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vivalenca

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when you think about the events pertaining American history in mid 1960's after the passing of laws regarding civil rights, what positive and negative positions from white churches come to mind?
In a more present situation, what churches do you know of that are successful examples of multi-race congregations?
Thank you for your thoughts!
 
vivalenca said:
when you think about the events pertaining American history in mid 1960's after the passing of laws regarding civil rights, what positive and negative positions from white churches come to mind?
In a more present situation, what churches do you know of that are successful examples of multi-race congregations?
Thank you for your thoughts!
i have attended one church that is mixed for a while, it was good , i left due to work schedules, and my new church does have some people of color,not as much as the church i attended before.
 
Sunday morning, and it has been since the 1700's in this country, is the most segregated time in this country, in this country people come to worship the Lord, but don't want to do it with another brother or sister with a different skin tone. Little do these stupid people know, is that God does not except people like that. We are all the same in His eyes. And something that I have noticed on this board, when it comes to talking about the color of skin, many people won't even discuss it, I even see that here. People really are damaged by secular reasoning. And then sometimes I see secular people more excepting of people with different skin tones or colors than Christians.
 
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There are so many mixed race churches around the Cleveland area and suburbs, it's not funny! Yo, every time I see my favorite pastor we hug. Pastor Riccardo is black. :D He is a dear sweet man and has a lovely family!

It's a shame people can't learn to get along just because of race, It's not about skin color, it's about the character of a person.

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Think having any church with only members of a certain skin pigmentation is unbiblical. Then....that is me. God loves us all. Regardless of skin, gender, age, etc. Why can't we?
 
ll i think that when church excludes a person coming from to the church because of color that 's wrong and sinful.
 
mdo757 said:
I think people generally like being with their own kind. I think that is normal and natural.
Is that the way you feel yourself ? God created us to be with who ever we want to be with, and in Biblical times that is just how it was. People did not care about your color, this color stuff is modern day garbage. Acts 17:26 God made all nations of men with one blood. Did it say that He made all nations of men, with 1 or 2 or 3 bloods. He created us to mix, some men are the ones who have a problem with it, but God does not. And unless some people don't know any better, they are a pure evil people. Do you think God will separate people in His Kingdom, who were dark and light on earth ? He created you to have the freedom to be with any color of person that you want to be with. We all go to the grave and rot, nobody is over the other. I said this before, when the human Genome was cracked, they could not tell who was who, unless you were standing in front of them, and they could see your skin color, now how is that for ya ? There was even a person of color who ruled Rome, Lucius Septimius Severus, because people did not care about your color. http://blackunity.multiply.com/reviews/item/15 There were even 3 black Popes. So I am just tired of all this color stuff, and don't think God is not going to speak to you about it. In Biblical times it was what can you bring to the table not the color of your skin. I still see white males in this city of Philadelphia, who think that they have a right to everything, like jobs ect, and I don't. Because to them I am less than they are, this was taught to them, they were not born this way. If there was a Pope of color today, they would kill him, because of his color. Here are a few who made it. Pope St. Victor - Elected in 189 AD. He was deacon when he became Pope, a rarity then and now. He established a set date for the celebration of Easter yearly. He died a martyr for the faith in 199.

Pope St. Militiades - Reigned as Pope from 311 - 314. He signed the emperor Constantine’s famous Edict of Milan in 313, ending the persecutions, and making Christianity the established religion of the empire. He was considered an excellent Pope, "a son of peace and father of Christians" according to St. Augustine.

Pope St. Gelasius - Reigned from 492 -496. Born in Rome, he was renowned for his holiness, kindness and scholarship. He saved Rome from famine, composed a book of hymns for church use, was renowned for his concern for the poor and clarified church teaching on the Eucharist.
 
