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My husband ignores his role as the head of the house and I fee lost...

My husband and I, as well as our two small children, recently starting going back to church about 6 months ago. Prior to that, we have been in and out of 2-3 churches, never really establishing roots, or becoming involved members. There are several reasons for this, but most importantly, I think, was our Biblical ignorance and his past church experiences.

When my husband was around 8 years old his family began attending church, became involved for several years and then the church divided. They were in and out of a few churches from there on out. It's important to note that his parents are "hyper-sensitive" and highly "reactive" people, so this church bouncing is probably an effect of this personality. They harbor ill-will towards people and churches who "wronged" them and fluxuate from extreme love of the church family to extreme dislike.

My husband and I are both saved and baptized. My problem is that he won't take charge of dinner prayer, or pray when he host birthday parties or holiday functions; he asks someone else to do it. He won't lead bedtime prayers or become the spiritual leader in our home in any way. He won't pray openly/verbally at all!! He won't take part in the men's outreach or do anything with the church family unless it is a family event. For example, I attend the women's study group and get together with church family a few times a month. My husband won't socialize with ANYONE independent of my own gatherings.

I am so frustrated. I think, in part, it is linked to the experiences he had as a child. His parents began attending church and becoming active members, but once those church doors were closed and they were home, his mother would turn into a tyrant...a screaming...cursing...lunatic...yet, in the presence of church family, her behavior switched, and this cycle has continued to this day. Suffice it to say that my my husband is skeptical of "true" Christianity. He has an exceptionally difficult time outwardly displaying his faith, I believe, as a result of watching his mother fake her way through Christianity. And while she may have fooled many, we ultimately realize that the greatest fool is herself, and we mourn for her.

With all that said, however, I think what happens, is my husband begins questioning his own salvation because, like ALL humans, we ALL fall short, and when his own shortcomings begin to surface, he feels like a "fake" Christian, and thinks he's his mother. He's greatly missing the point of God's mercy and grace, and recognizing that we will ALWAYS struggle with sin while on earth.
I don't even know if this is why he won't take charge. I just need him to be, who God called him to be, as a man, as a husband and as a father. I CAN'T FILL HIS ROLE, but I feel like I'm trying to compensate and filling in the gaps, and it just doesn't work because it's not my ROLE. As a woman, I was called to be a woman, a wife and a mother.
I don't know what to do. Can anyone offer me insight or BTDT experience?
 
Wow that is a lot to digest! Welcome to a place you can feel free to spout off. I believe where you are is a tuff spot.

God does gives us guidance. I am sure you know the scriptures. They are our best source of faith, power, healing.

I pray God's healing hand on your life. I pray you become the woman God wants for you.

I grasp some of your hurt been married to an unsaved man for 47 years. God covers those gaps. Some times the hardest thing to do is nothing.
 
Welcome to CFnet, AG! :)

Our board is just coming off (or we hope we are) a bad virus attack, so please be patient as members might be slow to get involved again.

In reading your post, your basic situation is not all that uncommon. The wife feels deeper into her faith than her husband and is frustrated that he isn't in the same place she is. I hope you don't mind a little honesty mixed in with my thoughts, and you can correct me if I'm off base.

You say you mourn your mother-in-law, but I have to tell you, it doesn't sound like you have much love for her to actually mourn her. By using the words "fake" and "fool", it sounds like there are some bitter feelings there that overshadow your love for her. While that's understandable, it isn't something that should be excused. I harbored a lot of anger toward my wife's father for other reasons, and this is something I needed to put at the Lord's Feet. I had to prayerfully ask Him to strengthen my love for him, and proactively try to change my attitude. In time, this change occurred, and it can with you too if you are willing to give it up.

My general thought is that you need to be in patient prayer for your husband. It sounds like you have been led to fully give yourself to Him, and that's wonderful! :yes But, people don't all move through the process of sanctification on the same schedule. Not knowing either of you, I have to wonder if he's just more of an introvert and isn't comfortable being heard by others praying or getting involved. It might be much more than that, but I would encourage you to show him every day what honest faith does to a person. Let him see a change and want what you have and then glorify the Lord.

