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Netflix Hiking Prices

Mike

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I knew this wouldn't last. I joined Netflix early on about 6 years ago for about $8 a month. When they hyped up with instant streaming it got even better. But now Netflix has little real competition, and they are making members pay... dearly. Now they've separated the discs by mail and the Watch Instantly for a combined monthly fee of $18/month.

And if that wasn't reason enough to bail, they are cutting a lot of the available shows and movies to watch instantly. No longer can you watch "30 Rock", "The Office" and "Dexter". These are just the ones I've noticed, and I'll bet there are many more. Result? More money and a lesser product.

I'm outta here! Anybody else?

Does anyone have another way to stream video? Problem is, others probably don't offer the ability to use our PS3 to watch on our TV.
 
I ditched them a long time ago. You should do it so that you can keep them. I get constant Emails saying "Come back, and we'll start you free for a month and $8 after that!" I've been able to get about a month free of renting through Netflix each year :lol and once it ends I just quit.

There are other options like Blockbuster. Have you looked into them? There are also plenty of legit "stream through your PS3, Xbox, Wii" websites out there as well.

I personally just go the local Redbox! It's great. $1.00 to rent a movie for the day, and return it the next. While the local video store charges $5.00 to rent a movie for 4 days, despite the fact that you're only going to watch it once! I have a strong feeling that if Blockbuster had adapted to the Redbox competition they wouldn't have had to close down all their stores in my area.
 
I've not dug into it too much. I have the one DVD Blue Ray and unlimited streaming deal. I've watched tons of the streaming movies and I have one DVD lost in my house some where (China Town). But, if that's the case I'm probably going to rethink it.

I wish Netflix would just offer it all on streaming. I've no use for the physical DVD and frankly I'd rather pay a monthly fee for unlimited + any extra per movie that would not otherwise be available under the unlimited deal. That's worth $18 I guess, plus $5 per new release, or whatever.

The biggest problem with all this is the studios vs the distributors. The distributors are all competing for the rights, but the studios are also competing for the distribution. That's why you can get some movies from some distributors, but not others.

The consumer does not want to have to be a member of four or five distributors to watch what they want to watch, and the distributors make these exclusive deals with some studios for the release rights. For example, this week you can watch instantly the movie "Rango" on Vudu, but you can only get the DVD from netflix. But it was available on Vudu first for about 5 days, before Netflix could even send the first one out. Red Box won't have it for several more months. :lol ,and by then everyone will have seen it. Crazy.

I'm thinking of just going with Vudu, but I still like being able to see my favorite old movies and such whenever I want on Netflix without paying extra for them. I just know that at the moment I don't need or want to wait for a shinny disk to come in the mail, or have to go pick one up. Streaming is the future for distribution. Our kids will some day tell their kids..."When I was your age we had these things call CD's and DVD's! You had to go to the store and buy or rent one then take it home to listen to it, or watch it. There was this one outfit that would mail them to you...but you had to wait." :)
 
#1 - I challenge anyone to show a cheaper alternative with the same selection.
#2 - If you do, I switch and say "good job" or such.
#3 - The only cable I have is bare minimum channels for free cause I know the cable guy who came out to turn it off. His name is not Larry.
#4 - Yes I use Netflix.

Thing is, I spent considerable time last week reading every article from both sides of the fence. Sony pulled most or all(?) of it's catalog. The contracts with all the other studios expires next year. Rumor says they will DRAMATICALLY raise fees to Netflix cause when Netflix started their membership was so small that it was seen as more of an advertising expense than anything else. Now with over 20 million members, the studios see it as lost revenue. I find that I am watching whole seasons of programs that I missed before. Watching one new release dvd by mail vs going to the theater pays/saves a couple months. My only complaint is that the list of streaming movies is small, but still tons that I had never seen before.
 
