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Noah preached by the spirit of Jesus while building the ark; I can imagine the attention the ark drew. I assume he, and his family, preached to anyone who was in hearing distance.
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Noah preached by the spirit of Jesus while building the ark; I can imagine the attention the ark drew. I assume he, and his family, preached to anyone who was in hearing distance.
digging
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Now that we know it is very possible to interfere with the DNA of any living thing and humans are now doing this which many people are very concerned about GMO's.
If humans can change the DNA of things then that means it's a real thing that can be done. So then it seems perhaps some how the very DNA of the Nephilim must have been changed because of this unnatural breeding?
On a side note this makes me consider that this is just one way that our days are like the days of Noah. The very DNA of creation is being interfered with.
Just to be clear my view is that the angels would have had to take human form in order to
procreate with the women, like they did when visiting Abraham when they ate food.
Gen 18:2 When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth, 3 and said, "My Lord, if now I have found favor in Your sight, please do not pass your servant by. 4 "Please let a littlewater be brought and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree ; 5 and I will bring a piece ofbread, that you may refresh yourselves ; after that you may go on, since you have visited your servant." And they said, "So do, as you have said." 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah, and said, "Quickly, prepare three measures of fine flour , knead it and make bread cakes." 7 Abraham also ran to the herd, and took a tender and choice calf and gave it to the servant, and he hurried to prepare it. 8 He took curds and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and placed it before them; and he was standing by them under the tree as they ate.
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If humans can change the DNA of things then that means it's a real thing that can be done. So then it seems perhaps some how the very DNA of the Nephilim must have been changed because of this unnatural breeding?
On a side note this makes me consider that this is just one way that our days are like the days of Noah. The very DNA of creation is being interfered with.
Just to be clear my view is that the angels would have had to take human form in order to
procreate with the women, like they did when visiting Abraham when they ate food.
Gen 18:2 When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth, 3 and said, "My Lord, if now I have found favor in Your sight, please do not pass your servant by. 4 "Please let a littlewater be brought and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree ; 5 and I will bring a piece ofbread, that you may refresh yourselves ; after that you may go on, since you have visited your servant." And they said, "So do, as you have said." 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah, and said, "Quickly, prepare three measures of fine flour , knead it and make bread cakes." 7 Abraham also ran to the herd, and took a tender and choice calf and gave it to the servant, and he hurried to prepare it. 8 He took curds and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and placed it before them; and he was standing by them under the tree as they ate.
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I find this doctrine distasteful as well. And sounds like a fantasy to my natural mind. But in Gods word, It seems to line up.
This sounds like fantasy also.........God who is outside of time and our dimension, creator of all, with no sin, eternal, all knowing came into our realm as a supernaturally born infant from a virgin, Lived and died for the sins of ALL mankind and then went back to His realm that is out of time. That sounds like a fantasy also.
This sounds like fantasy also.........God who is outside of time and our dimension, creator of all, with no sin, eternal, all knowing came into our realm as a supernaturally born infant from a virgin, Lived and died for the sins of ALL mankind and then went back to His realm that is out of time. That sounds like a fantasy also.
Edward
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It's is distasteful. Especially if it really happened. But if we take the scripture literally, that is indeed what it says, which makes it worse. I don't like it at all. But if I am to actually learn something, I have to be honest with myself and academically proper in the approach of learning and understanding. Which means, it doesn't matter what I like or want it to be, or any of my pre-suppositions, I just have to see what it says and do a word study on the words and see how it comes out.
The B'nei Elohim (sp?) is very clear I found during the word study.
I read in Enoch (I'm not trying to put this across as scripture, I understand it is not canonical, but it does speak of it and was very interesting in what it said, so for the sake of discussion only, I will say it)...The fallen Angels did not want to do it with the women, out of a fear of God and His wrath against them. So upon Mt. Herman they made a death pact with each other to go ahead and do it. Then later, they tried to hire Enoch as their attorney with God and wrote God a request for mercy. Which was denied and the punishment was severe, as we know.../
The new theory of men (not Enoch) is not that more Angels fell, but that the aliens in the space-ships are now having children by our women genetically, and not through sex. Which is supposedly why the abductions all cener around the taking genetic material and eggs and so forth from the women and they do it this way now. They found them a loophole to not have sex with our women etc.. Most of the abduction stories support this theory in what is done to them.
The B'nei Elohim (sp?) is very clear I found during the word study.
I read in Enoch (I'm not trying to put this across as scripture, I understand it is not canonical, but it does speak of it and was very interesting in what it said, so for the sake of discussion only, I will say it)...The fallen Angels did not want to do it with the women, out of a fear of God and His wrath against them. So upon Mt. Herman they made a death pact with each other to go ahead and do it. Then later, they tried to hire Enoch as their attorney with God and wrote God a request for mercy. Which was denied and the punishment was severe, as we know.../
The new theory of men (not Enoch) is not that more Angels fell, but that the aliens in the space-ships are now having children by our women genetically, and not through sex. Which is supposedly why the abductions all cener around the taking genetic material and eggs and so forth from the women and they do it this way now. They found them a loophole to not have sex with our women etc.. Most of the abduction stories support this theory in what is done to them.
