Yes, plus OB claim to be big believers in the OT law, which commands capital punishment in Exodus 21, so it is obvious that Exodus 20: 13 means "Thou shalt not murder."Eli1+, I think that self-defense can be based in the command, Love your neighbor as yourself. Why? Well, if your neighbor takes out a gun and threatens to murder you for your money and possessions and if you love yourself, as God commands you to, you have every right before the law and God to defend your life as well as your family and others that your neighbor might rob and murder because we love God. Jesus' words tell us:
Mar 12:29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mar 12:30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’
Mar 12:31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Again, equating murder with killing murderers is committing false equivalence.