Marrying 10 Times

[Lewis]

Woman Accused of Marrying 10 Times Without Divorcing Pleads Not Guilty to Felony Charges

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...urt-New-York-City-Husband-Wife-299337801.html

 

[Lewis]

What is an authentic marriage anyhow. A random person, mostly athiest these days, says your now husband and wife.

If i ever get married its not going on file and gov records. God the Father can be the celebrant and marry me and my future wife, and Christ can be the faithful one witness needed.

And how are you going to do that ?

 

[Lewis]

Easy. We give each other our vows and God is witness. Why do i need a priest or athiest to marry us and write it down on a piece of paper and put it on file?

Because you live in America and it is the law to have a legit person marry you, if you are going to marry. And also why can't you get a ordained minister of God marry you, what's wrong with that ?

 

[jasonc]

he doesn't live in america

 

[jasonc]

Im still wondering how it is against the law to be 'married' without a legit celebrant, when at the same time you are officially 'not married'.
How can you be 'not married' and break the law for being 'not married' if its not officially recognised as a marriage..

you don't get the legal recognition. ie if she is dying and has no will. you don't get squat. I don't need a will in my state. it goes to the surviving spouse. also medical decisions. now yes you can find a way around that legally by powers of attorneys. wills and trusts.

you also don't get her pension if she dies first. or life insurance if she doesn't want you to have it. my spouse has to consent to that.if she says nothing it automatically goes to her.

 

[Deborah13]

Im still wondering how it is against the law to be 'married' without a legit celebrant, when at the same time you are officially 'not married'.
How can you be 'not married' and break the law for being 'not married' if its not officially recognised as a marriage..

She has not been charged with polygamy but with fraud. In order to receive a marriage license one is stating that they are not currently married to someone else. She lied about this so she committed fraud. She was only legally married to the first one seeing she never divorced him.

 

[Lewis]

Im still wondering how it is against the law to be 'married' without a legit celebrant, when at the same time you are officially 'not married'.
How can you be 'not married' and break the law for being 'not married' if its not officially recognised as a marriage..

Every time you have sex with a different person you marry them, because you become one flesh when penetration takes place.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Easy. We give each other our vows and God is witness. Why do i need a priest or athiest to marry us and write it down on a piece of paper and put it on file?

From an old married man to a young pup.......you're going to need a lot more than that to stay married. Trust me on this one.

A vow taken lightly is one that will crumble easily.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I think people should get legally married, but the legal tradition, based on old covenant scripture but horribly misapplied, that the man has to continue to support a wife who by her choosing doesn't want to be with the man is just plain stupid.

 

[Deborah13]

Every time you have sex with a different person you marry them, because you become one flesh when penetration takes place.

Absolutely not.
Deu 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, that is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Deu 22:29 then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he hath humbled her; he may not put her away all his days.

John Gill's Commentary
and she shall be his wife; if her father and she agreed to it; and in such a case the man was not at his liberty to refuse, be she what she would, agreeable or not, handsome or ugly; he must, as the Jews express it, drink out of his pot, or marry her, if she is lame, or blind, or full of ulcers (e):

because he hath humbled her he may not put her away all his days: to all the other parts of his punishment, paying a fine of fifty shekels to the damsel's father, a dowry of the same sum to her, obligation to marry her whether he likes her or not, this is added, that he is not allowed to divorce her as long as he lives; which was permitted to other men, and this was wisely ordered to preserve chastity.

A woman is not married to her rapist in the Lord's eyes. Lies from the pulpit are the worst.

 

[Deborah13]

I think people should get legally married, but the legal tradition, based on old covenant scripture but horribly misapplied, that the man has to continue to support a wife who by her choosing doesn't want to be with the man is just plain stupid.

Where does it say that in the Law? A woman could not divorce her husband.

 

[jasonc]

Where does it say that in the Law? A woman could not divorce her husband.

he is talking about alimony. ie if I divorce my wife , she gets to keep 50% of my military retirement even if she marries a man who makes more then I do, or she makes more then I do.

 

[Deborah13]

he is talking about alimony. ie if I divorce my wife , she gets to keep 50% of my military retirement even if she marries a man who makes more then I do, or she makes more then I do.

I know what he is talking about. But I am asking where that is found in the Law of Moses. That only applied if the husband divorced the wife. But Jethro was saying that the wife doesn't want to be married to the husband. It really didn't matter what she wanted.

 

[sojourner4Christ]

Marriage was ordained by God (Genesis 2:23-24, Mark 10:6-9, 1 Corinthians 7, 1 Timothy 5:14, Hebrews 13:4). Speaking of marriage, Jesus himself said, "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" (Mark 10:9). Yet, this is exactly what the men of government do today by saying marriage is illegal; they put asunder the institution of marriage! Remember, if anyone does anything today without a license from the government, it is an illegal act; and there's a strong possibility of getting penalized, fined and imprisoned. Marriage is no exception. Marriage is illegal!

If it is God’s Will to bring two souls together in Holy Matrimony, what right does mere man have to say two souls cannot get married, until they ask the government for permission?! Until they pay the government their hard earned money to get a license to exercise God’s Will? Does mere man have authority, at law, to interpose himself, or his purported law, between God’s Will, and to bring punishment on a servant of Christ for exercising God’s Law? Could it be evil to execute the Law of God? Could it?

