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Poisening the Populace - Chemtrails, Medication and Modified Foods
jasoncran
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a challenge then. what was the cause of leprosy then?
hmm if those Godly person didnt eat bad food or scurvy(before processed food).
and also what of this challenge if you say that God gives mj for meds then why does have a carnicinogenic compound
btw my bp has never been above 130/90 or my cholestor over 200.
in fact neither has it been over 150!
time for you to put out . if what you say is true then please put out the cures and then a 'scientific' study that claims them for these;
bi-polar.
cancer
heart attacks
spinal stenosis.
and disc degenaration
jasoncran
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Food in Ancient Greece
The Greek diet consisted of foods that were easily raised in the rocky terrain of Greece’s landscape. Breakfast was eaten just after sunrise and consisted of bread dipped in wine. Lunch was again bread dipped in wine along with some olives, figs, cheese or dried fish.
Supper was the main meal of each day. It was eaten near sunset. It consisted of vegetables, fruit, fish, and possibly honey cakes. Sugar was unknown to ancient Greeks, so natural honey was used as a sweetener.
Fish was the main source of protein in the Greek diet. Beef was very expensive, so it was rarely eaten. Beef and PORK were only available to poor people during religious festivals. It was during the festivals that cows or pigs were sacrificed to the gods, and the meat was cooked and handed out to the public.
Wine was the main drink in ancient Greece. It was watered down; to drink it straight was considered barbaric. Milk was rarely drunk, because again, it was considered barbaric. Milk was used for cheese production. Water was another possible choice as a drink.
The Greeks did not have any eating utensils, so they ate with their hands. Bread was often used to scoop out thick soups. Bread was also used as a napkin to clean hands. After being used as a napkin, the bread was then thrown on the floor for the dogs or slaves to clean up at a later time.
Men often gathered for dinner parties called symposiums. Having guests in the house was a “male-only†affair. Women of the house were not permitted to attend. After giving a wine offering to the gods, the men drank and talked about politics or morals. Often young girls and boys would be employed to entertain guests with music and dance.
so the greek believers that were told what to do from the law must havent eat this pork.
as they werent really greeks then were they?
that verse says that in acts that the foods they shouldnt touch were meats offered to idols, and meats strangled, and blood.
hmm but if the pig wasnt offered or strangled. they could eat it.
but what would the apostles and that council that knew the law know!
The Greek diet consisted of foods that were easily raised in the rocky terrain of Greece’s landscape. Breakfast was eaten just after sunrise and consisted of bread dipped in wine. Lunch was again bread dipped in wine along with some olives, figs, cheese or dried fish.
Supper was the main meal of each day. It was eaten near sunset. It consisted of vegetables, fruit, fish, and possibly honey cakes. Sugar was unknown to ancient Greeks, so natural honey was used as a sweetener.
Fish was the main source of protein in the Greek diet. Beef was very expensive, so it was rarely eaten. Beef and PORK were only available to poor people during religious festivals. It was during the festivals that cows or pigs were sacrificed to the gods, and the meat was cooked and handed out to the public.
Wine was the main drink in ancient Greece. It was watered down; to drink it straight was considered barbaric. Milk was rarely drunk, because again, it was considered barbaric. Milk was used for cheese production. Water was another possible choice as a drink.
The Greeks did not have any eating utensils, so they ate with their hands. Bread was often used to scoop out thick soups. Bread was also used as a napkin to clean hands. After being used as a napkin, the bread was then thrown on the floor for the dogs or slaves to clean up at a later time.
Men often gathered for dinner parties called symposiums. Having guests in the house was a “male-only†affair. Women of the house were not permitted to attend. After giving a wine offering to the gods, the men drank and talked about politics or morals. Often young girls and boys would be employed to entertain guests with music and dance.
so the greek believers that were told what to do from the law must havent eat this pork.
as they werent really greeks then were they?
that verse says that in acts that the foods they shouldnt touch were meats offered to idols, and meats strangled, and blood.
hmm but if the pig wasnt offered or strangled. they could eat it.
but what would the apostles and that council that knew the law know!
jasoncran
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Much has been made of a presumably medical basis for the food prohibitions in Jewish tradition, but there may be other explanations. One recent suggestion is that the taboo against pigs was originally related to their competition with humans for water and grain (scarce commodities in a barren land), in contrast to cattle and sheep which consume relatively little water and graze on forage inedible to man. Since transmissible parasitic diseases and infestations such as TAPEWORM are also found in sheep and cows, singling out trichinosis in pigs would not be wholly logical. However, to discourage the raising of swine so as to conserve water and grain resources for human consumption, a strict religious taboo may have been necessary—considering man's nearly universal agreement on the delectableness of pork. Medical observations may indeed have been at the core of hygienic codes, but the Biblical listing of seemingly unrelated creatures prohibited as food is difficult to associate with purposes entirely hygienic.
