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Nephilim
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C
CHRISTIAN SOLDIER
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kenites were not allowed in with the blood line of adam,if you lived in a land with evil kenites that
doesnt make you one.
lot lived in sodom and gamohrra and he was saved and his daughters as well.
doesnt make you one.
lot lived in sodom and gamohrra and he was saved and his daughters as well.
jasoncran
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uhm. when Hebrews say that would have made that known. I would like a source on that. be it Talmud, midrash or what not.
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CHRISTIAN SOLDIER
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they evil giants not demons product of fallen angels and flesh women.
the giants could not escape the flood they were not angels.they were just huge and powerful
the giants could not escape the flood they were not angels.they were just huge and powerful
Sir, I have a question that Sinthesis won't answer. Maybe you will since you agree with him.
If the sons of God were human, how did they survive the flood?
The new Testament writers referred to them as angels.
If all the humans were wiped out in the flood, except Noah and his family [8].
Then how could these sons of God have survived the flood unless they were in fact angels.
Please show the scripture for your answer.
Here's mine -
There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6:4
JLB
The NT writers referred to whom as angels? You're equating "sons of God" with fallen angels. Is there anything in all of Scripture to support such a notion? Doesn't make sense that as believers and followers of Jesus, being adopted into God's family, we are called sons of God, yet fallen angels, being evil, would also be called sons of God. In what way are they sons?
There was only Noah and his family and the animals in the Ark.
Edward
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From what I understand, a more accurate translation of benei elohim is not Angel, but rather a direct creation of God, which Angels are, which Adam was, but no man since Adam. To us he gave the power to become the sons of God.
Also scripture is very clear that the Nephilim are the children of the fallen ones and the daughters of men. Seems to be some confusion going on here about that.
Also scripture is very clear that the Nephilim are the children of the fallen ones and the daughters of men. Seems to be some confusion going on here about that.
Hi Kathi and thanks for the response. In reality they were the only ones believing God at the time of the flood; the spiritual Ark of our salvation. We do the same today as we read of them of Moses in 1 Cor 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1Jn 3:1 . . the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: (Those dying in the flood were not sons of God, or they would be on the Ark also.) therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God . . .
Do you believe that the fallen angels that did the deed in Gen 6 are the angels that are in 2 Pet 2:4~~For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; And Jude 1:6~~And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
digging
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Dear JLB,
I was only agreeing with one small point he was making....
How it seems to me that the Angels in this case would be the only ones who had the ability to transform from spirit to flesh and back again, but their offspring would not have that ability just as we do not have that ability.
Digging
I was only agreeing with one small point he was making....
How it seems to me that the Angels in this case would be the only ones who had the ability to transform from spirit to flesh and back again, but their offspring would not have that ability just as we do not have that ability.
Digging
the phrase “benei ha-elohim” is a technical term used of those who could be said to be a direct creation of God. For example, what distinguishes Adam (but not Eve) and the angels from all other beings in the universe “is that each is directly created by God. Adam clearly was. So were the angels.”Hi Kathi and thanks for the response. In reality they were the only ones believing God at the time of the flood; the spiritual Ark of our salvation. We do the same today as we read of them of Moses in 1 Cor 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1Jn 3:1 . . the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: (Those dying in the flood were not sons of God, or they would be on the Ark also.) therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God . . .
All the other "sons of God" Become them from Faith.
Where is any scripture that shows creation to be a son? Below we see the process of becoming as Jesus. Their nakedness was covered by the shedding of blood.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
Did even Satan ever claim to be as God? Isa 14:13-14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Thanks.
K
King James
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This is never a good verse to use, although I've seen it used all the time. angels of God in heaven. So this is only talking about the good angels, not the bad ones.
Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. Did all flesh include Noah?
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. How?
Gen 6:9 . . Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Noah's father Lamech of the lineage of Jesus died five years prior to the flood, and Noah's grandfather Methuselah died the year the flood came. These were antediluvian sons of God. Were there other sons of God taken in the flood? To me it would surely be speculative. Thanks.
K
King James
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I don't see how anyone couldn't see the validation of Genesis 6 being directly connected with Jude 1:6 and 2 Peter 2:4 as you have pointed out.