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Bible Study Lovest Thou Me: The Prime Requisite -Netchaplain

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Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.†“He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me . . . .†“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word . . . .†“He who does not love Me does not keep My words . . . .†(John 14:15, 21, 23, 24).

Considering the above statements of Christ, it would be not presumptuous to conclude that, to love Christ is to obey Him and to obey Christ is to love Him!

It’s helpful to be aware of the fact that our obedience to God is not to be out of obligation, but desire (Phil 2:13). We need not to feel we owe Him for our salvation and therefore, somehow repay Him. As we should realize, repayment is not possible, nor is it required. It’s a certainty that those who are saved would give their all for Christ’s atonement and therefore, all our works would suffice, but this would render salvation as a merit instead of a gift. This is why the responsibility of our salvation, in obtaining and retaining it, is on the finished works of Christ. Our works do not present a medium of obtaining but is evidence of something already obtained.

The greatest accomplishment anyone can perform in this life is to “love Christ†for He Himself has stated, “You shall love the LORD your God . . . .†“This is the first and great commandment†(Mat 22:37, 38). This brings us to the most important question, “What is the prime requisite to loving God?†The answer is in Christ’s second commandment, namely, “Love your neighbor as yourself†(v 39). Since obeying Christ is loving Him, neighborly love summarily comprehends loving Christ, for the command He wants us to obey is neighborly-love: “This is My commandment, that you love one another . . . .†(John 15:12). Other supportive Scripture is “If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also†(1 John 4:20, 21).

The love we are to love with is beyond our natural (Grk:phileo, pileo-don't know how to delete smiley face) love. It is within the Lord’s divine (Grk:agape) love we are to live. Divine love is not us trying to measure up to the life of Christ but allowing Him to be our life, by our “yielding to God†(Rom 6:13). It is not our attempting to live like Christ but that He does the living, in and by, us. Our lives are overlaid by His and so, all the good works (fruit) are from Christ and are performed by Him—using us. We are bearers of the fruit (works), not producers, for the vine (Christ) produces the fruit and the branches (we) bear it. “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear (not produce) much fruit†(John 15:8). Yield, not wield!

Christ asked Peter three times if he loved Him. The first two times were in the Greek usage for “agapeâ€, which can be only transferred, not produced, because it originates from Divinity. The third time Christ asked Peter if he loved Him was in the Greek “phileo†usage. In this passage (John 21:15-17) I believe the Lord was making a distinction between His divine-love and man’s natural-love so that He can teach us to live by His love, for Christ’s command to “love your neighbor†is in the Greek usage “agapeâ€.

As it is known, neighborly-love (agape) is the “royal law†(Jam 2:8) and as shown above, the significance concerning works, lies within the distinction of “who is doing the works?†It’s not, we do the works—by God, but God does the works—by us! We are the vessel (Act 9:15), not the contents!

I found this explanation to be most accurate and conducive for spiritual growth in “the image of Christâ€: “Our Father is going to teach us, mainly through personal failure, that the life we live is the life of our Lord Jesus alone. The Christian life is not our living a life like Christ, or our trying to be Christ-like, nor is it Christ giving us the power to live a life like His; but it is Christ Himself living His own life through us; 'no longer I, but Christ.’â€

“He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked†(1 John 2:6). To “walk just as He walked†does not facilitate the means of coming to Christ but is evidence of one who is in Christ, because it can only be performed by Him (John 3:2).

Much of what the believer chooses is directed by the Holy Spirit, “so that you cannot do the things that you would†(Gal 5:17). The desie for God’s will to be done by our lives does not originate from us, “for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for [His] good pleasure†(Phil 2:13). <><
 
Hi netchaplain,

I found your reasoning accurate as well, but what I don't like is the fact that I'm so slow to learn to trust and have patience for God to do His work in me, and the fact that I fail way too much. As I view myself and the abundant falling short of God's standard, I realize that I have a lot of pride, and I agree that learning through failure will bring me to the foot of the cross. Only God is good. Thank you for a wonderful post.

- Davies
 
Hi Davies and appreciate your reply! It's helpful to know that none of God's work in us is contingent on anything we do, for He only uses what He brings, not what He finds!

Even "if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things" (1Jo 3:20).
 
Hi netchaplain,

I found your reasoning accurate as well, but what I don't like is the fact that I'm so slow to learn to trust and have patience for God to do His work in me, and the fact that I fail way too much. As I view myself and the abundant falling short of God's standard, I realize that I have a lot of pride, and I agree that learning through failure will bring me to the foot of the cross. Only God is good. Thank you for a wonderful post.

- Davies


Netchaplain responce to this, is correct about this Davies. Don’t look to yourself look to the Lord Jesus. Don’t look to what you have not, or can not over come. Look to what the Lord has over come in the Name of Jesus Christ in the flesh, for our sakes. Just as the first commandment of Love the Lord your God. You can’t fulfill that to the Father’s satisfaction, Jesus has fulfilled the first commandment to the Father’s satisfaction. Look to Jesus and what He has fulfilled. Not to your own and what you can’t fulfill. If you remember, Paul speaks of his own infirmities and the glory therein, because it is the Lord who has done it already. He has done what we were not able, so that in Him we are able to be as He is, in the site of the Father. The world, and yourself doesn’t see you as the Father sees you through His Beloved Son, in the Holy Spirit. But what the world will see in do time, as you be with the Lord, and the Lord be with you, is that the Lord is with you.

Be of good courage my friend, the deal is done, its just a matter of you coming into the knowledge and understanding thereof. The Lord died on that Cross because He knows already you can’t do it. Only the Lord God Himself can restore you into His Presence.
 
Netchaplian thanks for the posting.
It seems to me that there might be more here when it comes to obedience and commandment. There is also when the Lord asked Peter:
 
John:21:15: So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16: He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17: He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.


Hence a commandment to Peter to feed the Lord’s sheep, but when Peter asked about what was John to do.


John:21:20: Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
21: Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22: Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.


Hence no man is the judge of the Lord’s commandment to another, nor the man’s obedience thereof.
 
Hi DPM! Thanks for your replies and Gods blessings to you.

As I can see you agree that it is all vicarious from Christ, for His righteousness, holiness, justification and sanctification is all imputed, not imparted. (1Cr 1:30)

It has been well stated that when Christ comes in, He doesn't use what He finds but what He brings. It's also instructional to realize that "love never functions according to the quality of its object but according to its nature." -mjs
 
Hi DPM! Thanks for your replies and Gods blessings to you.

As I can see you agree that it is all vicarious from Christ, for His righteousness, holiness, justification and sanctification is all imputed, not imparted. (1Cr 1:30)

It has been well stated that when Christ comes in, He doesn't use what He finds but what He brings. It's also instructional to realize that "love never functions according to the quality of its object but according to its nature." -mjs

netchaplain
thanks for the reply

Absolutely it is by His virtue, being with us, not of ourselves. I mean its not our life that is valuable it’s the Life that Christ has given us that is valuable. The old man dies away, and the new man is lived. The old man never changes, it is the new man that replaces the old man, and the new man is of Christ Jesus not of ourselves.
 
Hi DP! Yes, understanding the vicariousness of Christ is pertinent to learning the "Identification Truths" concerning our position in Christ with our Father.

I believe the more fully we understand these truths (identification and positional ) the closer be will be to where God wants us in our growth in Christ's image and our personal relationship with God, which increases the effectiveness our outreach.

I'm about to write an article for posting which relates to our identification with Christ entitled, "The Deep Things of God:1 Corinthians 2:10".

God's blessings to you and yours!
 
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