Netanyahu will Try to Rebuild the Jewish Temple

[Cornelius]

Matthew I cannot help you . I also realize that most will not even give my post a second thought, because it goes against their belief. That is OK too. I am only writing this for a few, which most probably will not even post. I always hear about them later.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

I am not sure I understand how the Third Temple won't be built with human hands.

The First Temple Period (960 B.C. to 586 B.C) Built by Solomon, in 586 B.C. the Temple was destroyed by Babylon for Judah’s Sin. (Ezekiel 8-9)

The Second Temple Period (516 B.C. to A.D. 70). The Temple was rebuilt by the Jews who returned after the Persians defeated Babylon, completed in 516 B.C., the Temple was destroyed by the armies of Rome in A.D. 70

The Third Temple (Tribulation Temple) (Future). The Temple will be built, after the Dome of the Rock is removed, following the war of Gog and Magog. Islam as threat to Israel’s existence will end. The future world leader to come (Daniel 9:27) the Antichrist, will make a seven-year agreement allowing Temple worship and sacrifice, this end with the Abomination of Desolation.

So if the Third Temple is not built with human hands what is it that the Antichrist will enter into and declare himself God??

Bible Prophecy states that in the last days the Jewish temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt and that it will play a important role in the tribulation time.

When the third temple is built the anti-christ will invade the temple and declare himself god. What is he evading then ?

The Anti-Christ will then cause an overspreading of abomination which in the New Testament is revealed to be the Anti-Christ ceasing the Jewish animal sacrifices and Temple worship and installing himself in the temple probably in the holy place and presenting himself as God and constraining all people Jews and people of the nations (Gentiles) to worship him.

This scripture in Daniel 9 is a as follows:

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Daniel 9:27

This third temple is well on the way to construction. I personally subscribe to the http://www.templeinstitute.org RSS newsfeed. The timing of this temple is very important in bible prophecy and that's why I keep an eye on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDDADcT61SA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSKHV4-tA8w


P.S.

The Fourth Temple (The Millennium Temple) (Future). This is the Temple during the reign of King Messiah (Jesus Christ), the Glory of the Lord. (Ezekiel 40-43). This Temple follows the events of the Tribulation which end at Armagedd

I think Christains should be keeping an eye on the Third Temple status as in my view. It's one of the signs of endtimes. The world is trying to get Israel to divide and give up a Palestinian State I don't see anything in prophecy that says that will ever happen. (please correct me if I am wrong).

So right in the middle of this conflict we are going to see the construction of this temple right beside the Al-Aqsa Muslim Mosque on the Temple Mount (and I do mean right beside it). Then Animal sacrifices will start in the Temple while the world watches. This is not going to sit well with the Muslim world pushing a Palestinian State. You can see how this temple sets the foundation for more events of prophecy to take place. Keep in mind the world turns against Israel in the endtimes.

My Thoughts.

 

[parousia70]

This goes way beyond a simple case of nearsightedness. Perhaps a seeing eye dog is in order :shades. Wow, you FP folks are seriously out there in la la parousia land.

The real la la land is the insistance of the hyper futurists that Pauls (or any apostles) letters had ZERO application to the original receivers of them.

If the Hyper Futurists do claim there is original audience relevance, they have yet to explain what it was.

For the Hyper Futurist, the 1st century Christian didn't need to read or heed any eschatological message that was given to them, even if it was personally delivered by the aposlte himeslf.

 

[Vic C.]

Then Animal sacrifices will start in the Temple while the world watches. This is not going to sit well with the Muslim world pushing a Palestinian State

This isn't going to sit well with Jesus either. Think about it; He died on the Cross to put an end to more than just sin. He was to put an end to the entire sacrificial system that was meant only to cover sin for one year at a time. The whole concept of a new Temple and the return of the sacrificial system is so far removed from Biblical truth and the New Covenant, it pains me to think about it. ...and if it pains me, imagine how the Lord will feel.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

That's all about Jesus. Daniel is Messianic in nature, not anti-messianic, or antichrist. Jesus did confirm a covenant with the Jews when He first started His ministry, but was crucified 3 1/2 years later. It was another 3 1/2 years later when the first Gentile was offered up the Gospel of our Lord. Add the two periods together and you have your seven years or 70th. week.

Jesus' death on the cross effectively put and end to the old sacrificial system. Hence the part in the above verse that says:

"...in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..."

