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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
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https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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Dorothy Mae
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Hi Wondering, I was listening to this last week. The parallels between the German church as Hitler rose to power and the modern church are astounding.
I personally think the unwillingness of many churches to oppose the government during the Lockdown was the trial balloon. Pastors who caved in and closed their doors lost the chance to choose to obey God rather than man (cost what it may) and lost the chance to grow in faith and courage. Now the pressure of evil is stronger and they are weaker. Courage is given after men make the choice to be brave and do what is right.
I personally think the unwillingness of many churches to oppose the government during the Lockdown was the trial balloon. Pastors who caved in and closed their doors lost the chance to choose to obey God rather than man (cost what it may) and lost the chance to grow in faith and courage. Now the pressure of evil is stronger and they are weaker. Courage is given after men make the choice to be brave and do what is right.
Dorothy Mae
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How long will it be before a christian minister is asked to perform a wedding for a homosexual couple and he refuses and gets charged with a hate crime? If he’s unlucky, that whole community will make the matter very public and his life as he knew it is over. If he’s been yielding to evil over the years preferring safety, where will he find courage?
GodsGrace
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And not only in this regard.
The entire Woke system is sick and goes against every human quality. Whatever is right and reasonable, Woke is against it.
Are you aware of the transgender situation in the states? We're luckier here in Europe, but eventually it MIGHT reach out shored.
And THE CHURCH not only doesn't do anything, but is AGREEING with the madness.
Hi Dorothy Mae
Just wandering through here, but this statement caught my attention. In what ways do you see that pastors and fellowships that 'closed their doors' somehow were not obeying God. I seem to have missed that passage that said if there's a great disease that comes across the land, you'll be disobeying God if you take preventive measures to try and insure the health of those among the fellowship.
God bless,
Ted
Which church? Sure there are apostate ones .the Episcopal and Methodist churches but these have splinters that have refused and separated themselves .
Dorothy Mae
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If pastors simply believe everything their government says no question and follow their advice/requirements no question, then they will never see any evil governments do. The German pastors likewise believed their government no question. That was the beginning of the deadly part.
There are churches that required those RNA injections, for example. It’s undeniable that those injections have killed people, young people. So the “be safe” narrative was a lie and pastors didn’t bother to identify it. What is more, those complying have no discernment at all. They could not hear from God and protect their flock. Instead they followed the narrative.
The average age of those who died with Covid (not necessarily from) was 75 years old. This was easy to see if one read the stats which I did all the way through.
All the governments need to
do is invent a threat and pastors will comply and refuse to meet. Shut down and be safe.
Teach your sheep to value their own health (not even lives) above the command of God. BE AFRAID!!
Ted, that’s not directed towards you. I saw this in the church we attended. The people were told to be afraid although “be safe” was the language. People treated their brothers like lepers.
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Dorothy Mae
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One example would be the Catholic church. When I was growing up in the Catholic church I was taught that it was a mortal sin to miss Sunday Mass or any Holy Day of Obligation. Where or when did God ever provide exceptions to sinful behavior?
Dorothy Mae
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Dorothy Mae
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Something else that must be said is that in both the Covid deception and the Nazi reign, the medical and scientific community were absolutely vital to the unbelievable harm inflicted on people. They lead the assault on people and oddly enough, both reigns of terror generated a group hatred for a segment of the population that was unthinkable a few years before.
So governments could not have enjoyed anywhere close to the success they saw without those “noble” scientists and doctors leading the charge.
So governments could not have enjoyed anywhere close to the success they saw without those “noble” scientists and doctors leading the charge.
GodsGrace
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Tell it girl!
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Catholic churches around the country closed and did not celebrate the Mass during the pandemic. According to what I was taught, this would have been a mortal sin yet, the Catholic church gave in to governmental mandates.
One example I heard about on the Catholic Channel on Sirius FM was about churches in California that were not allowed to celebrate Mass indoors and even outdoors were limited to a maximum number of people. If memory serves me right, that limit was either 12 or 24.
The ironic thing that was pointed out in the story was that gambling casinos in the area were allowed to remain open for business indoors.
Dorothy Mae
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Yes they did, however, Protestants do not agree with the Catholic church that missing worship services is a mortal sin or even a sin at all.
In our Lutheran church we stopped having worship service in person but kept gathering by live streaming. It required our pastor and one person to broadcast the video. The disadvantage of this was the lack of personal fellowship and sharing Holy Communion.
Dorothy Mae
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What difference does that make? Scripture says not to fail to assemble yourselves together. That command they dropped in obedience and fear of man. We don’t have “mortal sins” whatever that is, but there are serious sins in Protestantism and what you call it is immaterial. Shows their faith. Doesn’t apply to real life.
That’s not gathering together.
Exactly. That’s not gathering together and the leadership abandoned the command of God in fear of man and a (hard to believe) a virus. They loved their lives and health ultimately most.
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Dorothy Mae
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The point is this. In some places, not all, courage in christian leaders was totally absent. “ Hunker down and be afraid.” The chance to receive courage was lost.
The british pastors stood as one against the government and won freedom for the whole nation….and they didn’t die of a virus.
Modern Shadrack, Mishak, and Abednigo.
The british pastors stood as one against the government and won freedom for the whole nation….and they didn’t die of a virus.
Modern Shadrack, Mishak, and Abednigo.
Christ_empowered
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My outcast situation has pretty much led me to give up on church. At the Same time I’m trying to not get bitter lol 
Churches do too often create church people many of whom are notorious for their self righteousness and lack of actual Christian character. And yet…
Strengthen what remains…
It’s not all bad news for everyone everywhere…
Churches do too often create church people many of whom are notorious for their self righteousness and lack of actual Christian character. And yet…
Strengthen what remains…
It’s not all bad news for everyone everywhere…
Did you know people were fined for getting close to a church and listening to God's word on their radios ? ! ?
Closing the church doors was not good enough , believe it or not .
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Benjamin Franklin
Justice Department defends Mississippi drive-in church service
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, a Republican, has designated churches as essential, allowing them to operate as long as they follow state and federal health guidelines. The city of Greenville, however, has barred churches from holding either in-person or drive-in services as long as the governor's shelter-in-place order remains in effect.
Greenville's mayor, Errick Simmons, said the orders restricting church services were imposed for the sake of safety.