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Pat Robertson's comment

Tubalcain said:
Dude named Louis said:
Tubalcain said:
...Certainly by some beliefs Haiti was alread cursed by its extreme poverty. Certainly this is consistent with some calvinist and success gospel belief systems.

I don't quite get the connection between this event and Calvinism being associated with success gospel belief systems. Calvinism as I know it is pretty far from success gospel belief.

That's why I said "some". Have you read Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and the Development of Capitalism? I'm not sure if that's the exact title. It does address the connection between the development of capitalism and Calvinism.

Hi, no I have not read it but I'll look into it to see if it's something of interest to me. But still, tieing capitalism to Calvinism is different than associating it with prosperity theology, no?

Thanks for the reply,
Louis
 
I detest Pat Robertson but what is wrong with what he said, besides, of course, that it is judgemental, unloving, and disgusting.

Didn't God wipe out the inhabitants of the Earth with a flood?

Didn't God burn all the inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorroah with fire?

Seems perfectly in-line with the Old Testament version of Yahweh.
 
Lance_Iguana said:
[quote="Rick W":2gt660tu][quote="Lance_Iguana":2gt660tu] God exectutes Judgement, but Jesus only delivered the message. Sorry but no dice there.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:[/quote:2gt660tu]
John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen


When you add the first few lines, it is clear that Jesus was the messanger and that God Dosen't Judge the True belivers because they have accepted his messanger Christ. :yes[/quote:2gt660tu]
OH MY GOD, LANCE HAS QUOTED SCRIPTURE.
This calls for a celebration . Opps, I celebrated to much.
 
anthony123 said:
I detest Pat Robertson but what is wrong with what he said, besides, of course, that it is judgemental, unloving, and disgusting.

Didn't God wipe out the inhabitants of the Earth with a flood?

Didn't God burn all the inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorroah with fire?

Seems perfectly in-line with the Old Testament version of Yahweh.

Only one problem with this, we're not living under the old covenant (the old testament) we're under the new covenant (the new testament).
 
I don't know that Pat Robertson is or isn't a man of God. I do know that Pat Robertson be he devilish or Godly did in fact tell the truth concerning Haiti. The truth has been out there for a long time about how the Haitians practice of satanism and voodoo. They've never denied it except for when the French enslaved them and banned the practice. The Catholic church threw out paper dragons that were supposed to appear as if they cared but they didn't and eventually Catholicism became incorporated into voodoo. Or was it really the other way around? Anyway the point is that Pat Robertson told the truth. I am pretty sure that even devils do that sometimes. God's judgments are well known. They aren't hard to recognize.
 
TheUnworthyServant said:
anthony123 said:
I detest Pat Robertson but what is wrong with what he said, besides, of course, that it is judgemental, unloving, and disgusting.

Didn't God wipe out the inhabitants of the Earth with a flood?

Didn't God burn all the inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorroah with fire?

Seems perfectly in-line with the Old Testament version of Yahweh.

Only one problem with this, we're not living under the old covenant (the old testament) we're under the new covenant (the new testament).

As you can see USA is in for a rude AWAKENING!
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.[25] Behold, I have told you before.
[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
--Elijah
 
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