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NO HELL?

I am quite swayed by this argument. The millennial kingdom is far more than just good Christians sitting on thrones for 1000 years. Its actually helping evangelize those who previously didn't have the opportunity.

Just a hint for you...

There will be those who survive the Tribulation and the Day of the Lord. They will live on over into the Millenium. This is shown by several scriptures...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

If you are not a human dependant on agriculture, would you care if it rained? Just to whet your appetite and hopefully encourage a little study into this for yourself, what do you think those who are in the first resurrection might be doing...

Isa 30:20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
 
Just a hint for you...

There will be those who survive the Tribulation and the Day of the Lord. They will live on over into the Millenium. This is shown by several scriptures...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

If you are not a human dependant on agriculture, would you care if it rained? Just to whet your appetite and hopefully encourage a little study into this for yourself, what do you think those who are in the first resurrection might be doing...

Isa 30:20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Yep, we will help to convert those left over, I also believe that aborted/miscarried babies will be among those in the first resurrection.
 
Yep, we will help to convert those left over, I also believe that aborted/miscarried babies will be among those in the first resurrection.

I don't know where they fit in, whether it be first or second. Doesn't matter, God's plan includes a chance for all to choose life.
 
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Something I find very interesting is that there are some who will bristle up and say "That is a second chance" with anger in their voice. It is not a second chance, it is their first chance, but even if it were a second chance, would it make you angry that God is so gracious that He would give a second chance?

(It is not a second chance, but if God gave 10 chances I would rejoice that those people who accepted would receive life.)
 
Something I find very interesting is that there are some who will bristle up and say "That is a second chance" with anger in their voice. It is not a second chance, it is their first chance, but even if it were a second chance, would it make you angry that God is so gracious that He would give a second chance?

(It is not a second chance, but if God gave 10 chances I would rejoice that those people who accepted would receive life.)

666 will sort out those who will be saved & those who will not be. The free choice will be your own very mature one to make. And after mature seperation in both directions will follow Nah. 1:9 shortly after.
--Elijah
 
666 will sort out those who will be saved & those who will not be. The free choice will be your own very mature one to make. And after mature seperation in both directions will follow Nah. 1:9 shortly after.
--Elijah

Actually, Rev 20:4-5 seems to separate those very well...

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Those who accept the mark will not be in the first resurrection, but then, there are two more to come. Those who knowingly reject God and accept the mark seem destined for the third, but those who are hoodwinked into it, (those not called in this age) seem destined for the second resurrection.
 
Actually, Rev 20:4-5 seems to separate those very well...

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Those who accept the mark will not be in the first resurrection, but then, there are two more to come. Those who knowingly reject God and accept the mark seem destined for the third, but those who are hoodwinked into it, (those not called in this age) seem destined for the second resurrection.

i' find seperations seen in the Bible from old Israel to extended Acts new Israel replacing them while they all still stayed put. (Matt. 23:38) And then again with these of the Acts ones again having a falling away. (seperation) Compare Eccl. 3:15

Surely we find the Rev. 17:1-5 ones ALL done when the 666 thing takes place. So the ones in the world will no doubt be the only ones who benefit by accepting Christ who have had no opportunity to do so untile this was proclaimed throughout the whole world during this persecution time. And I see the Rev. 17 ones being the enforcers of 666. (church/state)

And I agree to your Rev.'s seperation very well remark. But my main thought is for these here like on the forum being saved! Like the verse of Rev. 18:4 projects. Surely they are to know this fact, right?? And 1 Peter 4 finds that the professed Christian's will be seperated & judged first before Christ comes again.

[17] For the time is come that judgment [[must begin at the house of God]]: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

I do not know your convictions on the judgement? But I see 'total' seperation done when Christ returns. (Rev. 22:12 finds His reward of eternal life or death brought with Him)
And I see it as the Wicked that are all now dead staying dead, and the living wicked being executed by the brightness of Christ coming with all wicked being dead. And being judged in part by the saints during the 1000 years. (1 Cor. 6:2-3) Then all return to earth for their resurrection for them to die the eternal second death and receive execution according to their past sins. See Luke 12:47-48 degrees of punishment.

Who knows, perhaps we see this alike?;)

--Elijah
 
Revelation 20:7-15
When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth —Gog and Magog —and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.​
Revelation 14:10,11
they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.â€​
Matthew 25:41-46
“Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

“Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’

“And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’

“And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.â€​
Isaiah 30:33
Topheth—the place of burning—
has long been ready for the Assyrian king;
the pyre is piled high with wood.
The breath of the Lord, like fire from a volcano,
will set it ablaze.​
(Just so you understand that Topeth is the place the Assyrians are going, and it is a place of fire.

Isaiah 66:24
And as they go out, they will see
the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me.
For the worms that devour them will never die,
and the fire that burns them will never go out.

All who pass by
will view them with utter horror.â€​
And to show you this is the truth of the above scripture from Isaiah let's see Jesus quoting it, shall we?

Mark 47-49
And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where

“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.
’​


Great Scriptures, Pard :thumbsup
 
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BUT OH HOW GREAT is God, because He sacrificed His own Son that we may not have to bear such a punishment! Praise God for that truth! This is why we must understand the nature of Hell, so that we may greater understand the glory of God!


:clap :amen
 
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