EvolvingChristian
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...they need to learn humility as they will have great authority under Jesus in the life yet to come. Possibility?
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Maybe some people have disabilities in this life because...
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Christ_empowered
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wow. maybe? He does say that "...the first shall become last, and the last shall become first...," so...there's that, as some sort of Scriptural backing. maybe?
That's a powerful insight. Impressive. I can't help thinking you are right. Those who get a bad deal here, get a much better deal in the next life.
Problem being for me that someone who is getting a very good deal in this life, (me), will have to suffer in the next life. The first shall be last.
Christ_empowered
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well... Matthew 20:16
also tells us that '...many are called but few are -chosen- ,' which...scares me, more than a little bit.
also tells us that '...many are called but few are -chosen- ,' which...scares me, more than a little bit.
As my agnostic wife keeps saying "but God's only interested in the chosen few, isn't he?"well... Matthew 20:16
also tells us that '...many are called but few are -chosen- ,' which...scares me, more than a little bit.
EvolvingChristian
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As they say, the lord works in mysterious ways. Who knows what's in store for us? I pray and hope it will be glorious!
EvolvingChristian
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well... Matthew 20:16
also tells us that '...many are called but few are -chosen- ,' which...scares me, more than a little bit.
I suppose only a few can truly live like Christ.
Sounds like what you're saying is that God creates some to be eternally damned and some to be eternally with Him in heaven. I don't know if I agree with that.
Isn't God interested in everyone? Seems like it. Scripture tells us that God wants all to be saved, right?
Aren't the chosen the ones who respond to the gospel? I don't believe God typically arbitrarily chooses some for salvation and the rest for damnation.well... Matthew 20:16
also tells us that '...many are called but few are -chosen- ,' which...scares me, more than a little bit.
I don't think any of us are capable. That's why we need a savior.
Christ_empowered
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ok. from my background, growing up liberal Presby, then veering into more traditional Calvinism, I can tell you...
the 'invisible church' is comprised of those who are part of The Elect, and they eventually heed (because God gives them the grace to do so..) the call to genuine salvation. the 'visible church' is compromised of both the wheat -and- the tares, per Scripture.
What I know about Calvinism could be placed on the head of a pin. But if I understand correctly, I struggle with his understanding of what it means to be chosen. I believe we all have the opportunity to accept or deny the gospel and God let's us make that choice. It is precisely because of this that I believe we so desperately need a savior.ok. from my background, growing up liberal Presby, then veering into more traditional Calvinism, I can tell you...
the 'invisible church' is comprised of those who are part of The Elect, and they eventually heed (because God gives them the grace to do so..) the call to genuine salvation. the 'visible church' is compromised of both the wheat -and- the tares, per Scripture.
Christ_empowered
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its an age old debate, I think.
GodsGrace
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Hi EC,,,
What a great thought.
My feeling is that we will not have to learn humility here in this world in order to have this great authority under
Jesus in the life yet to come.
Why?
Because when we become glorified after our death, we will have humility and everything else we'll get when we
pass the doorway into heaven.
What we need to start doing is to have a life NOW that reflects the type of life we'll have THEN.
Heaven starts here!
Maybe you're gonna suffer but you're going to be happy about it? (JK :P)
No,.. God is interested in everybody that's why Jesus died on the cross for us so that we all can be reconciled.
Agreed, but you're not going to go to Hell though. Jesus loves you and you know it,.. and you love Jesus and He knows it. That's all that's required to get a guarantee of Heaven being your final destination.
Hi EvolvingChristian and welcome to CF 
We all need to learn humility and also humbleness of heart. Disabilities can either harden our heart or draw us closer to Christ who is our help in times of need. I can either wallow in my sufferings and pain I go though everyday or I can look past how I feel knowing there are things I can no longer do, but yet many things I can still do and the greatest is having a closer fellowship with the Lord.
We do not walk by what we see or how we physically feel within our disabilities, but as a true child of God we have risen with Christ and need to be seeking those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth for ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall you also appear with him in glory. Colossians 3:1-4.
We all need to learn humility and also humbleness of heart. Disabilities can either harden our heart or draw us closer to Christ who is our help in times of need. I can either wallow in my sufferings and pain I go though everyday or I can look past how I feel knowing there are things I can no longer do, but yet many things I can still do and the greatest is having a closer fellowship with the Lord.
We do not walk by what we see or how we physically feel within our disabilities, but as a true child of God we have risen with Christ and need to be seeking those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth for ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall you also appear with him in glory. Colossians 3:1-4.
This is not true. In 1982, God restored me and then asked me to reach out to the agnostics in this world. He did not require me to bring them to Christ because, while that would save them, his primary goal was to help them with their addictions so they could celebrate life. I started a group that now has 7,000 members who have all been helped by God through me. I make it clear that I am just a channel so they know the source of my healing and theirs. In 2015 the Holy Spirit introduced me to Christ and now I am on a new mission to help addicts who have been wounded by religion find their personal savior in Christ. I have started an AA meeting for Christians. It is open to all seekers. All of this is because cared about more people than just the chosen ones. They are actually a minority of the people he loves.