Naomi Wolf: Baby Deaths Skyrocketing Among Vaccinated Mothers

[jasonc]

A.meeting of people who haven't lawful power to force an action to correct a bad act is not a court .

 

[jasonc]

Naomi wolf ,a feminist who is pro choice ,pro LGBT and is very much a socialist leaning person .

But yet we can't listen to those that are pro mandate or vaccine and pro life ?


I'm hardly pro mandate in that it's nigh impossible to enforce it ,see my states local law against golfing in lightning ,people still golf in it .see drinking laws and how many aren't caught .not that I'm for drinking and driving just that it's nothing close to stopping it .

Jailing a person and using a force cell extraction team to administer it isn't a good way to make an argument for the need .like tickets some will not pay and the law will have to come arrest

Liens might work but again that means the govt looses taxes and also homeless roam and aren't the most sanitary .

 

[JLB]

Is this a picture of the General Michael Flynn trial?

 

[Barbarian]

Is this a picture of the General Michael Flynn trial?

As you might know, there was no trial. His lawyer explained to him that the authorities had the evidence and it clearly showed that he lied to the FBI about his Russian contacts. So he just pleaded guilty.

 

[Barbarian]

Naomi wolf ,a feminist who is pro choice ,pro LGBT and is very much a socialist leaning person .

But yet we can't listen to those that are pro mandate or vaccine and pro life ?


I'm hardly pro mandate in that it's nigh impossible to enforce it ,see my states local law against golfing in lightning ,people still golf in it .see drinking laws and how many aren't caught .not that I'm for drinking and driving just that it's nothing close to stopping it .

Jailing a person and using a force cell extraction team to administer it isn't a good way to make an argument for the need .like tickets some will not pay and the law will have to come arrest

Liens might work but again that means the govt looses taxes and also homeless roam and aren't the most sanitary .

Yeah, there's a limit to how much government can (and should) keep people from doing self-destructive things. The only justifiable action is to keep them from endangering others thereby. If you want drink yourself into a stupor and drive your car on your private road, go for it. If you want to drive on public ways, then there's a problem that the law needs to address.

And there's amusing irony in that the anti-vaxxer movement was originally the doing of far-left people. It was only after democrats began to advocate COVID-19 vaccinations that the far-right enthusiastically took it up.

 

[Northman]

For some reason, I put more confidence in people who actually look at the data.

Aye. It's why I mentioned Daniel Nagase, who compiled that data for us. 86 still-births in six months in a place where normally they get 5-6 per year.

This dishonest type of conversation is a big reason why I said we don't have to talk anymore.

 

[Barbarian]

Aye. It's why I mentioned Daniel Nagase, who compiled that data for us. 86 still-births in six months in a place where normally they get 5-6 per year.

So show us the data. Checkable source. I'm willing to look at it, if you can provide it.

This dishonest type of conversation is a big reason why I said we don't have to talk anymore.

I didn't say you or whoever gave you that story is dishonest; I'd just like to see the evidence for myself. What do you have?







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[Barbarian]

But Dr. Daniel Nagase, a Canadian family physician, has falsely claimed that the vaccines are the cause of an “increase in stillbirths” across Canada, with one birthing center in Vancouver having “13 stillbirths in a 24-hour period.”

Conservative outlets are spreading Nagase’s unfounded claim. The Gateway Pundit, a website that has repeatedly spread misinformation, carried a headline on Dec. 11 that said: “Doctor Warns Stillbirths Are Rampant Among Fully Vaccinated Mothers, Launches Investigation.”
Trending Politics, another conservative website, borrowed content from the Gateway Pundit story and ran a similar headline: “SHOCK REPORT: Rampant Stillbirths Among Fully Vaccinated Mothers Concerning.”

But Canadian health officials have refuted Nagase’s claim.
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But Celso Pereira, a spokesperson for the regional health authority Vancouver Coastal Health, told us in an email that VCH was “aware of disinformation spreading on social media regarding stillbirths at Lions Gate Hospital (LGH) as a result of mothers having been vaccinated against COVID-19.”
“There is no truth to this claim and the individuals spreading this false information have no affiliation to either Lions Gate Hospital or Vancouver Coastal Health,” Pereira said.
Dr. Peter Potts, joint chief of staff at Grand River Hospital in the Waterloo region of Ontario, told the Canadian news site CityNews that 12 stillbirths occurred in the last fiscal year between both Grand River Hospital and Cambridge Memorial Hospital in Cambridge, Ontario.


“This year, we have had 982 deliveries in Cambridge and four still-births,” Kristin Wadsworth, chief of obstetrics and gynecology at Cambridge Memorial Hospital, said in the CityNews article. “That is a still-birth rate of 0.41%, which is our average.”