To add a little to what you said, I will submit this scripture from Daniel which is associated with the end of days -
42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Daniel 2:42-44
...they will mingle with the seed of men;
They is a reference to a being, but not a human being.
"They"; mingling indicates a blending of genetic properties of human and nonhuman DNA.
Then, when we read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 concerning the end of the age -
Just as in the days of Noah... for they will be marrying and given in marriage...
Who was marrying in the days of Noah?
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose
JLB
Edward
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To add a little to what you said, I will submit this scripture from Daniel which is associated with the end of days -
42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Daniel 2:42-44
...they will mingle with the seed of men;
They is a reference to a being, but not a human being.
"They"; mingling indicates a blending of genetic properties of human and nonhuman DNA.
Then, when we read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 concerning the end of the age -
Just as in the days of Noah... for they will be marrying and given in marriage...
Who was marrying in the days of Noah?
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose
JLB
Thanks brother. Let's ask ourselves...why would they want/need to do this?
Simple. When the Angels fell, they took with them 1/3 of the Angels of heaven. They're outnumbered 2 to 1! Trying to build up the forces perhaps? Maybe.
Edward
2024 Supporter
yeah, I know. Not a big deal. The norm. So why mention it? it could be because the significance is in that Angels were doing it and not just men. That would make it noteworthy.
I don't understand why people continue to say that Angels are sexless, when that scripture merely says that they do not marry, nor are given in marriage. It is a reasonable assumption, but when one thinks about it, they could very well have sexual organs and just not get married out of respect for their relationship with God. They are married to God.
Angels have always been referred to as the masculine gender.
Edward
2024 Supporter
"JLB:...42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Daniel 2:42-44
...they will mingle with the seed of men;
They is a reference to a being, but not a human being.
"They"; mingling indicates a blending of genetic properties of human and nonhuman DNA.
Then, when we read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 concerning the end of the age -
Just as in the days of Noah... for they will be marrying and given in marriage...
Who was marrying in the days of Noah?
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose/"
See, that makes all sorts of sense to me. When I started a thread about it though, I got raked across the coals, lol. From people not being academically honest with themselves and knee jerking to emotion. I don't like it. But it would seem to fit with what's going on in the world.
...they will mingle with the seed of men;
They is a reference to a being, but not a human being.
"They"; mingling indicates a blending of genetic properties of human and nonhuman DNA.
Then, when we read what Jesus said in Matthew 24 concerning the end of the age -
Just as in the days of Noah... for they will be marrying and given in marriage...
Who was marrying in the days of Noah?
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose/"
See, that makes all sorts of sense to me. When I started a thread about it though, I got raked across the coals, lol. From people not being academically honest with themselves and knee jerking to emotion. I don't like it. But it would seem to fit with what's going on in the world.
Edward
2024 Supporter
Good point. I wonder why...?
I think it is because of the authority God has granted them to wield His power,carry His message and represent Him.
C
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Angels themselves cannot have sexual relations.but a fallen
Angel or Satan himself can definitely empregnate a flesh
Woman and they do have reproductive organs.the giants
Were called gihbor in the Hebrew manuscripts.the fallen
Angels are the nephilium
Angel or Satan himself can definitely empregnate a flesh
Woman and they do have reproductive organs.the giants
Were called gihbor in the Hebrew manuscripts.the fallen
Angels are the nephilium
C
CHRISTIAN SOLDIER
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Read Jude chapter 1 it compares the fallen angels to the exact
Same sin of Sodom and gamorra.and because the fallen
Angels mixed themselves with flesh women,God put them
In chains in darkness.its all truth.
Same sin of Sodom and gamorra.and because the fallen
Angels mixed themselves with flesh women,God put them
In chains in darkness.its all truth.
That sounds too much like Rosemary's baby :erm
Sinthesis
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Exactly! It is not Christian behavior to demonize your enemies, even to the point of not believing they are 100% human.
I find it highly unlikely that angels are capable of sexual relations with humans, never mind reproduction. There simply is nothing in the Bible to support it and all such speculation only seems to fill some sort of need for sensationalism or fantasy.
Be careful in going beyond what Scripture states and making it say things it doesn't say.
Be careful in going beyond what Scripture states and making it say things it doesn't say.
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Sinthesis Jesus told some Pharisees that their dad was the devil but He still loved them. I don't think anyone is running around pointing out nephilim and I'm not sure if that's even possible.
C
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Hey free you and synthesis obviously don't understand
Gods true word.even Goliath was a giants he was one
Of the offsprings of og giants the ones that Israel killed
And king David killed Goliath he was over 9 or ten feet tall
Normal men and women can never get that big.they
Did not have normal DNA they were hybrids.
Unholy union between Satan and his angels and flesh
Women.there is so much scripture that backs it up.
That's why you have to take words back to the Hebrew
To understand
Gods true word.even Goliath was a giants he was one
Of the offsprings of og giants the ones that Israel killed
And king David killed Goliath he was over 9 or ten feet tall
Normal men and women can never get that big.they
Did not have normal DNA they were hybrids.
Unholy union between Satan and his angels and flesh
Women.there is so much scripture that backs it up.
That's why you have to take words back to the Hebrew
To understand