What is an authentic marriage anyhow. A random person, mostly athiest these days, says your now husband and wife.

We'll look at what constitutes a Godly marriage.

We give each other our vows and God is witness. Why do i need a priest or athiest to marry us and write it down on a piece of paper and put it on file?

You don't need any of that.

And also why can't you get a ordained minister of God marry you, what's wrong with that ?

Ordained by who? By what authority? In fact, if you contract with one licensed by the State (if you look to the State for the authority to do the things you do), then the State maintains a legal interest and you will render to the State...

Oh, and you probably wondering why i say what i did, is because it costs to much to get married and i dont like standing in front of lots of people.

lol Yes, the "money" requirement is but one aspect of the beast's soft white underbelly.

Because you live in America and it is the law to have a legit person marry you, if you are going to marry.

That’s true ONLY if you have submitted to that ungodly authority, rather than to Christ (which tragically is precisely the case today, where most folks are very busy ignorantly rendering unto Caesar what is rightfully due Christ). This is why you have Caesar's jack booted government thugs banging down the castle doors of its subjects, to “disappear” them off to “indefinite detention” (if not shoot them instead).

When scripture speaks of obeying and submitting ourselves to those who have the rule over us, God’s word is not talking about heathen governments, but those "rulers" within Jesus Christ's assembly. Notice carefully how scripture says these rulers "watch for your souls." Governments of men cannot govern or watch for anyone's souls, for they can only govern outward acts, not the inward being. But true spiritual leaders do watch for our souls

Those who "have the rule over you" at Hebrews 13:17 is specifically defined a few verses earlier in Hebrews 13:7, "Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation."

As we can see, scripture itself defines these "rulers" as those who speak the word of God and have faith. Secular governments avoid, and often forbid, speaking the word of God within their system through outlawing prayer in their schools and replacing it with such unrighteousness as "the theory of evolution," and by taking down the "Ten Commandments" from their courtrooms. These are not the rulers we are to submit to.

The Holy Bible tells us to let all things be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. THIS is why we have a “wedding” with a “reception” with lots of people. Not because it’s a “free food and booze” day, but because each attendee is a WITNESS to the promises made by the bride and bridegroom. Every attendee comes to the wedding aware of his own responsibility to the born again community to HELP this newly married couple in future times if and when they hit rough bumps (and we all hit rough bumps sooner or later). It’s a community network of support for the body of Christ.

But you are not required to have a public "show" of "taking vows", but you can simply be pronounced by a pastor whom you both trust and admire and who is helping you obviously to get more real with God

You don’t need any “pastor.” The pastoral calling is merely that -- a calling, one of many. It’s not a title. I have a prophetic calling, but my brothers and sisters do not call me by the label of “Prophet John.”

All that is required are witnesses (plural i.e. more than one, as per scripture). I have “facilitated” the exchanging of vows between two consenting people, in the presence of many witnesses. I am no one but a dumb sheep, not to be held “privileged” in the eyes of men.

From an old married man to a young pup.......you're going to need a lot more than that to stay married. Trust me on this one.

A vow taken lightly is one that will crumble easily.

Apples and oranges...conflating two separate issues: 1) God's requirements for marriage, and 2) Whether before Caesar's legal authority, or God's Lawful kingdom, a vow is a vow and one will thus render to his chosen authority. So choose wisely, grasshopper.

 

[jasonc]

I know what he is talking about. But I am asking where that is found in the Law of Moses. That only applied if the husband divorced the wife. But Jethro was saying that the wife doesn't want to be married to the husband. It really didn't matter what she wanted.

alimony is based on that. remember that in courts , and I have seen this twice, if a woman commits adultery and has kids. she can keep the kids and gets the $$$ . unless the man really can prove she is unfit. which I know one that did two years after the fact. that is wrong. she leaves and the man is stuck with the bills?

 

[Lewis]

Deborah if a man lays with a women they become one flesh, if penetration happens.

God's definition of marriage can be found in Genesis 2:24: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." In the Bible, the Hebrew basar is often translated as "flesh," but however it is interpreted, it always refers to the physical part of humanity. What does it mean, then, that a man and woman become "one flesh" in marriage?

The most obvious way is through sex. This is borne out in 1 Corinthians 6:16 when Paul says even a man with a prostitute becomes one flesh with her. The act of sex is a manifestation of "one flesh" physically and a metaphor for the other ways a married couple joins together.

Read more: http://www.compellingtruth.org/one-flesh-marriage.html#ixzz3X9EuTHIL

 

[jasonc]

I will have to disagree, as well my sister was married to a man that is over 30 at the age of 12 when she was raped. and will have to "divorce" him.

 

[Lewis]

C'mon you guy's didn't Jesus tell the woman she had 5 husbands ? Yes He did because she slept with 5 dudes, c'mon now.

 

[jasonc]

C'mon you guy's didn't Jesus tell the woman she had 5 husbands ? Yes He did because she slept with 5 dudes, c'mon now.

she wasn't raped.

using your argument any man who is sodomised by another man has willfully commited homosexual acts. a rapist was executed if there was a witness to that crime.

 

[Lewis]

she wasn't raped.

using your argument any man who is sodomised by another man has willfully commited homosexual acts. a rapist was executed if there was a witness to that crime.

Jason you are taking this out of context, what did Jesus say about the 5 husbands are you just going to over look that ?