Potts also said, “we feel COVID vaccinations during pregnancy are a normal part to prenatal care and the obstetricians and midwives in the community strongly support the vaccination during pregnancy. There is a growing body of evidence that the vaccination is safe.”


On its website, the CDC says “the benefits of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine outweigh any known or potential risks of vaccination during pregnancy.” In fact, the CDC says, “people who have COVID-19 during pregnancy are at increased risk of preterm birth and stillbirth.”


This isn’t the first time that he has attracted the attention of Canadian health officials. Nagase triggered a public health warning from the Alberta Health Service in October, after he claimed online to have treated COVID-19 patients with the unapproved drug ivermectin while he acted as a fill-in doctor at AHS.

Doctor Makes False Claim About Stillbirths in Canadian Hospitals - FactCheck.org

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends COVID-19 vaccines for pregnant people, and the World Health Organization says the vaccines are safe for them. Yet online articles cite a Canadian doctor who falsely claims that the vaccines have caused an unusually high number of...

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[Northman]

I didn't say you or whoever gave you that story is dishonest; I'd just like to see the evidence for myself. What do you have?

Well that's the thing right? We all wanted evidence of covid. Absolutely nobody was falling over dead from it, despite how the "news" told us that people all over were dying of it. It's even more sucky for those voices when you get into smaller towns, where you have very large elderly populations and nobody is dying from either covid or any vax they took. The narrative simply can't hold in places like that, and I don't believe it was supposed to.

I do NOT seek to convince you one way or the other. As far as the event described in the "story", the evidence produced seven rifles with shoulders willing to use them.

But Dr. Daniel Nagase, a Canadian family physician, has falsely claimed that the vaccines are the cause of an “increase in stillbirths” across Canada, with one birthing center in Vancouver having “13 stillbirths in a 24-hour period.”

Regardless of your desire to write it in red, to me it doesn't hold the authoritative association of Jesus speaking. What I can do is show you almost endless links and text about false claims about Obama but absolutely no video, but they will be in media format, sorta like what you are doing.

 

[Barbarian]

I didn't say you or whoever gave you that story is dishonest; I'd just like to see the evidence for myself. What do you have?

Well that's the thing right?

Yep. No evidence, you're pretty much out of luck.

We all wanted evidence of covid. Absolutely nobody was falling over dead from it, despite how the "news" told us that people all over were dying of it.

Actually, at least a million Americans died of it. I personally know a fair number of people who did. So there is that.

But if you do find any evidence supporting the stories, would you mind passing it on to us? As you see, a lot of evidence shows otherwise.

to me it doesn't hold the authoritative association of Jesus speaking.

So far, He hasn't seen fit to say anything one way or another. I think I know why.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

That's known as conjecture.

That’s all we have. No negative reactive reaction even within minutes was acknowledged as related to the injections until recently. The massive number of heart problems just couldn’t continue to be ignored. Too many doctors knew the truth.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

So much info has yet to be revealed.
With the release of the Pfizer documents a lot of info is available. They wanted to wait 75 years so all guilty parties were already dead.

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There are 1000s of these.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I didn't say you or whoever gave you that story is dishonest; I'd just like to see the evidence for myself. What do you have?


Yep. No evidence, you're pretty much out of luck.


Actually, at least a million Americans died of it. I personally know a fair number of people who did. So there is that.

The vast majority were over 60 and the average age 71 years old. People over 70 do die.

 

[Free]

That’s all we have.

So, if it’s conjecture, as you agree, then it shouldn’t be touted as truth unless a causal link has been established.

No negative reactive reaction even within minutes was acknowledged as related to the injections until recently.

They’ve acknowledged them since vaccinations started.

The massive number of heart problems just couldn’t continue to be ignored. Too many doctors knew the truth.

What heart problems?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

So, if it’s conjecture, as you agree, then it shouldn’t be touted as truth unless a causal link has been established.

Except people are blindly taking these injections and suffering.

They’ve acknowledged them since vaccinations started.

No they certainly didn’t.

What heart problems?

I rest my case.

 

[Free]

Except people are blindly taking these injections and suffering.

So, you agreed it’s conjecture and then go back to arguing to conjecture. If it’s conjecture, why are you basing your arguments on it? Likely relatively few are taking the vaccines blindly. There is a ton of information out there and most are likely researching it as well as talking to a health professional or others.

COVID is significantly worse than the vaccines, in all regards. That is the data that matters.

No they certainly didn’t.

Where I live they certainly did. And if they did it here, they did it elsewhere.

I rest my case.

What case? You are from from making a good case.

 

[Barbarian]

What heart problems?