They made build a temple, but it won't be God ordained. The Temple that was to be rebuilt would not be made of stone. Jesus said :

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

John added this:

John 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

Jesus is the temple. We are the Body of Christ, therefore we are part of that Temple also. Paul makes that perfectly clear:

2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
1 Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1 Cor 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

So when you look at 2 Th 2:4 knowing what I said above to be Biblical and true, the meaning of this verse takes on a whole new meaning. Where will this man of sin try to reside? He would love nothing better than to deceive us into believing he is God. But we know better because we know our Master and we hear His voice and respond to no other.

I pray that is the case with all who profess to be followers of Jesus.

2 Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Vic:

Sorry I am confused are you saying the temple will not be made of stone and therefore will not be an actual physical temple?? Most of the temple will be made of gold as I understand it from the Temple Institute website.

Did you see the videos I posted in the last post from the Temple Institute? Reading these posts I am surprised how many believers do not believe in the actual physical construction of the third temple.

 

[Sinthesis]

Just wanted to say the original post is Islamic alarmist propaganda. :mad

 

[Cornelius]

Then Animal sacrifices will start in the Temple while the world watches. This is not going to sit well with the Muslim world pushing a Palestinian State

This isn't going to sit well with Jesus either. Think about it; He died on the Cross to put an end to more than just sin. He was to put an end to the entire sacrificial system that was meant only to cover sin for one year at a time. The whole concept of a new Temple and the return of the sacrificial system is so far removed from Biblical truth and the New Covenant, it pains me to think about it. ...and if it pains me, imagine how the Lord will feel.

True, so when we realize that there can never be a temple of stone (and gold) again with the name "Temple of GOD" then we have realize that Scripture now talks about Christians , the real temple and not a physical temple. A physical temple is blasphemy and God will never call it "temple of God"

2Th 2:4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God.

"He" is a "they" and "they" are already sitting among us in the temple of God. They are also part of the group called "tares".. The tares are sitting with the "wheat" in the kingdom of God. But not forever.They will invite the antichrist system into the church soon enough. Well, in many churches they have done so already, but because we are looking for a "man" called Antichrist, we miss them. For most Christians, they are under the radar.

"Setting up as God" means SELF rules (that would be flesh) and they do not follow Jesus to their cross to die to self (daily sacrifice) They remove the daily sacrifice and put SELF as God in the temple of God.

This should be clear for those who have "eyes to see and ears to hear"

C

 

[Solo]

Then Animal sacrifices will start in the Temple while the world watches. This is not going to sit well with the Muslim world pushing a Palestinian State

This isn't going to sit well with Jesus either. Think about it; He died on the Cross to put an end to more than just sin. He was to put an end to the entire sacrificial system that was meant only to cover sin for one year at a time. The whole concept of a new Temple and the return of the sacrificial system is so far removed from Biblical truth and the New Covenant, it pains me to think about it. ...and if it pains me, imagine how the Lord will feel.

True, so when we realize that there can never be a temple of stone (and gold) again with the name "Temple of GOD" then we have realize that Scripture now talks about Christians , the real temple and not a physical temple. A physical temple is blasphemy and God will never call it "temple of God"

2Th 2:4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God.

"He" is a "they" and "they" are already sitting among us in the temple of God. They are also part of the group called "tares".. The tares are sitting with the "wheat" in the kingdom of God. But not forever.They will invite the antichrist system into the church soon enough. Well, in many churches they have done so already, but because we are looking for a "man" called Antichrist, we miss them. For most Christians, they are under the radar.

"Setting up as God" means SELF rules (that would be flesh) and they do not follow Jesus to their cross to die to self (daily sacrifice) They remove the daily sacrifice and put SELF as God in the temple of God.

This should be clear for those who have "eyes to see and ears to hear"

C

Another load of guessing and personal interpretation concerning the truth of God's Word, and not even close to truth.

Believers are in Christ Jesus and are not of the flesh but of the Spirit. The temple of God is not the flesh, but of the new creature born of God in Christ. The abomination of desolation that Jesus speaks of in Matthew 24 sets himself up as God proclaiming himself to be God in God's temple. He cannot do this in the temple of God the believer.

When did God renege on His covenant with Israel?
Why are the 144,000 Jews from every tribe sealed and designated apart from the multitude who have washed themselves in the the blood of the lamb?
Why are the Israelites planning the building of the Temple if it is not going to happen?

