve believed, so be it done unto thee. Without the faith action nothing can be received)

Proverbs 4:
20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.

22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

So, my shout answer is:

YES! I believe there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper/Communion

As sure as I am, that there are spiritual & physical benefits in partaking in the Lords Supper. I'm just as certain, if a person believes there isn't, they will receive as they believe. Peace


Using your definition of communion, how exactly does one have "fellowship; intercourse; interchange of transactions, or offices; a state of giving and receiving; agreement; concord" with a mere symbol? Wouldn't that be the height of idolatry?
 
Using your definition of communion, how exactly does one have "fellowship; intercourse; interchange of transactions, or offices; a state of giving and receiving; agreement; concord" with a mere symbol? Wouldn't that be the height of idolatry?

Passover & The Lords Supper/Communion meals are both, a God given ordinance = decree/law. Given as meals of memorial/remembrance.

Exodus 25:30 And thou shalt set upon the table shewbread before me alway.
(NOTE: Shewbread: also called bread of the Presence)

Lev 24:
8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
(NOTE: Shewbread: a an everlasting covenant & shadow of Christ the true bread of life Jn 6:35)

9 And it shall be Aaron's and his sons'; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
(NOTE: The Lord gave the Temple Priests a perpetual ordinance = decree/law, to eat the showbread weekly)

For Jews this memorial/remembrance of the deliverance from slavery & 10th plague/angel of death.

For Christians deliverance from sin & death

Like Passover the Last Supper/communion ended with the singing Hallel hymns (Ps 113-118 - Mat 26:30 & Mk 14:26)

Remembrance
1 Cor 11:
24 When Jesus he had given thanks, "he brake the bread, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you" "this do in remembrance of me"

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as ye drink it, "in remembrance of me"

26 "For as often as ye eat this bread & drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come"

In the Lord's Supper we "Remember" the past. The covenant that brings us the forgiveness of sins was ratified, or "cut" by the shedding of Jesus sinless blood & the breaking of Jesus sinless body.

"Remembrance" itself is a covenantal word. In the Lord's Supper we "Remember" that our blessings were purchased through a costly price.

Generally when we go to REMEMBER the death of a fallen soldier, a family member or loved one. It's a time when we feel grief & loss.

REMEMBER: JESUS HAS RISEN!

The Remembrance in the Lords Supper. Is a time for CELEBRATION! Through our partaking & remembrance via The Lords Supper/Communion We are envoking the NEW COVENANT.

Walpole, I believe the following scripture speak directly in answering your question:

1 Cor 10:
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
(NOTE: THE CUP OF BLESSING "we drink" & BREAD "we eat" in obedience to this Christ given ordinance = decree/law. Is a faith statement of our interchange of transactions/intercourse/COMMUNION)

17 For we being many are 1 bread, & 1 one body: for we are all partakers of that 1 bread

18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices (The PRIESTS) partakers of the altar? (Lev 7:6 & 7:15)
 
Yes, Walpole, I personally believe in a Real Presence, and I think that is United Methodist position, Real Presence, but it's a mystery, no transubstantiation to explain it.
 
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UMC believes Real Presence, Doesn' t try to explain how

Oh this autocorrect is killing me
 
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The Catholic / Orthodox belief in the Real Presence is different from the Methodist / Protestant belief in the Real Presence.

Our understanding of it will differ I'm sure. But I think we believe it is more than just a symbolic gesture and sipping a bit of wine and eating a cracker.
Wikipedia says this about the United Methodist Understanding of Holy Communion - "Of particular note here is the church's unequivocal recognition of the anamnesis as more than just a memorial but, rather, a re-presentation of Christ Jesus and His Love." I think we agree on that.
 
Adding to the above:

Wikipedia says the celebrating UM minister prays over the elements saying
"Pour out your Holy Spirit on us gathered here, and on these gifts of bread and wine. Make them be for us the body and blood of Christ"

The Catholic priest prays over the elements and says
"Make holy, therefore, these gifts, we pray, by sending down your Spirit upon them like the dewfall,so that they may become for us the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ."
 
Adding to the above:

Wikipedia says the celebrating UM minister prays over the elements saying
"Pour out your Holy Spirit on us gathered here, and on these gifts of bread and wine. Make them be for us the body and blood of Christ"

The Catholic priest prays over the elements and says
"Make holy, therefore, these gifts, we pray, by sending down your Spirit upon them like the dewfall,so that they may become for us the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ."


...Save one has valid orders and the other does not. Hence one is communing with bread and wine while the other with Jesus Christ.
 
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