Turns out one of the common symptoms of the COVID-19 virus is (often lethal) inflammation of the heart and myocardium:

Heart Rhythm 2020 Sep; 17(9): 1463–1471.​

Recognizing COVID-19–related myocarditis: The possible pathophysiology and proposed guideline for diagnosis and management​

Human coronavirus-associated myocarditis is known, and a number of coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19)–related myocarditis cases have been reported. The pathophysiology of COVID-19–related myocarditis is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response. COVID-19 myocarditis diagnosis should be guided by insights from previous coronavirus and other myocarditis experience. The clinical findings include changes in electrocardiogram and cardiac biomarkers, and impaired cardiac function. When cardiac magnetic resonance imaging is not feasible, cardiac computed tomographic angiography with delayed myocardial imaging may serve to exclude significant coronary artery disease and identify myocardial inflammatory patterns.

Rarely, a milder form of myocarditis has been seen in vaccinated people.

In most cases, patients who presented for medical care have responded well to medications and rest and had prompt improvement of symptoms. Reported cases have occurred predominantly in male adolescents and young adults 16 years of age and older. Onset was typically within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and cases have occurred more often after the second dose than the first dose.

Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis after COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

Clinical considerations for myocarditis and pericarditis after receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines among adolescents and young adults.

www.cdc.gov

Unlike COVID-19 infections, no deaths from myocarditis have been found to have occurred after vaccination.

 

[Free]

Turns out one of the common symptoms of the COVID-19 virus is (often lethal) inflammation of the heart and myocardium:

Heart Rhythm 2020 Sep; 17(9): 1463–1471.​

Recognizing COVID-19–related myocarditis: The possible pathophysiology and proposed guideline for diagnosis and management​

Human coronavirus-associated myocarditis is known, and a number of coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19)–related myocarditis cases have been reported. The pathophysiology of COVID-19–related myocarditis is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response. COVID-19 myocarditis diagnosis should be guided by insights from previous coronavirus and other myocarditis experience. The clinical findings include changes in electrocardiogram and cardiac biomarkers, and impaired cardiac function. When cardiac magnetic resonance imaging is not feasible, cardiac computed tomographic angiography with delayed myocardial imaging may serve to exclude significant coronary artery disease and identify myocardial inflammatory patterns.

Rarely, a milder form of myocarditis has been seen in vaccinated people.

In most cases, patients who presented for medical care have responded well to medications and rest and had prompt improvement of symptoms. Reported cases have occurred predominantly in male adolescents and young adults 16 years of age and older. Onset was typically within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and cases have occurred more often after the second dose than the first dose.

Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis after COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

Clinical considerations for myocarditis and pericarditis after receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines among adolescents and young adults.

www.cdc.gov

Unlike COVID-19 infections, no deaths from myocarditis have been found to have occurred after vaccination.

Yes, I knew about myocarditis. I was just wondering if the anti-vaxxers believed there was something else. Little do they know that COVID is more likely to cause myocarditis, to no one’s surprise.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Turns out one of the common symptoms of the COVID-19 virus is (often lethal) inflammation of the heart and myocardium:

Heart Rhythm 2020 Sep; 17(9): 1463–1471.​

Recognizing COVID-19–related myocarditis: The possible pathophysiology and proposed guideline for diagnosis and management​

Human coronavirus-associated myocarditis is known, and a number of coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19)–related myocarditis cases have been reported. The pathophysiology of COVID-19–related myocarditis is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response. COVID-19 myocarditis diagnosis should be guided by insights from previous coronavirus and other myocarditis experience. The clinical findings include changes in electrocardiogram and cardiac biomarkers, and impaired cardiac function. When cardiac magnetic resonance imaging is not feasible, cardiac computed tomographic angiography with delayed myocardial imaging may serve to exclude significant coronary artery disease and identify myocardial inflammatory patterns.

Rarely, a milder form of myocarditis has been seen in vaccinated people.

In most cases, patients who presented for medical care have responded well to medications and rest and had prompt improvement of symptoms. Reported cases have occurred predominantly in male adolescents and young adults 16 years of age and older. Onset was typically within several days after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and cases have occurred more often after the second dose than the first dose.

Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis after COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

Clinical considerations for myocarditis and pericarditis after receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines among adolescents and young adults.

www.cdc.gov

Unlike COVID-19 infections, no deaths from myocarditis have been found to have occurred after vaccination.

I personally know people who were in ER a few days after the shots. Most people I know had Covid and NONE of them are in ER with myocarditis. It’s commonly known that those injections can result in myocarditis.

 

[Barbarian]

I personally know people who were in ER a few days after the shots. Most people I know had Covid and NONE of them are in ER with myocarditis.

Doesn't matter. What matters are the numbers of people so affected. And as you see, COVID-19 infections often causes life-threatening myocarditis, while those who were immunized rarely had such symptoms, and so far no one has died.

What's "commonly known" is not a substitute for the truth.