There are other options like Blockbuster. Have you looked into them? There are also plenty of legit "stream through your PS3, Xbox, Wii" websites out there as well.
Blockbuster was lame from the time they started offering mail order. They had all kinds of restrictions, and the waiting list for new releases was the worst! I almost never have a waiting list with Netflix. It got so I couldn't tolerate it anymore and we went back with Netflix. But that was for a short time. Blockbuster got out of the rent-by-mail business, Netflix had less competition, and they started acting like it. :gah
I personally just go the local Redbox! It's great. $1.00 to rent a movie for the day, and return it the next.
We thought about going with Redbox, but the rental period starts at 9:00pm and ends at the same time, or you're carged another day?? Huh? I may be old, but who starts a movie after 9:00pm OR ends one by 8:30pm to get it back in time?? Plus, we watch Blu Ray DVD's and thos cost more. Now, assuming we don't fit a rental in to a single 9-9 24-hour period, and we're paying between $4 & $5 a rental! I might as well walk up the Blockbuster!! (He was lookin' kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an ell on his forehead.)
I wish Netflix would just offer it all on streaming. I've no use for the physical DVD and frankly I'd rather pay a monthly fee for unlimited + any extra per movie that would not otherwise be available under the unlimited deal. That's worth $18 I guess, plus $5 per new release, or whatever.

The biggest problem with all this is the studios vs the distributors.

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I'm thinking of just going with Vudu
I read a while ago the plan was for Netflix to go completely streaming. I agree! It would be great to never deal with DVD's again. I never heard of Vudu. Danus, you're not thinking of Hulu, are you? :confused
#1 - I challenge anyone to show a cheaper alternative with the same selection.
Yeah, the same selection of GARBAGE!! Every time I check them out to look for a movie, I think, "Okay, I'm gonna find something this time!!". I end up scrolling through countless pages of movies that never even made it to theaters because they were 3rd rate. The amount of titles they have to choose from does sound impressive, until you go to find something interesting, and then it's just frustrating. The worst part is, not only can't I find a decent movie, but I wasted 20 minutes picking through the B-section on-line. (He was lookin' kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an ell on his forehead.) :lol
 
Mike said:
We thought about going with Redbox, but the rental period starts at 9:00pm and ends at the same time, or you're carged another day?? Huh? I may be old, but who starts a movie after 9:00pm OR ends one by 8:30pm to get it back in time?? Plus, we watch Blu Ray DVD's and thos cost more. Now, assuming we don't fit a rental in to a single 9-9 24-hour period, and we're paying between $4 & $5 a rental! I might as well walk up the Blockbuster!! (He was lookin' kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape of an ell on his forehead.)

LOL, Mike. That's not exactly it. If you have a Droid or an iPhone you can d/l the Redbox app. It shows you there list of movies, and then it finds your location and tells you the closest boxes to you. You can pick a location and it tells you all the movies present at that one box.It also finds a specific movie for you. You're right about the Blu Ray. They don't have many of those and I think it is 50 cents more. But basically you can get a movie at any time during day 1 and it has to go back by 9 pm the next day. So, if you get a movie at 7:00 am on Thursday, you have to return it by 9:00pm Friday. Hope that makes sense. But, I guess your Blu Ray eltism :lol is going to make it hard for you :rolling
 
I can almost without fail know within 5-10 minutes if I will like the movie or not. With Redbox or Blockbuster I am screwed. With Netflix streaming I just choose the next movie on the list. Netflix streaming movie list is not so good but still I can watch the made for TV stuff that I missed because I did not have the cable channels at the time.
 
