NIV Bible

[Donovb]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

 

[Eugene]

Good morning. I personally read the KJV mostly due to the fact there is more reference material available, and as a result I remember more scripture when doing a search. When I attempt to read too many other versions I forget how it is said, and then with other versions you can run into copyright problems. To me the "A person isn't saved," or a certain version is of the devil if they don't see things as I do doesn't ring true. I once heard advice to read the one you enjoy and understand the most. I have ran into what I consider error in various renderings of certain scripture, but I too may have already made up my mind; I certainly don't see certain some doctrines the same as others, and that may be due to my inhibited knowledge, or my superior spirituality, and in that case I choose the latter.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

NIV.

I speak English and the NIV is simple English.
And I'm a simple man.

KJV is a foreign language to me.

 

[n2thelight]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

Don't know if it's of satan,but the study at the below link should help

I, i am still here and this link will not be posted reba

 

[TimothyW]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

I can understand the KJV, I've read that. I've also read the NIV, and I am currently reading the OT in the ESV, and the NT in Greek. (Because I never learned to read in Hebrew)

I think it would be best,if someone is overly concerned about translation issues, to learn the original languages and read the Bible in those languages. But that is not always possible, so then why not read the Bible in as many different versions as you can?

 

[TimothyW]

Don't know if it's of satan,but the study at the below link should help

edited by pizza per reba

Hi Out,

I went to the link, and it says "the King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of God."
I think that is not entirely correct. The Bible in the original languages should be be called "the true word of God". The KJV is a translation of "the true word of God".

 

[Willie T]

Gosh.... Imagine the millions and millions of people who are unsaved because they lived BEFORE the KJV was written.
See? It really doesn't take too much thinking to see the truth.

 

[Doulos Iesou]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

NIV is kind of on the outskirts of what is deemed a literal translation, in that the translators render their interpretation a little more than some other translations. It still is a great translation with fantastic scholarship and should be regarded as a valuable tool, that I would personally recommend for devotional purposes rather than indepth studying.

The KJV uses words that have different meanings in modern English and also sourced the Latin Vulgate translation which influences some of the language it uses. I would personally recommend a more current literal translation, such as the NKJV, ESV, NASB or LEB, etc.

I would also be careful what you listen to from people who try to wholly discredit translations or then try to say that only one translation is viable. Those are extreme positions that don't have any rational basis.

 

[evenifigoalone]

These days I like to read out of the ESV. I have no problem understanding the KJV, but that's because I grew up with it and am fairly familiar with the archaic word usage. (My family was KJV only.)
Nowhere in the Bible will you find that you're only saved if you can understand the KJV. That is man's speculation.

 

[Willie T]

I'm a bit of a Shakespeare nut, so I love the Elizabethan style language. But I will warn you of one thing. You would not believe the number of people who can get the completely OPPOSITE meaning of many verses, simply because of the particular sentence structure used back then.

This is no joke. I see it all the time. So, for that reason, I never suggest the KJV to people not familiar with how they spoke in those days.

I grew up on the KJV, but I switched to the NIV when I was in the Church of Christ, thirty years ago. More recently, I have found that I like the GW translation best.... however, I seldom read less than five to seven translations when I am really digging into something. I am not so much interested in the use of certain words, as I am in being sure I have understood the INTENT of the author of a certain passage.

 

[reba]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

If one reads the Bible verses printed in Hallmark cards it is still Gods Word.....Salvation comes from the Blood of our Lord,, not from a translation authorized by a king of England

 

[evenifigoalone]

"For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven
and do not return there but water the earth,
making it bring forth and sprout,
giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but it shall accomplish that which I purpose,
and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it."
Isaiah 55:10-11 ESV

God's Word isn't bound by translation. Not to say that some translations aren't better than others (which ones are debatable), but God can use the truth contained in any translation.

 

[WIP]

Words take on different meanings in different cultures and different times.

The KJV was written over 400 years ago in England when the language used was different from today. Many words have taken on new meanings, sometimes to the complete opposite of what they had years ago. In some cases, the words used by the English (British) have completely different meanings or even complete opposite meanings from those used by other English speaking areas of the world. Here are a couple examples that I found.

Some words that the meanings have changed.
Nice: This word originally from the 14th century originally meant foolish or silly.
Bully: In the 16th century this word was a compliment meaning good fellow or darling.
Cute: A cute person in the 18th century was considered shrewd or perceptive.
Awful: This word originally meant awe inspiring or more accurately, full of awe.
Defecate: In the 16th century this word meant to clean or purify.
Amazed: This originally meant frightened.
Desire: In the middle ages this meant to gaze up at the stars.
Wicked or Bad: Today these words are often used to mean something cool or very good.

Some words that have different meanings in US compared to England.
Biscuit: British term for what we in the US refer to as a cookie or cracker.
Scone: British term for what we call a biscuit in the US.
Mad: British – Crazy, insane. US – annoyed, angry.
Bomb: British - a striking success. US - a failure. Shared - explosive weapon.
Deadbeat: British - exhausted. US - idler, loafer, one that doesn't pay debts.
Liquor: British – vegetable or meat broth. US – alcoholic beverage.
Seeded: British – with seeds left in. US – with seeds removed.

To compensate for these differences, it can be very beneficial to create versions that reflect modern understanding and meaning. Unless one reads the KJV with the eye of a learned scholar of the English language it can be quite difficult to make sense of some of the text.

I believe one must read the Bible as a whole and not just pull out bits and pieces of the text. It is also critical to be open to the Holy Spirit that He may give one the wisdom to understand the text as He meant it to be.

 

[CenturionForChrist]

I usually use the NIV or New King James. Anyone that claims the KJV is the only true bible is liar, since when does the whole world speak english?

 

[jay55]

I keep hearing people saying that the NIV Bible is Satan, and to only read the KJV Bible. Ive also heard that if you cannot understand the KJV Bible than your probably not truly saved. How many of you read the NIV Bible as opposed tip the KJV Bible and do you think that your not truly saved of you can't understand the KJV?

You could try the NKJV (New King James) - more modern english. I use that one but do also use the NIV. However, I try to use the NIV (1984) as the newest one is a little too politically correct for me with all the inclusive language changes they have made.

 

[CenturionForChrist]

My point was there are many languages so the KJV couldnt possibly be the only true Bible.

 

[evenifigoalone]

This is in general (not necessarily directed at any one person), but please bare in mind that the Lounge is a place for more casual, relaxed discussion

--staff

 

[Malachi]

My point was there are many languages so the KJV couldnt possibly be the only true Bible.

Your reference to other languages implied that those who hold such a view expect non-English speakers to use the KJV. That is simply not the case. There are indeed faithful translations in all languages that stand on the same ground as the KJV. In any event, you do need to dig deeper, and if you are prepared to accept that suggestion, you will discover the truth for yourself.

 

[Kathi]

I am not comfortable with the KJV because it is difficult for me to understand at times.I like the NKJV.The NIV has the gender-neutral language so that is why I do not read NIV.

 

[reba]

My point was there are many languages so the KJV couldnt possibly be the only true Bible.

Your reference to other languages implied that those who hold such a view expect non-English speakers to use the KJV. That is simply not the case. There are indeed faithful translations in all languages that stand on the same ground as the KJV. In any event, you do need to dig deeper, and if you are prepared to accept that suggestion, you will discover the truth for yourself.

Sounds like the same thing to my simple mind...