I am amazed that so many can interpret the Scriptures away from the literal truth, and embellish and abstract opinion as truth and feel more spiritual than the next. Simply amazing. Those who follow the lies of the enemy are prophesied as being many in the last days leading up to His return by the Lord Jesus Christ. Many who call Jesus the Christ will deceive many with their doctrines of devils. Those who are deceived in this manner are deceived because they have not tested the spirit to see whether it is from God or is another spirit. It is better to take God at His Word as opposed to guessing a symbolic representation of His Word as being truth. Shame shame shame.

 

[Solo]

Then Animal sacrifices will start in the Temple while the world watches. This is not going to sit well with the Muslim world pushing a Palestinian State

This isn't going to sit well with Jesus either. Think about it; He died on the Cross to put an end to more than just sin. He was to put an end to the entire sacrificial system that was meant only to cover sin for one year at a time. The whole concept of a new Temple and the return of the sacrificial system is so far removed from Biblical truth and the New Covenant, it pains me to think about it. ...and if it pains me, imagine how the Lord will feel.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

That's all about Jesus. Daniel is Messianic in nature, not anti-messianic, or antichrist. Jesus did confirm a covenant with the Jews when He first started His ministry, but was crucified 3 1/2 years later. It was another 3 1/2 years later when the first Gentile was offered up the Gospel of our Lord. Add the two periods together and you have your seven years or 70th. week.

Jesus' death on the cross effectively put and end to the old sacrificial system. Hence the part in the above verse that says:

"...in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..."

They made build a temple, but it won't be God ordained. The Temple that was to be rebuilt would not be made of stone. Jesus said :

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

John added this:

John 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

Jesus is the temple. We are the Body of Christ, therefore we are part of that Temple also. Paul makes that perfectly clear:

2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
1 Cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1 Cor 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

So when you look at 2 Th 2:4 knowing what I said above to be Biblical and true, the meaning of this verse takes on a whole new meaning. Where will this man of sin try to reside? He would love nothing better than to deceive us into believing he is God. But we know better because we know our Master and we hear His voice and respond to no other.

I pray that is the case with all who profess to be followers of Jesus.

2 Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Did the sacrificial offering of animal sacrifices end the day that Jesus was crucified, or did they continue until the destruction of the temple in 70AD?

 

[Cornelius]

Did the sacrificial offering of animal sacrifices end the day that Jesus was crucified, or did they continue until the destruction of the temple in 70AD?

They did many things that are not from God and they are still doing it. But I will tell you the day that God stopped wanting sacrifices (regardless if the Jews stopped or not)

Heb 10:12 but he, when he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; On THAT day, the sacrificing of animals was useless, according to God.For ever.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

These animal scrafices continue to this day but not on a regular basis. You can see how they are teaching animal sacrfice right now at the Temple Institute website. Everything is ready to go, the wardrobe, altars, the cutting tools everything. To be honest I am not sure why they have not started actual construction of the temple yet.

There are a few videos out there if you want to see what is involved in these rituals the way a lamb and a red heffer are sacrificed. It is very gruesome. I can see why the world will be watching.

I am convinced the construction of the temple will happen in our lifetime and this is relevant (to me at least) as to when we are getting close to the rise of the Antichrist and the ultimate return of Christ (rapture views aside). The temple represents one of the important signs we should be watching (my opinion).

No one knows when Christ will return but we are clearly given the signs in scripture so we may educate ourselves on the signs of his coming. There is a part in scripture where Christ was upset with his disciples because they knew more about how to predict the weather then how to predict the signs of his return.

 

[Cornelius]

These animal scrafices continue to this day but not on a regular basis. You can see how they are teaching animal sacrfice right now at the Temple Institute website. Everything is ready to go, the wardrobe, altars, the cutting tools everything. To be honest I am not sure why they have not started actual construction of the temple yet.

Still the reality remains that no matter what the Jews decide to do, God will never call the temple they want to build again: "The Temple of God" (that is against the Gospel) So we do know that the "man" that is the "temple of God" is standing in (among) the congregation of God's people 2Th 2:4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God.

...............1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are a temple of God

 

[Cornelius]

I am convinced the construction of the temple will happen in our lifetime

Brother, the "temple" is almost done. We have come through the Dark Ages, where the temple was in ruins, but God has been restoring us , the people of God, the Temple. We are almost ready. We are only still in need of one thing: A Tribulation. The Temple needs the fire of this trial to be perfected. But we are here and its about to begin.

 

[Solo]

Did the sacrificial offering of animal sacrifices end the day that Jesus was crucified, or did they continue until the destruction of the temple in 70AD?