LOL, Mike. That's not exactly it. If you have a Droid or an iPhone you can d/l the Redbox app. It shows you there list of movies, and then it finds your location and tells you the closest boxes to you. You can pick a location and it tells you all the movies present at that one box.It also finds a specific movie for you. You're right about the Blu Ray. They don't have many of those and I think it is 50 cents more. But basically you can get a movie at any time during day 1 and it has to go back by 9 pm the next day. So, if you get a movie at 7:00 am on Thursday, you have to return it by 9:00pm Friday. Hope that makes sense. But, I guess your Blu Ray eltism :lol is going to make it hard for you :rolling

That is good good news, because the website for RB says it's 9-9! I'm sorta hosed on the Blu Ray thing. We got our PS3 so we could watch BR on it when we wanted to. (Oh, and of course so our oldest kid could game on it.) Now that the warranty has expired, something went POW inside it, and it doesn't play regular DVD's; only Blu Ray. :gah It costs $150 to have it repaired, and I'm thinking about getting a regular DVD player to add to our system. This is way off topic, but I just wanted to say this in defense of my "Blu Ray elitism". :lol

Red Box doesn't offer the ease of getting a movie sent to you. I don't like being on the clock once I get a movie home. Send it, and I'll watch it when we have time. Streaming is the best option, which leads me to RW again...


I can almost without fail know within 5-10 minutes if I will like the movie or not. With Redbox or Blockbuster I am screwed. With Netflix streaming I just choose the next movie on the list. Netflix streaming movie list is not so good but still I can watch the made for TV stuff that I missed because I did not have the cable channels at the time.

Streaming is the BEST... if you can get a good selection of top movies/shows. I agree with the rental issue you have, as I said above. The problem is that now that Netflix has such a hold of the mail/streaming market, they are hiking their prices while (and this is important) dropping certain movies AND TV shows from the Instant list. I read an article that said when they decided to put the increase in place, their analysis told them they would make enough from the higher rates to absorb the mass-exodus of customers who leave. Well... we'll see... Count me in as part of their analysis, cause I-AM-OUTTA-HERE by August 31st!!!
 
I read a while ago the plan was for Netflix to go completely streaming. I agree! It would be great to never deal with DVD's again. I never heard of Vudu. Danus, you're not thinking of Hulu, are you? :confused

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Nope, not hulu; vudu. There are a bunch of outfits getting into the streaming media game these days. If you buy a blue-ray player or comparable device they will be pre-loaded with a few of the big boys like Netflix and Block Buster, but there are others like Vudu and Pandora (Music).

What we'll see, very soon, is a wi-fi world. We are already there, and the devices are almost all in place. It's the internet meets the airways. In ten years tablets and pads will be as common as the Ol' desk top is today, but I think we'll see more of this type of technology integrated into other devices like TV's. Everything will be a screen. Screen in your car, screen in your house, screen you can carry with you, screen at your desk. There will be accessories for these "screens" like a keyboard or some sort of holding device ... eventually screens on your various appliances....All will have "APS" for there own purposes. Netflix will just be another "App" along with dozens of others to choose from.

Things you'll see more of in antique stores.....Books, casset and 8-track tapes, phonographs, record players, old stereos.... remember BIG speakers? (:)) Who cares about that anymore? I recall feeling pretty old when my 5 year old pointed to a record player in an antique store (a few years ago).."Daddy What's that?" Why that's a record player. We use to listen to them on these plastic disk and if you spun them backwards you could hear the devil! :lol
 
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I honestly don't see any issue with what Netflix has done- It offers a wide selection of decent instant movies and countless instant full seasons of great shows, as well as any movie you may want via mail. People have been buying into blockbusters scam for years now (I myself included) and Netflix has not gone over their price but yet offers SO much more, so I say Bravo to them. No longer to I have to pay 3-4 bucks for a single disk of "X" show seasons (which only contains 4-5 episodes per disk)- but I can watch hundreds of shows back to back to back without commercial or interruptions! And you want to talk about the quality of shows? Here's my favorites to name just a few

Star Trek: TOS
Star Trek: TNG
Star Trek: VOY
Star Trek: ENT
Beakman's World
Angry Beavers
Rugrats
Hero's
Jackie Chan's Adventures
VR Troopers
Power Rangers (The Original)
Married With Children
Mr Bean
Animated Mr Bean
TOP GEAR
Weeds
Black Adder
That 70's
X-Files
Bones
Futurama
Family Guy
Myth Busters
Rocko's Modern Life
Ren and Stimpy
News Radio
Sponge Bob
Zena
Sliders
Stargate SG-1
Quantum Leap
Hurcules
Highlander
The Crow
X-Men
3rd Rock
Sparticus
Monk
Chapelle Show
Etc etc etc...