i guess that Tapeworm is man made and that somehow that a pre advanced civilazation made it?
for the record a good diet does prevent certian diseases but not ALL. nor is there cures made from diet for all illnesses.
reasonalby some yes. but not all.
i guess that Tapeworm is man made and that somehow that a pre advanced civilazation made it?
for the record a good diet does prevent certian diseases but not ALL. nor is there cures made from diet for all illnesses.
reasonalby some yes. but not all.
jasoncran
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from the fda that is what testing these:
acupuncture to treat depression, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, osteoarthritis, and postoperative dental pain
hypnosis for chronic low back pain and accelerated fracture healing
Ayurvedic herbals for Parkinson's disease. (Ayurvedic medicine is a holistic system based on the belief that HERBALS, massage, and other stress relievers help the body make its own NATURAL drugs.)
biofeedback for diabetes, low back pain, and face and mouth pain caused by jaw disorders. (Biofeedback is the conscious control of biological functions such as those of the heart and blood vessels normally controlled involuntarily.)
electric currents to treat tumors
imagery for asthma and breast cancer. (With imagery, patients are guided to see themselves in a different physical, emotional or spiritual state. For example, patients might be guided to imagine themselves in a state of vibrant health and the disease organisms as weak and destructible.)
i wonder what that will show. it may work for parkinsons or not. we shall see.
acupuncture to treat depression, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, osteoarthritis, and postoperative dental pain
hypnosis for chronic low back pain and accelerated fracture healing
Ayurvedic herbals for Parkinson's disease. (Ayurvedic medicine is a holistic system based on the belief that HERBALS, massage, and other stress relievers help the body make its own NATURAL drugs.)
biofeedback for diabetes, low back pain, and face and mouth pain caused by jaw disorders. (Biofeedback is the conscious control of biological functions such as those of the heart and blood vessels normally controlled involuntarily.)
electric currents to treat tumors
imagery for asthma and breast cancer. (With imagery, patients are guided to see themselves in a different physical, emotional or spiritual state. For example, patients might be guided to imagine themselves in a state of vibrant health and the disease organisms as weak and destructible.)
i wonder what that will show. it may work for parkinsons or not. we shall see.
jasoncran
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Hoffer's claims regarding schizophrenia and his theories of orthomolecular medicine are questioned.[12] In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association reported methodological flaws in Hoffer's work on niacin as a schizophrenia treatment and referred to follow-up studies that did not confirm any benefits of the treatment.[13] Later studies similarly failed to find benefits in the use of megavitamin therapy to treat schizophrenia.[14] The term "orthomolecular medicine" was labeled a misnomer as early as 1973[13] and its practices are currently considered inadequate as a treatment for schizophrenia.[15]
Hoffer predicted in the 1950s that it would take at least forty years for his methods to become accepted. In a 2006 interview, Hoffer stated that while he felt that current mainstream psychiatric care was "terrible", his theories and treatments were starting to become more accepted. "[W]e’re at a transition point. If I live another four or five years, I’ll see it."[2]
that undoes that claim. unable to reproduce his claims for that. sorry, unless you can show me more studies that are from the scientific community. that show otherwise.
sorry i want the studies this time.
Hoffer predicted in the 1950s that it would take at least forty years for his methods to become accepted. In a 2006 interview, Hoffer stated that while he felt that current mainstream psychiatric care was "terrible", his theories and treatments were starting to become more accepted. "[W]e’re at a transition point. If I live another four or five years, I’ll see it."[2]
that undoes that claim. unable to reproduce his claims for that. sorry, unless you can show me more studies that are from the scientific community. that show otherwise.
sorry i want the studies this time.
jasoncran
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again all being at looked here.
one that has actually tested your claims and listen what possibly works.
note: early trials show some promise.sorry niacin isnt one of them!
so that means the big pharma and or fda do look for cures that work whether fruits or veggies and or the pill type or therapy.
Complementary and Natural Treatments - Schizophrenia.com
i am aware that a diet has cured a type of epileptic siezures. and john hopkins reasearched it.
one that has actually tested your claims and listen what possibly works.
note: early trials show some promise.sorry niacin isnt one of them!
so that means the big pharma and or fda do look for cures that work whether fruits or veggies and or the pill type or therapy.
Complementary and Natural Treatments - Schizophrenia.com
i am aware that a diet has cured a type of epileptic siezures. and john hopkins reasearched it.
