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savedbygrace57 said:
elijah:

THINK!
PREFECTED FOREVER
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Yes, Those whom Jesus christ died for are perfected forever before God..heb 10:

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

as well as sanctified forever vs 10

10By the which will we are sanctified, made holy through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
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Christ said the CONDITIONAL REQUIREMENT for both the saved or the lost in John 3:3. And both these PERFECTED FOREVER ones are seen in Acts 5:32 below one way or the other. And surely the Holy Spirit MUST be Given to be approved of God as you suggest!

( :crying Unless you know of another way to be Born Again without the Holy Ghost?? :screwloose )

Acts 5
[32] And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

[33] When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
 
Elijah674 said:
savedbygrace57 said:
elijah:

THINK!
PREFECTED FOREVER
Click to expand...

Yes, Those whom Jesus christ died for are perfected forever before God..heb 10:

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

as well as sanctified forever vs 10

10By the which will we are sanctified, made holy through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Click to expand...

Christ said the CONDITIONAL REQUIREMENT for both the saved or the lost in John 3:3. And both these PERFECTED FOREVER ones are seen in Acts 5:32 below one way or the other. And surely the Holy Spirit MUST be Given to be approved of God as you suggest!

( :crying Unless you know of another way to be Born Again without the Holy Ghost?? :screwloose )

Acts 5
[32] And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

[33] When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
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Those who Jesus christ died for, have been perfected forever..His death secures for them all gospel obedience..
 
Ezekiel 18

24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? 26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
 
XTruth said:
Ezekiel 18

24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? 26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
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Here is another factual documentation for these ones of Rev. 17:1-5 today. We see that these are NO ordinary ex/Christians as one reads Heb. 6:1-6! :crying

[16] For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.

These false ones of Rev. 17:1-5 would do well to think on this documentation before they retire this evening while their fate can still be changed by their own free choice!

--Elijah
 
savedbygrace57 said:
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:



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What if you don't follow? Are you still a sheep?

Do some hear his voice and refuse to follow?

Matt 7
26But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

Note that these also call Jesus "Lord":

Matt 25
44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
 
chester:

What if you don't follow? Are you still a sheep?
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No, but thats impossible if one is a sheep, because if they are a sheep they will follow..

And Jesus has sheep before they follow him according to Jn 10:

16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice [and follow]; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
 
Sheep, goats, wheat + tares or whatever as in Gen. 4:7?? God just leaves it up to us'ins! He asked Cain a question, do the right work.. 'If you will not be accepted?' the free choice was Cain's to make + the goats & tares! This was not an overnight maturing!

The simplicity of it all is with Christ's documentation of 'IF' ye LOVE ME, keep My Commandments! The MOTIVE for Obedience to God/Christ is LOVE. And it is measured for salvation as from its Born Again start to full maturity of being FERVENT in a scale of Hot or 'perfected forever' as 'sickening' lukewarm. Rev. 3:16 & SPEWED OUT. :verysad Yet by free choice!

And who that Loved Christ would bring a fruite sun. sacrifice to Him for His required 7th Day Sabbath?

---Elijah
 
Elijah674 said:
Sheep, goats, wheat + tares or whatever as in Gen. 4:7?? God just leaves it up to us'ins! He asked Cain a question, do the right work.. 'If you will not be accepted?' the free choice was Cain's to make + the goats & tares! This was not an overnight maturing!

The simplicity of it all is with Christ's documentation of 'IF' ye LOVE ME, keep My Commandments! The MOTIVE for Obedience to God/Christ is LOVE. And it is measured for salvation as from its Born Again start to full maturity of being FERVENT in a scale of Hot or 'perfected forever' as 'sickening' lukewarm. Rev. 3:16 & SPEWED OUT. :verysad Yet by free choice!



---Elijah
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Amen! Fight the good fight!!
 
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