Millennium

[Alabaster]

Because the apostles didnt teach it .

No apostle taught a temporal kingdom for Jesus Christ.

The scriptures teach it, both Old and New Testament.

 

[Hitch]

What do you mean, 'again'? I don't get your comment. It makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Hitch
Is any place and seat and situation better in any way than the place he occupies today?

I'll ask you some logistical questions later.


There is no lesser or better. The Earthly throne is a place promised to him, which He shall possess at the right time.


Its your comment Allie own it and what it means

 

[Hitch]

The scriptures teach it, both Old and New Testament.

Well I keep asking you to show from scripture where the apostles taught a temporal kingdom for Jesus .

Show me. Because I can show you many references to a spiritual kingdom.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Sorry, but the passage discusses war among men which would cease. The war in question is not a war between nations, but an INTENTION of a war of the nations aligned together, led by Satan to defeat Jesus, the King.

You quoted scripture that states war would not be taught.
The Gog magog war consists of many nations that have many weapons.
These nations are mentioned in scripture by name and thier wepons are documented as well.
According to you they dont have weapons and Jesus rules over them.

If Jesus rules over them then how can they have all the weapons they have that are mentioned in scripture?
Also since you are claiming that Gog serves Jesus and learns from him during those 1000 years before he goes to the promised land to take it.Wouldnt Jesus have taught those nations that they are not to rise against another nation?

 

[Hitch]

WE call them dispensations for our own understanding. God just enacts them. If you don't like it, no problem, but you cannot castigate people who enjoy the order in dispensations.

I dont care what name you give them I asked you to show from scripture where Jesus and/or the apostles define and delineate them .

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Shilo...

I post the chapter and verse so the context is there. To keep most Scripture in total context we would be posting the whole Bible.

Found the signature 'button', and stated the position.

Jn 18;35
Pilate answerd,Am I a jew?Thine own nation and chief priests have deliverd thee unto me;what hast thou done?

Jesus was answering Pilate .Who claimed the chief priests and thier followers were Jesus's nation.
Jesus answer him by saying they were not his nation.They were not of his kingdom.

Let us attempt to keep Jesus's words in context as to not deceive anyone .

 

[Alabaster]

Originally Posted by Hitch
Is any place and seat and situation better in any way than the place he occupies today?

I'll ask you some logistical questions later.

Who is making such a comparison? Jesus isn't.

There is no lesser or better. The Earthly throne is a place promised to him, which He shall possess at the right time

Its your comment Allie own it and what it means

There is a time allotted---1000 years---which commences at the Second Coming of Christ, where Jesus establishes His throne in Jerusalem. God's plan.

 

[Hitch]

Who is making such a comparison? Jesus isn't.

I am and you did too.

There is a time allotted---1000 years---which commences at the Second Coming of Christ, where Jesus establishes His throne in Jerusalem. God's plan.

You keep saying that whith out any confirming apostolic support, certainly you can find some right?

Show me where the apostles teach a temporal kingdom for Jesus Christ.

 

[Alabaster]

I dont care waht name you give them I asked you to show from scripture where Jesus and/or the apostles define and delineate them .

They don't. It is a concept that has come to light since the compilation of scripture has taken place, as far as I know. It is simply a tool we use to help us understand God's economy with man.

 

[Alabaster]

I am and you did too.
You keep saying that whith out any confirming apostolic support, certainly you can find some right?

Show me where the apostles teach a temporal kingdom for Jesus Christ.

You need to accept the full volume of scripture about this. The Jews diodn't understand the Millennial Kingdom---they were looking for an immeduate one, with Jesus as political king.

Jesus reveals to John in His revelation about this, and it suffices.

 

[Alabaster]

I am and you did too.

False. You are suggesting that the Millennial Reign of Christ from Jerusalem is being touted as better than His place of rulership now. Nothing is better or worse. He is always glorious and enthroned. The venue merely changes.

Right now He is building his Church, and THEN, He will be wedded to His Bride and will return with Her, ready to share His Kingdom with Her.

 

[Hitch]

False. You are suggesting that the Millennial Reign of Christ from Jerusalem is being touted as better than His place of rulership now. Nothing is better or worse. He is always glorious and enthroned. The venue merely changes.

Right now He is building his Church, and THEN, He will be wedded to His Bride and will return with Her, ready to share His Kingdom with Her.

Nothing is better or worse
That is your statement, and it means that Christ on earth for 1,000 with sin and death all around is no worse that his current heavenly abode. No better iether.

 

[Alabaster]

Nothing is better or worse
That is your statement, and it means that Christ on earth for 1,000 with sin and death all around is no worse that his current heavenly abode. No better iether.

Yes, nothing is better or worse than Jesus on His throne. No one is comparing or judging according to His comfort, or whatever you are judging for. It is part of what will be. Jesus will sit upon David's literal throne, presiding over the nations with a rod of iron, and setting in peace for a thousand years.

 

[Hitch]

Yes, nothing is better or worse than Jesus on His throne. No one is comparing or judging according to His comfort, or whatever you are judging for. It is part of what will be. Jesus will sit upon David's literal throne, presiding over the nations with a rod of iron, and setting in peace for a thousand years.

And sin and death.

Im getting the impression that you have never been called to support your position form scripture.

 

[Hitch]

You need to accept the full volume of scripture about this. The Jews diodn't understand the Millennial Kingdom---they were looking for an immeduate one, with Jesus as political king.

Jesus reveals to John in His revelation about this, and it suffices.

My the 'sum of scripture' just got a lot smaller

Looks like you're admiting that the apostles didnt teach a temporal kingdom for Jesus Christ, it seems you're including them with 'the jews' .

Is that correct?

 

[Alabaster]

And sin and death.

Im getting the impression that you have never been called to support your position form scripture.

And you cannot do it, for the scriptures all point to Jesus taking His rightful throne over the nations---in Jerusalem.

 

[Hitch]

And you cannot do it, for the scriptures all point to Jesus taking His rightful throne over the nations---in Jerusalem.

On the contrary Allie I can quote from all over the NT regarding the Kingdom of God ,Kingdom of Heaven Kingdom of Christ and the Kingdom of His dear Son and rely on the apostolic definition of what that kingdom is;


Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

 

[Alabaster]

On the contray Allie I can quote from all over the NT regarding the Kingdom of God ,Kingdom of Heaven Kingdom of Christ and the Kingdom of His dear Son and rely on the apostolic definition of what that kingdom is;


Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

I agree with all those mentions of the spiritual kingdom we are citizens of, but there comes a point where godly discernment will teach you there is another age wherein Jesus will receive His earthly throne. That is called the Millennium. Choose to reject it, if you will, but the children of God worldwide are looking forward to reigning with Christ in that day.

 

[Hitch]

I agree with all those mentions of the spiritual kingdom we are citizens of, but there comes a point where godly discernment will teach you there is another age wherein Jesus will receive His earthly throne. That is called the Millennium. Choose to reject it, if you will, but the children of God worldwide are looking forward to reigning with Christ in that day.

Chapter and verse please.

 

[Hitch]

I agree with all those mentions of the spiritual kingdom we are citizens of, but there comes a point where godly discernment will teach you there is another age wherein Jesus will receive His earthly throne. That is called the Millennium. Choose to reject it, if you will, but the children of God worldwide are looking forward to reigning with Christ in that day.

What the children of God await is resurrection and the eternal state, this is what all creation waits for.