I was led to Christ before my wife, and she would willingly say there was some jealousy there. It was as though I had another love interest, when in reality, I had a new Love Passion. But I tried to meet her at her place, pray, and wait on the Lord. My advice is to lightly and lovingly encourage him, but don't have expectations of him that he is not yet equipped to meet. The result could be a strain on your marriage. He needs to be Led to releasing his baggage and following Christ. Patiently and with love, you can be used if you are willing to let God be God.

I'm glad you joined, and I hope to here more from you around here. I suspect things will get back to normal soon, and you'll see much more activity.

Be blessed to be a blessing to your husband! :thumbsup
 
Thank you for responding.

One of my daily struggles in remaining non-reactive to his ridiculous conclusions. If I, as a child a God, react to him negatively, then how can he ever see the Spirit within? So, when you wrote, "...sometimes the hardest thing to do is nothing..," it registers, probably more than you realize. Sometimes I think he's subconsciously testing my reactivity, as means to evaluating my "true" Christianity. The obviously problem is that, of course, I will sometimes fail.

He has such immense skeptism for every church we've ever attended, constantly pointing out the hypocrisy or problems. I view the structure and creation of the church as a divine orchestration. Does it mean that each "branch" of the church is perfect? No? In fact, some churches were built to fail, but all things to the glory of God. Look at the Assyrians vs. Israel? Was Assyria blessed? NO! Was Israel no longer God's chosen people? No? Was there purpose? YES! Is there always PURPOSE for and in all things - YES!! God is the orchestrator of LIFE...of ALL LIFE...His guidance for us is CLEAR! He will orchestrate and we will uphold His word.

The problem with my husband's skeptism and need to identify problems is his own battle with God's righteousness. God doesn't need our help. He already knows, and he ceretainly knew all things before we came to any tainted realizations of our own! When we start serving the injustice, we remove God from His Kingly position, and begin serving the sin of others, and ultimately challenging and insulting the sufficiency of the cross.
 
Mike,

Thank you for calling attention to the undertones of my statements. I would be lying if I said I hadn't wrestled with my feelings towards my MIL, but it is a work in progress and I have reached a place, where I truly do mourn for her. I mourn for her because her sins, as are all sins, are against God. I used to personalize her sin, until I realized that these transgressions, not unlike my own, are againsts something much greater than I. I choose my words carefully when speaking of her, and I feel "fool" and "fake" are appropriate. A fool is someone, who is deficient in judgement, sense or understanding. By definition, fake is having a false or misleading appearance. Perhaps the negative connotation leads to the conclusion that I'm bitter, but I believe I've reached a higher place, as bitterness is an inward harboring. I mourn for her from a Kingdom perspective. FWIW - I use the same approach with MIL as I do my husband - I live by example by the grace of God and the filling of His Spirit.
 
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Second, Thank you for being brave enough to post this.

Living by example is one of the best and hardest ways to go. I can’t claim to know what exactly your husband is going through. My family never went to a church; any church period. My childhood was hectic in other ways and I can tell you that only God knows how deep those scars run.

Sorry, back to the topic, you mentioned that you attend a woman’s group. Is it possible to join a general bible study and host it at your house? It might be beneficial for your husband to see people give up a night for praise, study, fellowship. With small kids I know that might be a stretch.

I remember when I first started going to church I had a lot of shame about my previous life. Part of what helped me was that my church had a Saturday night service. It was a lot more laid back (more modern music but the same message as Sunday morning) and was very popular with young people and families with kids. I guess it’s easier to keep kids up then wake them up. Anyway, my wife and I found it very welcoming. Maybe a relaxed atmosphere will help ease him back to church?

As for praying out loud, I hit a rough patch when I honestly felt unworthy to talk to the Lord. If your husband grew up in a house that bashed their church once they were home it might be that he feels like a “fake†himself and unworthy. If you can find the appropriate time and place ask your husband if he prays silently and what holds him back from verbalizing it. It might be as simple as he doesn’t know what to say.

Through it all remember a few things, pray for him, about him, keep your relationship with God strong and guide your children until dad comes around.

I hope this helps. Much love and God Bless
 
Amazing Grace,

I can relate to your situation because for a good portion or our married life, I was by far the more "spiritual" between my husband and I. I have a lot more background in the word, I had walked the Christian walk for a lot longer period.

My husband also had some very deep-seated resentments towards church due to the treatment his brother received when he died.

So, yes, I know where you're coming from.