The seasons alone is worth over a thousand dollars easy- add in the instant movies and the huge selection of DVD's that arrive within two days and 20 bucks doesn't seem like so much for what you get. I don't know why people make such a huge fuss about it, I sometimes have to remember that many people do not understand what kind of system really needs to be implemented in order for something this massive to reach those across the nation into millions of homes/ipads/cell phones/gaming systems/computers to make people happy.
 
My wife and I just recently subscribed to Netflix (still in the free month) and will continue to subscribe. We only signed up for the streaming subscription, but we did have teh option of adding DvDs of Blue Rays for $2. We had decided that we may do that at a later time, but for now we were just interested in the streaming aspect of Netflix, which now that they are raising prices on streaming and DvD, we'll just stick with streaming.

Just wish they had 3D options. My wife and I had been saving up for many months to get a new TV. We were using her old 19" TV and she was starting to have a hard time watching it, even with glasses on, so we had decided to get a larger TV. We decided on a Vizio 47" 3D HDTV from Walmart. We paid $855 for it and to us it was a great bargain.
 
I knew this wouldn't last. I joined Netflix early on about 6 years ago for about $8 a month. When they hyped up with instant streaming it got even better. But now Netflix has little real competition, and they are making members pay... dearly. Now they've separated the discs by mail and the Watch Instantly for a combined monthly fee of $18/month.

I'd say that Netflix has plenty of competition, not only from Red Box but, other streaming services as well. Netflix may be the only firm that offers both DVD/Blu-Ray & streaming video however, clearly this type of service is in high demand so more than likely other firms will jump in. Especially the Blockbuster/Hollywood Video firms being put out of business by Netflix!
As far as pricing goes, it's helpful to keep in mind that resources are inherently scarce and, most have alternative uses. Demand plays a huge part in how scarce resources are allocated to their most efficient use. The petroleum used to produce CD's can also be used to produce myriad amounts of other products spanning multiple firms & industries. An increase in demand for any one petroleum product is a signal to the market to shift supply to adequatley meet that demand. It is also a signal to raise prices in order to meet demand.


For example: Milk is used to produce ice cream, yogurt, and cheese. If the demand for ice cream increases, dairy firms must raise the price of ice cream and shift the supply of milk to producing ice cream in order to meet that demand otherwise, they run out of ice cream to sell (shortage). Conversely, dairy firms must lower the price of yogurt & butter and shift supply of milk away from them otherwise, they have a bunch of yogurt & butter on their hands that nobody wants to buy (surplus).

In other words, crude oil as a resource that has alternative uses, plays a HUGE part in the way Netflix does business. Not only as a producer of petroleum based products but, as a consumer of them as well. Any increase in demand or decrease in supply eventually affects their prices. Raising revenue by increasing prices in order to meet demand is essential for Netflix (or any other firm) to stay in business. This is just one of the many aspects of how Netflix, and the market in general, operate.




And if that wasn't reason enough to bail, they are cutting a lot of the available shows and movies to watch instantly. No longer can you watch "30 Rock", "The Office" and "Dexter". These are just the ones I've noticed, and I'll bet there are many more. Result? More money and a lesser product.

As another user mentioned, this is due to intellectual property rights. The explosion of the video rental/streaming industry is challenging the way studios and distributers do business. As long as consumers like ourselves ( I also have Netflix and enjoy the office) continue to demand these services, all firms involved must get their act together or risk going out of business.

They key point to remember is that, ultimately, price is based on what consumers are willing to pay. If you don't want to spend $18/month, simply "bail" and send a signal to Netflix and the market that $18/month is a price you are unwilling to pay.
 
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