Bible Study mark of the beast or antichrist? 666

[Corn Pop]

If it wasn't for the Church today also, what were those of Rev 2:10, and Rev 3:10 going to be rewarded for, and have crowns for?

Have you considered who the 24 elders of the Church that are present with Jesus in heaven really are? Did they have lives way back when? Are they seeing, talking (Rev 4:10-11), and casting their crowns before the feet of Jesus in that future time just prior to the tribulation to come upon all the world.
Do they say in Rev 5:9 that Jesus had redeemed them to God by His blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation? And miracle upon miracle they're with Jesus prior to the time when the abomination sits promoting himself as the holiness of God, and will never be subject to the mark of the beast because they're in heaven before that even begins.

So you tell me. Who do you think are the 24?. I have no idea. The 12 Apostles and 12 others? Jesus did say they will sit on thrones.

So Jesus ressurection was the ressurection, and his coming was later. Jesus said he is the ressurection.

 

[Eugene]

Have you considered who the 24 elders of the Church that are present with Jesus in heaven really are? Did they have lives way back when? Are they seeing, talking (Rev 4:10-11), and casting their crowns before the feet of Jesus in that future time just prior to the tribulation to come upon all the world.
Do they say in Rev 5:9 that Jesus had redeemed them to God by His blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation?

So you tell me. Who do you think are the 24?. I have no idea. The 12 Apostles and 12 others? Jesus did say they will sit on thrones.
So Jesus ressurection was the ressurection, and his coming was later. Jesus said he is the ressurection.

If this makes sense to you, our experience of the resurrection, and example of it is regardless of its time follows the manner of 1 Thes 4:16-17, the dead in Christ first, and then we which remain alive caught up to meet them in the air,

The 24 elders are from all peoples; every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation that have been caught up to God out of the Church because the remained faithful unto death (Rev 2:10) and then there will be others kept from the temptation to come upon all the world because they faithfully kept God's word (Rev 3:10). Notice something else here is that these two portions of the Church; Philadelphia & Smyrna are the ones said to have crowns out of the seven divisions of the Church.