Matthew 22:41 What think ye of Christ? Whose Son is he?

[hybrid]

Dear hybrid,

That's is exactly the point, you see. :-D The invisible God Father -- who is a Spirit and never change -- is manifested only thru his Son' (YHWH) physical nature!!!

GENESIS 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

this is what i'm trying to point out to you, oh stubborn one,
the son was sent by YHWH.
the son was sent in the NAME of YHWH.
the son Speaks in behalf of YHWH.

of course you're familiar with ambassadorial protocol.
the one who was sent does not speak on his own but by the NAME of the one who sent.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

in the beginning was the word and the word was with god(YHWH).

father and son since both was together in the beginning, means they are both I AM (eternal)

Also, please stop providing me with your private interpretation and doctrinal assumption, next time.

Now, do you have any Scripture to sustain your objection to my post?

Thanks

i gave you direct scriptures and simple scriptures plainly saying that god is YHWH. but can't see its simplicity because you are so engrossed with your short-circuited beliefs.

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[2Pillars]

Dear hybrid,

That's is exactly the point, you see. :-D The invisible God Father -- who is a Spirit and never change -- is manifested only thru his Son' (YHWH) physical nature!!!

GENESIS 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

this is what i'm trying to point out to you, oh stubborn one,
the son was sent by YHWH.
the son was sent in the NAME of YHWH.
the son Speaks in behalf of YHWH..

Look hardheaded one, if you want to make a claim, then back up your distorted assumption with Scripture. The scripture document us that YHWH is the Son of the invisible God. YHWH is the only God formed and made flesh who later became known as Jesus Christ.

Here's the Scripture that you been trying to dodge, deal with it!!! :-D

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD (#3068), and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God FORMED, neither shall there be after me.

Who was the Speaker (Lord #3068) in the above cited text - who was physically FORMED that ye may know and believe, in order for his chosen servants to witness? Answer my question directly.

Who was the SPEAKER in Exodus 6:2-3 the Lord (#3068) who APPEARED in person unto Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Is it YHWH? If so, why is it that you don't believe his word? Is it better for you to pervert his pronouncement to your likings?

of course you're familiar with ambassadorial protocol.
the one who was sent does not speak on his own but by the NAME of the one who sent..

See, as I have said repeatedly, you're only inserting your unfounded view into the text in vain attempt hold on into your flawed religious doctrinal faith. :roll:

Answer my question directly, slick, who was the Speaker in Exodus 6:2-3, is it YHWH? Yes or NO.


God Bless

 

[Vic C.]

hybrid and pillar... the above posts are examples of how we are not to speak to each other. Don't let the bad habits of some posters rub off on you.

Examples:

"Look hardheaded one"
"distorted assumption"
"Answer my question directly"
"your unfounded view"
"your flawed religious doctrinal faith"
"Answer my question directly, slick"
"oh stubborn one,"
" your short-circuited belief"

Nay be also be a reminder to all who debate here. Thanks you. :-D

Vic

 

[hybrid]

so who was speaking in exodus and isaiah or even to the whole of OT, you say?

and since you don't want my opinion on that... let the NT itself speaks...

hebrews 1:12

In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son,

excerpts from acts 7

2To this he replied: "Brothers and fathers, listen to me! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran. 3'Leave your country and your people,' God said, 'and go to the land I will show you.'[a]

30"After forty years had passed, an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the desert near Mount Sinai. 31When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to look more closely, he heard the Lord's voice: 32'I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.'[e] Moses trembled with fear and did not dare to look.

35"This is the same Moses whom they had rejected with the words, 'Who made you ruler and judge?' He was sent to be their ruler and deliverer by God himself, through the angel who appeared to him in the bush. 36He led them out of Egypt and did wonders and miraculous signs in Egypt, at the Red Sea[g] and for forty years in the desert.

37"This is that Moses who told the Israelites, 'God will send you a prophet like me from your own people.'[h] 38He was in the assembly in the desert, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers; and he received living words to pass on to us.

 

[2Pillars]

Dear Readers:

This is the story of the “Word†in the Beginning before God created the Heaven and the Earth thru the power of his logos.

Genesis 1:1-2 is a summary and narration of the condition of the DEEP in beginning - from darkness (death) to light (life) - BEFORE the Creation our Heaven and Earth.

Genesis 1:3 document us the bringing forth of YHWH, the Son of God -- from the invisible realm of his Father into our physical world - BEFORE anything is created or made.

This was accomplished when God spoke the WORD “Let there be Light†in the beginning of Genesis.

The Brightness of the Glory of YHWH or Jesus, was the TRUE LIGHT in the beginning (ALPHA), as he will also provide the literal light in the end (OMEGA) in the New Jerusalem to come. Revelation 21:23

YHWH or Jesus, the Son, is the only God physically formed for us to see, ref. Isaiah 43:10. He is the express physical image of the Invisible God of whom no man hath seen at anytime nor knew of his name at this time.

Below, please find my brief reconciliation of the Scriptures showing how the "Word" came about into this physical world from invisible realm of the Father - based strickly on the Scripture.

In the beginning was the Word (Light), and the Word was with God (Father), and the Word was God (Son) John 1:1

The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his work of old. Proverbs. 8:22

"And the Earth was without form (Dust) and void (Empty); and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." Genesis 1:2

The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:2

I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. Proverbs. 8:23

And God said, LET THERE BE LIGHT: and there was light. Genesis 1:3

All things were made BY him; and without him, was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3

When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Proverbs 8:24

And God saw the light that it WAS good: and God divided the light from darkness. v5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the 1st. day. Genesis 1:4-5

NOTICE: Based on the above reconciliation of three (witness) Scriptures, our heaven and earth were still null & void (empty) at this time.

The formation of the 1st. Heaven or Universe only took place on the 2nd. Day (Gen. 1:6-8) not Genesis 1:1 as others assumed. Our own universe was made on the 3rd Day (Genesis 1:9-10).


God Bless

 

[hybrid]

The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his work of old. Proverbs. 8:22

Prov 8:22-23
22 "The LORD (YHWH) possessed ME (the Word) at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.

In the beginning was the Word (Light), and the Word was with God (Father), and the Word was God (Son) John 1:1

Isa 43:10
so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he.
Before me (YHWH) no god (idol)was formed,nor will there be one after me. - NIV


the verse was hardly saying that YHWH was a formed god or a created god. for this will contradict his previous word that he is I AM (unformed/uncreated).



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[2Pillars]

Dear Readers:

The narrative of Gen. 1:1-2 is speaking of the period BEFORE the 1st Day.

Jesus speaks of this time, in the Garden of Gethsemane:

And now, O Father, glorify thou Me with Thine Own Self with the Glory which I had with Thee BEFORE the world was." John 17:5

If one believes that In the beginning God created the Heavens (Plural) BEFORE the 1st Day, then the Words of Jesus would seem to be in error.

If one believes that the 1st Firmament or Heaven was formed on the 2nd Day, then it would agree with Jesus, and would show that Jesus came into the World Before the 1st Heaven was formed.


God Bless