Lewis W said:
mdo757 said:
I think people generally like being with their own kind. I think that is normal and natural.
Is that the way you feel yourself ? God created us to be with who ever we want to be with, and in Biblical times that is just how it was.
There has always been a few who want to mix. It's nothing new. People are people. GENERALLY SPEAKING, people of various sorts prefer to be with their own; what ever that may be. :yes
 
mdo757 said:
Lewis W said:
mdo757 said:
I think people generally like being with their own kind. I think that is normal and natural.
Is that the way you feel yourself ? God created us to be with who ever we want to be with, and in Biblical times that is just how it was.
There has always been a few who want to mix. It's nothing new. People are people. GENERALLY SPEAKING, people of various sorts prefer to be with their own; what ever that may be. :yes

Think we all should be a little more careful with the generalizations. Not everyone falls under them. I for one feel comfortable around family more often than not, or close friends. More than anyone else. Strikingly enough some of my closest friends are not of the same ethnicity as me. Think that we generalize too much on one's pigmentation.
 
vivalenca said:
when you think about the events pertaining American history in mid 1960's after the passing of laws regarding civil rights, what positive and negative positions from white churches come to mind?
In a more present situation, what churches do you know of that are successful examples of multi-race congregations?
Thank you for your thoughts!

Truthfully, I didn't know there are any Christian congregations that still think that way at all. As far as I know, they are all mixed. Unless of course, some of a color don't want to go to that church.
 
Here in Indiana, the Klan is still pretty strong in the rule areas. Many black and Asian people have moved away in my area because even though the preachers are welcoming, the community isn't.

I believe both the police cheif and sherif in my town are actually part of the Klann.
 
Its not that its everywhere, but there is a restaurant in a town near me called Kouts, where their is a Klan insignea in full view on the Door.

Then again, Indiana is the birth Place of the Modern Klan.
 
Sorry, I might sound stoopid here but do you mean the KKK when you say Klan? I suppose so but I just wanna make sure.
 
oy_vey_ said:
Sorry, I might sound stoopid here but do you mean the KKK when you say Klan? I suppose so but I just wanna make sure.
Yep, grand dragons and all.
 
Active U.S. Hate Groups in 2008
Ku Klux Klan
186 Hate Groups Found
» Read a list of hate incidents
The Ku Klux Klan, with its long history of violence, is the most infamous — and oldest — of American hate groups. Although black Americans have typically been the Klan's primary target, it also has attacked Jews, immigrants, homosexuals and, until recently, Catholics. Over the years since it was formed in December 1865, the Klan has typically seen itself as a Christian organization, although in modern times Klan groups are motivated by a variety of theological and political ideologies.

Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks — and any whites who would help them — and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. Outlandish titles (like imperial wizard and exalted cyclops), hooded costumes, violent "night rides," and the notion that the group comprised an "invisible empire" conferred a mystique that only added to the Klan's popularity. Lynchings, tar-and-featherings, rapes and other violent attacks on those challenging white supremacy became a hallmark of the Klan.

After a short but violent period, the "first era" Klan disbanded after Jim Crow laws secured the domination of Southern whites. But the Klan enjoyed a huge revival in the 1920s when it opposed (mainly Catholic and Jewish) immigration. By 1925, when its followers staged a huge Washington, D.C., march, the Klan had as many as 4 million members and, in some states, considerable political power. But a series of sex scandals, internal battles over power and newspaper exposés quickly reduced its influence.

The Klan arose a third time during the 1960s to oppose the civil rights movement and to preserve segregation in the face of unfavorable court rulings. The Klan's bombings, murders and other attacks took a great many lives, including, among others, four young girls killed while preparing for Sunday services at the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Ala.

Since the 1970s the Klan has been greatly weakened by internal conflicts, court cases, a seemingly endless series of splits and government infiltration. While some factions have preserved an openly racist and militant approach, others have tried to enter the mainstream, cloaking their racism as mere "civil rights for whites." Today, the Center estimates that there are between 5,000 and 8,000 Klan members, split among dozens of different — and often warring — organizations that use the Klan name.




 
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