Bazz1040
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You can do your own homework......I have done mine. God made these things for not only food but for our health as well. But as God said, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." You can chose to trust and rely on man’s way of dealing with illness, or you can trust what God has made to keep us strong and healthy.<O:p</O:p
Bazz1040
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No one like whom? Do you expect the drug company to do that? What do you think it would do to their bottom-line? Even some doctors make a percentage on some of the drugs they prescribe.<O:p</O:p
jasoncran
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then niacin should work for schizophrenia but it doesnt
you may not think that medicine doensnt want to cure these things but they do. they are looking.
of course somehow that guy that shows fruits as the cure must be right. just because men say so doenst make it so.
the bible says nothing about electrons and yet men say they exists. or where does it say that we shouldnt see the results that somehow only happens by faith?
thisnt the toe btw. we can test this and no speculation is needed.
unless you really think that scientific method is that anti-christian.
which if so explain how are we talking after all its only a theory?
jasoncran
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uh no, the fruits and the claimers are paid for let them hire some scientists and and indepently claim that.
and some of those have worked!
unless mr.hoofer is poor and broke and well doesnt know what schizophrenia is! surely he has made some bucks off his niacin cure and can and could submit this.
its not that hard to get a group study going to see the results.
you make enough hire them, they cant cost that much if you make say a billion dollars a yr! or even few million a year.
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Pebbles
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Yes those foods are rich in anti-oxidants which can help reduce DNA damaging Radicals however that alone won't stop cancer especially once you've already got it.
Cancer is the progressive loss of a cell cycle regulation and other aberrant characteristics of a lineage of cells in your body.
Alot of those Foods contain compounds that are utilized by specific enzymes that help repair DNA or remove DNA damaging compounds, However in cancer cells those repair mechanisms and those very enzymes your trying to assist are invariably corrupted and they won't do anything for the condition.
So prevention of certain cancers Maybe you have a point... Fighting err :/
jasoncran
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Treatment of Acute Schizophrenia With Vitamin Therapy - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
done by a grant, meaning that a group wanted to study that and see if it would work and paid for that study.
its as recent as 2005.
done by a grant, meaning that a group wanted to study that and see if it would work and paid for that study.
its as recent as 2005.
Bazz1040
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If God had meant for one fruit, vegetable, nut or grain to be a cure all He would not have created verities.<O:p</O:p
What has medicine cure?
I am not here to force you to believe and obviously you have already made up your mind. I know what I know because I have years of evidence that what I am saying is so, and that's all that matters to me.<O:p</O:p
Man did not make electrons God did and they don't claim that they did, so I don't see the point.<O:p</O:p
Well then, go ahead eat all the junk food you want and when you get sick scientific method will cut you open, and cut where they deed to cut and medicate you (mabe even treat with cancer causing chemotherapy), and if you are lucky you might live and not get cancer ten years later anyway. As for me, I will use what God has created to maintain and improve my health.<O:p</O:p
Bazz1040
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It all depends of the amount......it is far better and easier to get more of the nutrients to the cells if you Juice them rather than eat the fruit (it is easy to drink ten apples then to eat ten apples) which would fill you up before you could even eat half, because of the fiber. Fiber is good but if one is getting enough fiber in their diet then they don't need all that fiber. <O:p</O:p
jasoncran
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so what is the cure for say a broken arm and torn and non functional rotator cuff, and so on.
those arent cured once they happen via veggies.
and who says that i even eat junk food?
i didnt say that i eat rats only that if i had too live or die.
and again if the evidence is there for that then we should see results.
this isnt a miracle we are talking about but a testable thing that should work.
so when you have that cancer and you may and when that cure doenst work then what?
or should i look at the healthest race on the earth the japenses pre ww2 and see what afflicted them.
they didnt have a lot of cancers and so on bet you i could find something.
men die from something we all do.
if i say the sky is black are you gonna take my word or look to see.
im not agianst the diet you suggest just the claim that once you get a cancer those cure it!
i even went out the way to post a test on that claim you made that has been shown false. not one study but several repeated have shown that it didnt work the last one was done by a grant by a mental health hospital and not big pharma.
but if something is contra to what you say or believe it must be of the devil.
not always is the case.
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Lance_Iguana
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Jason, Bazz will twist your words to get his/her wanted results.
He/She has already made it clear that she has made up "its" mind, so there really is no reason to really hammer this in.
Bazz believes "his/her" position and dosen't care what anyone else's is, because he/she dosen't want evidence to the contrary. You are feeding a troll.
He/She has already made it clear that she has made up "its" mind, so there really is no reason to really hammer this in.
Bazz believes "his/her" position and dosen't care what anyone else's is, because he/she dosen't want evidence to the contrary. You are feeding a troll.