They did many things that are not from God and they are still doing it. But I will tell you the day that God stopped wanting sacrifices (regardless if the Jews stopped or not)

Heb 10:12 but he, when he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; On THAT day, the sacrificing of animals was useless, according to God.For ever.

So the Israelites can build another temple to God whether from God or not, and the man of perdition can set himself up as God which is not of God as well?

Also, the sacrifice of bulls and goats never did bring atonement for the sins of the Israelites, but they still did it. Is the sacrifice of bulls and goats the sacrifice that pays the penalty of sin? No, but the Israelites did so as a picture of the coming sacrifice. They still do not recognized that the Messiah has come, so what is going to keep them from building another Temple to God?

 

[nonbelieverforums]

I am convinced the construction of the temple will happen in our lifetime

Brother, the "temple" is almost done. We have come through the Dark Ages, where the temple was in ruins, but God has been restoring us , the people of God, the Temple. We are almost ready. We are only still in need of one thing: A Tribulation. The Temple needs the fire of this trial to be perfected. But we are here and its about to begin.

Cornelius,, sorry can you explain this.. Are you saying the reference to the Third Temple is not a "physical temple" but the term "third temple" is just analogy in the bible.. I am not challenging you, just asking for clarification.

The first two temples as referenced in the bible were physical temples:

The First Temple Period (960 B.C. to 586 B.C) Built by Solomon, in 586 B.C. the Temple was destroyed by Babylon for Judah’s Sin. (Ezekiel 8-9)

The Second Temple Period (516 B.C. to A.D. 70). The Temple was rebuilt by the Jews who returned after the Persians defeated Babylon, completed in 516 B.C., the Temple was destroyed by the armies of Rome in A.D. 70

 

[Cornelius]

So the Israelites can build another temple to God whether from God or not, and the man of perdition can set himself up as God which is not of God as well?

Also, the sacrifice of bulls and goats never did bring atonement for the sins of the Israelites, but they still did it. Is the sacrifice of bulls and goats the sacrifice that pays the penalty of sin? No, but the Israelites did so as a picture of the coming sacrifice. They still do not recognized that the Messiah has come, so what is going to keep them from building another Temple to God?

The answer is here: God wrote the Bible and He chose the words. God will never call a new temple "the temple of God". He would not choose those words, because if He did call it "The temple of God" He would be denying the Gospel.

So when we read the words "the temple of God" in 2Th 2:4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God. we know that God cannot be referring to a physical temple , but that He is indeed talking about the spiritual temple.

As such , we then have to look with spiritual eyes, to gain understanding about that verse.

2) Yes they sacrificed UNTIL Jesus came. God wanted it that way, it was not their choice to sacrifice, they were told exactly how and when to do it according to God's Law. After Jesus, that Law came to an end, as we see in the Gospel. So no more and never again will God require a single sacrifice. Why? Because Jesus came to fulfill the Law. It is now done and no more reason to "bring a picture of a coming sacrifice" because that sacrifice has already been manifested in Jesus.

 

[Cornelius]

Cornelius,, sorry can you explain this.. Are you saying the reference to the Third Temple is not a "physical temple" but the term "third temple" is just analogy in the bible.. I am not challenging you, just asking for clarification.

The first two temples as referenced in the bible were physical temples:

The First Temple Period (960 B.C. to 586 B.C) Built by Solomon, in 586 B.C. the Temple was destroyed by Babylon for Judah’s Sin. (Ezekiel 8-9)

The Second Temple Period (516 B.C. to A.D. 70). The Temple was rebuilt by the Jews who returned after the Persians defeated Babylon, completed in 516 B.C., the Temple was destroyed by the armies of Rome in A.D. 70

I think that it is very likely that the Jews will build a real temple in these days.But if we are going to look at that temple and call it a "temple of God" we are not preaching nor understanding the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We would be denying it.

Everything that we as a church goes through, God first made Israel go through it in the natural. THEN the church has to go through it in the spirit. For instance. When you see armies around physical Israel, you will also "armies around the church" . Not armies in the physical, but armies in the spirit. Look at America these days and you will notice an increase in a negative attitude regarding God and Christians.Their government would rather admit to communism these days, than to admit that God has a place in their government anymore. A huge difference from the founding fathers and what use to be a Christian nation. We see a spiritual move against the church , just as we see a physical threat starting around physical Israel.