May I suggest that perhaps you are expecting too much from him at this point in time. As Mike said, different people walk the walk differently. At this point in time, even after all these years and as deeply felt my husband's faith is, he will still ask me to pray if large groups are in our house, or lead the kid's catechism lessons.

And, because the first and foremost role of any wife is to be her husband's helper, I do it. That's what being a help-meet is, to help him where he needs it.

For a long time, my husband wouldn't go to church functions unless I went...that's not the case anymore. I just got well from an extended bout of illness, and he took the kids to church, catechism the whole 9 yards while I was sick. So, he's come a long way. Just keep praying for him, pray that God will lead you to the church he needs to be in, pray that God will shape him into the man God (not you) want's him to be. God, (not you). Thought I'd repeat that. ;)

Believe it or not, one of the hardest things to deal with is when he does begin to take up the spiritual reigns in the household, and starts heading off in a direction that you don't want to go in. When that happens, (and I'm pretty certain it will) submit to him lovingly. Even if you think, "There is no way God wants us there!!" go anyway, unless it's illegal.

Quick testimony of what I'm speaking of here: When my husband began, after about 8 years of marriage, start to take on spiritual leadership roles, he wanted our family to start going to a church in which the denomination was set to ordain gays and lesbians. OK, now that violates God's word, surely God didn't want us there, right? So, I balked and as a result we spent several years spinning our wheels because my husband thought I was so much more spiritual and knowledgeable than him so he deferred to me instead of following God's leading. And, I was justifying not submitting to him in the matter, and our whole family's walk in the Lord just sort of stagnated.

Finally, God dealt with me and my own sinful lack of submission to my husband. We wound up going to the church I didn't want to go to.

Well, it turned out that God used that to be a time of great learning for my husband, and it wasn't long before my husband followed God's leading and we settled to where we are at now, which is a great place!

Anyway, I truly encourage you to be patient and submissive and loving to him. Take your frustrations to God, and just help your husband in whatever he asks. It's a wise husband that will recognize his wife's gifts and utilize them in the family. If you're much better at public prayer or teaching the kids the the faith, and he wants you to do it, do so joyfully. And, just keep encouraging him to pray and ask God to lead him to where He wants him to be.

But, do be patient...with his past, this could certainly take years. It might help to keep in mind that God works in terms of eternity, not years!
 
One word comes to mind here- Confidence! If you want leadership be prepared to offer submission. there cant be 2 masters of the house in this case. You must have confidence in him and build up his confidence in himself.

me and my wife are a team we share roles and alternate as required. I am not to proud to clean the hous or doo the girly things my daughters make me do. My wife gets in and helps me do really crappy things many girls wouldn't touch. we are a team.


Take notice of the way you talk and write, the word "WE" should be far more predominant than the word "I" in a healthy marriage. If "I" begins appearing more than "we" your heading for trouble. just a thought.. something a councilor told me once.
 
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I think I am feeling what your husband feel.

I think my wife is feeling like you... that I do not take the lead...

why ? because she always want to take the lead - and make all those decisions and says that I am no use, and she is shameful of me in front of her friends and hence will not bring me to any functions... and when we did - I will get big big mouth full from her after the event - in the end - I too am afraid to go any function or meeting together with her - least she says I did not behave as she wanted.

So I just withdraw.... and now she is so towering over me that I am so frustrated and i started a threat to seek help here....

My two cents worth - is what i like my wife to be -

1 accept her as what he is -
2 nothing will change - do not try to change him by asking him to be like this or like that.... let GOD handle it... and what will happen is that u will feel God is in charge and you are not - and then you will be less frustrated.
3 and because of that u wil feel happy and so you will be nicer to him
4 and the whole world will change


keep us posted

cheers
 
I believe that God means for married people(men and women)to work together as a team,where one is weak the other should be helpful and where the other is weak then the other should be there for them. Because we are male and female we sometimes have very different roles, however we should still remember the other person at all times. I would not want to be completely in control and always the final word because it would be a disaster,I need someone to point out when I make a wrong turn.
 
I believe that God means for married people(men and women)to work together as a team,where one is weak the other should be helpful and where the other is weak then the other should be there for them. Because we are male and female we sometimes have very different roles, however we should still remember the other person at all times. I would not want to be completely in control and always the final word because it would be a disaster,I need someone to point out when I make a wrong turn.


as long as each partner knows the role they play- sometimes follower, sometimes leading, than it is ok..
 
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