Israel trying to rebuild the temple, is very much like what we see in Christianity. We too have lost our temple in a way. We are scattered and faith is a lost word.No power in the church anymore, just religious hype. God has left the "temple" with us as well. We need a restoration as much as Israel is trying to rebuild the physical stones as well.

So I am trying to warn against only looking at physical Israel and missing spiritual Israel. For us its more important to realize what is happening to the church and not miss it, because our view is on a middle eastern country.

C

 

[Solo]

So the Israelites can build another temple to God whether from God or not, and the man of perdition can set himself up as God which is not of God as well?

Also, the sacrifice of bulls and goats never did bring atonement for the sins of the Israelites, but they still did it. Is the sacrifice of bulls and goats the sacrifice that pays the penalty of sin? No, but the Israelites did so as a picture of the coming sacrifice. They still do not recognized that the Messiah has come, so what is going to keep them from building another Temple to God?

The answer is here: God wrote the Bible and He chose the words. God will never call a new temple "the temple of God". He would not choose those words, because if He did call it "The temple of God" He would be denying the Gospel.

So when we read the words "the temple of God" in 2Th 2:4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God. we know that God cannot be referring to a physical temple , but that He is indeed talking about the spiritual temple.

As such , we then have to look with spiritual eyes, to gain understanding about that verse.

2) Yes they sacrificed UNTIL Jesus came. God wanted it that way, it was not their choice to sacrifice, they were told exactly how and when to do it according to God's Law. After Jesus, that Law came to an end, as we see in the Gospel. So no more and never again will God require a single sacrifice. Why? Because Jesus came to fulfill the Law. It is now done and no more reason to "bring a picture of a coming sacrifice" because that sacrifice has already been manifested in Jesus.

Believe what you want, but your theology is fringe theology based on supposition and guesswork without any semblance of truth. God still has a covenant with Israel, and this covenant is not based on your guesswork or suppositions of an abstract interpretation of Scripture. Israel has not come to believe that the Messiah has come, and they continue to wait for the Messiah. They will rebuild the temple and will worship the son of perdition as the Messiah until the two witnesses preach the truth in Jerusalem after the abomination of desolation is set up as God in the temple.

To proclaim that satan sets himself up inside believers, and believers proclaim their self as God is a ridiculous supposition, not to mention unbiblical.

Satan is much to proud to not set himself up as God in a temple constructed with the hands of man proclaiming all is his to be worshipped. He is the great counterfeiter, and he will counterfeit all that God set up for worshipping Him with the temple being the same. You can follow others in their guesswork of what the Scriptures say as they are brought to believe that the enemy wouldn't dare set himself up as a visible "angel of light" purporting to be God in the "temple of God" bringing all nations to wonder after him.

I'll bet that you also believe that a born again Christian can lose their salvation as well?

 

[Cornelius]

Well there we have it. Two views. One by Solo, and the other by me. Now its up to the reader to go to the Lord and have Him tell you what is correct, because we both cannot be correct and you are not suppose to trust either one of us, you are suppose to ask the Lord if you are unsure. If you are not going to ask Him you will land up with just an opinion.


blessings
C

 

[Vic C.]

Sorry I am confused are you saying the temple will not be made of stone and therefore will not be an actual physical temple?? Most of the temple will be made of gold as I understand it from the Temple Institute website.

What I said basically, was that the 'third' temple already exists, so it's not "will not", but "is not"; the third temple is not made of stone. This 'new' temple, as described in the NT, specifically the verses I mentioned, is not physical. Jesus is the Temple that was rebuilt in three days; we are the Body of Christ, therefore we are part of that Temple; we are the Temple of God. I'm not arguing against anyone's beliefs; I'm just presenting what has been revealed to me in the Scriptures. I used to believe all this pretrib, new temple, dispensational stuff but not anymore.

So they can build their temple out of whatever material they choose; it's a self-fulfillment of a man-made prophecy as far as I'm concerned.

Did the sacrificial offering of animal sacrifices end the day that Jesus was crucified, or did they continue until the destruction of the temple in 70AD?

Sacrifices ceased in 70 AD, I think we cal all agree on that. However, the effectiveness of them died on the Cross with our Savior. The effectiveness of much died that early evening of the Crucifixion.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Michael, I am still PreWrath in the strictest sense, I just no longer fit within the confines of much of today's popular beliefs concerning End Times. It all came about because over the last year or two, I have taken an interest in the Reformers views and adopted some of their end times beliefs.